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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    Timmons???

    Anyone out there still want to come on the board and continue sounding like an idiot and criticize him?

    Kid is only 24 years old and will be a Pro Bowler soon. He was the best LB on the field yesterday and it wasn't even close.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"
  • frankthetank1
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 2755

    #2
    Re: Timmons???

    timmons played lights out!! not really a suprise though. its a huge luxury to have a guy as flexible as timmons who can also play OLB. i think this game was one of many great games timmons will have this season. he was awesome against the run which has been his weak area.

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    • papillon
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 11340

      #3
      Re: Timmons???

      I would vote him the game ball from yesterday's game. He was the most consistent player on the field for the Steelers.

      Although, in fairness to those criticizing him, it is only one game. If he can produce like that all year, the defense will be very stingy in giving up points.

      Pappy
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      3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
      3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
      4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
      5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
      7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

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      • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 3937

        #4
        Re: Timmons???

        He was very young when he gt here. I have seen big strides every year and that is what you want to see. He was a force against the Falcons. I hope this is a sign of the year he is about to have.

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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27532

          #5
          Re: Timmons???

          Timmon's was a monster yesterday.
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • steelblood
            Hall of Famer
            • May 2008
            • 4166

            #6
            Re: Timmons???

            He was very good. I think his contract expires after 2011. He is beginning to make himself very expensive. It is important that we resign him after we've invested so much (high #1 and development years) in him.
            Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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            • SidSmythe
              Hall of Famer
              • Sep 2008
              • 4708

              #7
              Re: Timmons???

              I will eat crow.

              His mind has caught up w/ his legs!! Wow. I agree...he was relentless

              I'm sorry Mr. Timmons, I am really, really sorry!!
              Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
              Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
              Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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              • Oviedo
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #8
                Re: Timmons???

                Originally posted by steelblood
                He was very good. I think his contract expires after 2011. He is beginning to make himself very expensive. It is important that we resign him after we've invested so much (high #1 and development years) in him.
                The Steelers rarely let players who are high draft choices walk after their first contract if they are performing at a high level. Unless of course they are dopers.

                Signing Woodley and Timmons will be expensive but I think you have to keep both. Odd man out will definitely be Farrior and also could be Harrison, but more likely the dollars will come from Aaron Smith or Brett Kiesel's contracts.
                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                • BradshawsHairdresser
                  Legend
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 7056

                  #9
                  Re: Timmons???

                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  Originally posted by steelblood
                  He was very good. I think his contract expires after 2011. He is beginning to make himself very expensive. It is important that we resign him after we've invested so much (high #1 and development years) in him.
                  The Steelers rarely let players who are high draft choices walk after their first contract if they are performing at a high level. Unless of course they are dopers.

                  Signing Woodley and Timmons will be expensive but I think you have to keep both. Odd man out will definitely be Farrior and also could be Harrison, but more likely the dollars will come from Aaron Smith or Brett Kiesel's contracts.
                  The Steelers did not sign Woodley. He is a free agent following this season. It will be quite difficult to re-sign him now. They might put the franchise tag on him, and keep him around another year...But the way they've done business in the past, if they had intended to keep him around long-term, they would have extended him before the season started. It's probably no accident they drafted two OLB's this year...they're likely hoping one of them will be Woodley's replacement.

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                  • Oviedo
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 23824

                    #10
                    Re: Timmons???

                    Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    Originally posted by steelblood
                    He was very good. I think his contract expires after 2011. He is beginning to make himself very expensive. It is important that we resign him after we've invested so much (high #1 and development years) in him.
                    The Steelers rarely let players who are high draft choices walk after their first contract if they are performing at a high level. Unless of course they are dopers.

                    Signing Woodley and Timmons will be expensive but I think you have to keep both. Odd man out will definitely be Farrior and also could be Harrison, but more likely the dollars will come from Aaron Smith or Brett Kiesel's contracts.
                    The Steelers did not sign Woodley. He is a free agent following this season. It will be quite difficult to re-sign him now. They might put the franchise tag on him, and keep him around another year...But the way they've done business in the past, if they had intended to keep him around long-term, they would have extended him before the season started. It's probably no accident they drafted two OLB's this year...they're likely hoping one of them will be Woodley's replacement.
                    I didn't say they signed Woodley. "Will be" is future tense.

                    Woodley's value would be based on the kind of season he has this year. I think they can still keep both him and Timmons but someone else will have to be sacrificed.

                    Big contracts we may have to shed: Smith, Kiesel, Ward, Farrior or Ike Taylor. Not all but probably at least two or three of them.
                    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                    • AngryAsian
                      Hall of Famer
                      • May 2008
                      • 3010

                      #11
                      Re: Timmons???

