Dwyer destined for the Practice Squad or IR

[phillyesq]

Re: Dwyer destined for the Practice Squad or IR

Any thoughts there is some sandbagging going on here and there is a "wink wink" agreement that it was going to take Dwyer and season to convert from the Tech offense and they don't want anyone else to see him in the preseason thereby reducing his desireability when they try to stash him on the practice squad?

I still think if he gets a year to develop he could be a solid back up. Just seems snakebit this preseason.

What is Dwyer's incentive to go for such an agreement? PS players make something like 1/4 of what players on the active rosters get. I'm sure he'd love to be healthy and try to prove to any of the teams in the league that he can get the job done now. Especially with a potential lockout next year, there is no way that Dwyer would want to take part in a "wink wink" agreement.

He gets something like $5200 a week on the PS. I doubt his weekly salary as a 6th round pick is much more than that anyway plus he gets to keep any bonus dollars he got regardless. Being on the PS beats taking the risk of having no job at all.

The NFL minimum is $325 k this year - 4 times what he makes on the practice squad. Making $5200 a week is nice, making roughly $20k a week is much nicer.

What is his incentive to stay enter into a "wink wink" agreement to shoot for a spot on the practice squad and nothing more? If he is healthy, shouldn't he want to go out and play? If the Steelers want to add his to their PS, they can. If he opens some eyes, perhaps he makes this team, perhaps another. But not playing, he is in danger of not even making the Steelers PS.

I'm sorry, but the Dwyer practice squad conspiracy theory makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[phillyesq]

Re: Dwyer destined for the Practice Squad or IR

Any thoughts there is some sandbagging going on here and there is a "wink wink" agreement that it was going to take Dwyer and season to convert from the Tech offense and they don't want anyone else to see him in the preseason thereby reducing his desireability when they try to stash him on the practice squad?

I still think if he gets a year to develop he could be a solid back up. Just seems snakebit this preseason.

What is Dwyer's incentive to go for such an agreement? PS players make something like 1/4 of what players on the active rosters get. I'm sure he'd love to be healthy and try to prove to any of the teams in the league that he can get the job done now. Especially with a potential lockout next year, there is no way that Dwyer would want to take part in a "wink wink" agreement.

If a guy drops to the 6th round and comes to camp out of shape what gives you the impression he wants to prove other teams wrong?

What gives you the impression that a guy would voluntarily fake an injury to eliminate his chances of making any NFL roster and that jeopardizes his chances of even being a practice squad candidate?

[Oviedo]

Re: Dwyer destined for the Practice Squad or IR

Any thoughts there is some sandbagging going on here and there is a "wink wink" agreement that it was going to take Dwyer and season to convert from the Tech offense and they don't want anyone else to see him in the preseason thereby reducing his desireability when they try to stash him on the practice squad?

I still think if he gets a year to develop he could be a solid back up. Just seems snakebit this preseason.

What is Dwyer's incentive to go for such an agreement? PS players make something like 1/4 of what players on the active rosters get. I'm sure he'd love to be healthy and try to prove to any of the teams in the league that he can get the job done now. Especially with a potential lockout next year, there is no way that Dwyer would want to take part in a "wink wink" agreement.

If a guy drops to the 6th round and comes to camp out of shape what gives you the impression he wants to prove other teams wrong?

What gives you the impression that a guy would voluntarily fake an injury to eliminate his chances of making any NFL roster and that jeopardizes his chances of even being a practice squad candidate?

No one is saying he is faking an injury but if injured and he can't perform they may be no desire to rush him back on the part of the organization if they think it may help themselves to keep him.

That is why I said he was "snakebit" because first it was the hamstring and now it is the shoulder. The former could be his fault if he really let his conditioning slip a little after OTAs.

Bottomline is I would really like them to "redshirt" him this season if it doesn't look like he makes the final 53 and keep him in the system and work with him for a full year. If they do that I think they have a keeper in the future.

[papillon]

Re: Dwyer destined for the Practice Squad or IR

Any thoughts there is some sandbagging going on here and there is a "wink wink" agreement that it was going to take Dwyer and season to convert from the Tech offense and they don't want anyone else to see him in the preseason thereby reducing his desireability when they try to stash him on the practice squad?

I still think if he gets a year to develop he could be a solid back up. Just seems snakebit this preseason.

What is Dwyer's incentive to go for such an agreement? PS players make something like 1/4 of what players on the active rosters get. I'm sure he'd love to be healthy and try to prove to any of the teams in the league that he can get the job done now. Especially with a potential lockout next year, there is no way that Dwyer would want to take part in a "wink wink" agreement.

He gets something like $5200 a week on the PS. I doubt his weekly salary as a 6th round pick is much more than that anyway plus he gets to keep any bonus dollars he got regardless. Being on the PS beats taking the risk of having no job at all.