                      Originally posted by steelblood
                      He was very good. I think his contract expires after 2011. He is beginning to make himself very expensive. It is important that we resign him after we've invested so much (high #1 and development years) in him.
                      When we signed him to his rookie contract... he was going to be expensive. I'm just glad he hasn't made the pro-bowl in his previous years. People forget his agent is Drew "I'm going to stick it to the owner" Rosenhaus. He'll be expensive to re-sign regardless.

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                      • StarSpangledSteeler
                        Starter
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 560

                        #12
                        Re: Timmons???

                        Originally posted by Oviedo
                        Anyone out there still want to come on the board and continue sounding like an idiot and criticize him?

                        Kid is only 24 years old and will be a Pro Bowler soon. He was the best LB on the field yesterday and it wasn't even close.
                        I believe Oviedo has been a Timmons supporter since day one, and has taken a lot of crap over the years for sticking up for him. I know it's only one game, but I have a feeling the word "VINDICATION" will be coming shortly.

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                        • papillon
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 11340

                          #13
                          Re: Timmons???

                          Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          Originally posted by steelblood
                          He was very good. I think his contract expires after 2011. He is beginning to make himself very expensive. It is important that we resign him after we've invested so much (high #1 and development years) in him.
                          The Steelers rarely let players who are high draft choices walk after their first contract if they are performing at a high level. Unless of course they are dopers.

                          Signing Woodley and Timmons will be expensive but I think you have to keep both. Odd man out will definitely be Farrior and also could be Harrison, but more likely the dollars will come from Aaron Smith or Brett Kiesel's contracts.
                          The Steelers did not sign Woodley. He is a free agent following this season. It will be quite difficult to re-sign him now. They might put the franchise tag on him, and keep him around another year...But the way they've done business in the past, if they had intended to keep him around long-term, they would have extended him before the season started. It's probably no accident they drafted two OLB's this year...they're likely hoping one of them will be Woodley's replacement.
                          They couldn't offer him a deal that was fair to the Steelers or him because of the 30% increase rule. The Steelers would have had to give him an unheard of amount in guaranteed money to pay him according to his performance. Once the CBA is in place and the new rules are established the Steelers will offer him a deal that is commensurate with his performance. If there isn't a lockout next year, Timmons will be signed as well and some vets will either be released or asked to take decreases in salary, IMO.

                          The Steelers simply don't allow their young talent to walk.

                          Pappy
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                          The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                          1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                          3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                          3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                          4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                          5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                          7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                          "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #14
                            Re: Timmons???

                            Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                            Originally posted by Oviedo
                            Originally posted by steelblood
                            He was very good. I think his contract expires after 2011. He is beginning to make himself very expensive. It is important that we resign him after we've invested so much (high #1 and development years) in him.
                            The Steelers rarely let players who are high draft choices walk after their first contract if they are performing at a high level. Unless of course they are dopers.

                            Signing Woodley and Timmons will be expensive but I think you have to keep both. Odd man out will definitely be Farrior and also could be Harrison, but more likely the dollars will come from Aaron Smith or Brett Kiesel's contracts.
                            The Steelers did not sign Woodley. He is a free agent following this season. It will be quite difficult to re-sign him now. They might put the franchise tag on him, and keep him around another year...But the way they've done business in the past, if they had intended to keep him around long-term, they would have extended him before the season started. It's probably no accident they drafted two OLB's this year...they're likely hoping one of them will be Woodley's replacement.
                            Woodley is not signed because of the uncertainty of no CBA and the absurdity of the 30% rule (not because we are looking to replace him). Because of the value of his rookie contract as a mid-2nd round pick, we would need to pay him in the neighborhood of $40 million guaranteed in order to work out a long-term extension with him right now. When there is a new collective bargaining agreement, we won't have such restrictive stipulations. Those rookie LB's were drafted because our only legit depth at OLB was our starting ILB (Andre Frazier and Pat Bailey? Seriously?). OLB is a vital position in the 3-4, so an injection of young depth was needed. That's all that should be read into those particular draft picks at this time.
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • Oviedo
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 23824

                              #15
                              Re: Timmons???

                              Originally posted by StarSpangledSteeler
                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              Anyone out there still want to come on the board and continue sounding like an idiot and criticize him?

                              Kid is only 24 years old and will be a Pro Bowler soon. He was the best LB on the field yesterday and it wasn't even close.
                              I believe Oviedo has been a Timmons supporter since day one, and has taken a lot of crap over the years for sticking up for him. I know it's only one game, but I have a feeling the word "VINDICATION" will be coming shortly.
                              Yea Baby!!!!!!!!!

                              We have drafted two 20 year old college players since Tomlin got here and both were key in yesterday's victory...Timmons and Mendenhall.

                              Just shows that letting our team that has been stocked with talented veterans develop their young players is the right way to go versus falling in love with rookies who are pushed into starting roles on bad teams and using that as a pretext to criticize your front office and coaching staff.
                              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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