The NFL minimum is $325 k this year - 4 times what he makes on the practice squad. Making $5200 a week is nice, making roughly $20k a week is much nicer.

What is his incentive to stay enter into a "wink wink" agreement to shoot for a spot on the practice squad and nothing more? If he is healthy, shouldn't he want to go out and play? If the Steelers want to add his to their PS, they can. If he opens some eyes, perhaps he makes this team, perhaps another. But not playing, he is in danger of not even making the Steelers PS.

I'm sorry, but the Dwyer practice squad conspiracy theory makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

I think his incentive is that he's been injured and, unless, he can get healthy in the next week and turn some heads in practice and in exhibition games he's not making any roster this year. The worst thing that can happen to a late round pick that needs to prove himself happened to Dwyer, he was injured and didn't participate in practice enough to allow anyone to evaluate what he can and can't do.

He's not making 320K this year sitting in the jacuzzi rehabbing injuries. Taking the 83K plus the signing bonus is a nice year's work and then given the opportunity to work himself into shape for next year's camp.

It seems Dwyer is running out of time due to injury. He's not playing this week, the third pre-season game the starters play into the 3rd quarter and possibly the 4th, so, he certainly won't get action there. The final pre-season game would be his only opportunity, but players that have been playing and are on the bubble will get the lion's share of PT in that game, that wouldn't include him.

The PS and getting into shape for next year is his best bet. Maybe, he can work himself into shape by the 8th or 9th game and then contribute due to other injuries, etc.

I think he has enough incentive to go on the PS and really work hard to get healthy and into football condition even if he never plays a down for the Steelers.

Pappy

[Oviedo]

Re: Dwyer destined for the Practice Squad or IR

Don't forget if there are "injuries" they can also IR him or put him on the PUP and he still makes his full salary. If he goes on PUP he gets I think until week #8 to get healthy and keep working on what he needs to learn.

[MaxAMillion]

Re: Dwyer destined for the Practice Squad or IR

Not real optimistic about our RB situation if Mendy would ever get hurt. I originally thought we might be solid there but it sure doesn't look that way.

Dwyer needs to spend a year on the PS. Hopefully hewon't get grabbed but that would have to be highly unlikely given he has not gotten on the field in pre-season and anyone signing him off our PS has to put him on their active 53.

You shouldn't be optimistic. The coaches/front office should have never come into camp being this shallow at running back. The Steelers should have signed a veteran RB to fill Parker's shoes. I was hoping they would give Larry Johnson a shot. Of course Baby Rooney would not have put up with the scrutiny and criticism associated with bringing in Johnson.

The Steelers should really look to bring in a runningback off the waiver wire once players start getting cut.

[feltdizz]

Re: Dwyer destined for the Practice Squad or IR

Any thoughts there is some sandbagging going on here and there is a "wink wink" agreement that it was going to take Dwyer and season to convert from the Tech offense and they don't want anyone else to see him in the preseason thereby reducing his desireability when they try to stash him on the practice squad?

I still think if he gets a year to develop he could be a solid back up. Just seems snakebit this preseason.

What is Dwyer's incentive to go for such an agreement? PS players make something like 1/4 of what players on the active rosters get. I'm sure he'd love to be healthy and try to prove to any of the teams in the league that he can get the job done now. Especially with a potential lockout next year, there is no way that Dwyer would want to take part in a "wink wink" agreement.

If a guy drops to the 6th round and comes to camp out of shape what gives you the impression he wants to prove other teams wrong?

What gives you the impression that a guy would voluntarily fake an injury to eliminate his chances of making any NFL roster and that jeopardizes his chances of even being a practice squad candidate?

I'm not saying Dwyer dreamed up this diabolical plan all by himself on draft day.

What Ovie presented was a thought that the coaches told Dwyer he is so far behind he isn't going to make the cut due to his pathetic conditioning prior to camp and not seeing the field due to the hammy injury. We are hoping they have told him the PS is his best bet because he fell to the 6th round. If teams wanted him he would have went earlier and he did nothing in the off season to show our coaches he was ready for the next level.

One other thing, if Dwyer REALLY wanted to show what he could do why would he run off the field after a stinger and go straight to the locker room? A guy who wants to make an NFL team would fight through that injury.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Dwyer destined for the Practice Squad or IR

Any thoughts there is some sandbagging going on here and there is a "wink wink" agreement that it was going to take Dwyer and season to convert from the Tech offense and they don't want anyone else to see him in the preseason thereby reducing his desireability when they try to stash him on the practice squad?

I still think if he gets a year to develop he could be a solid back up. Just seems snakebit this preseason.

What is Dwyer's incentive to go for such an agreement? PS players make something like 1/4 of what players on the active rosters get. I'm sure he'd love to be healthy and try to prove to any of the teams in the league that he can get the job done now. Especially with a potential lockout next year, there is no way that Dwyer would want to take part in a "wink wink" agreement.

If a guy drops to the 6th round and comes to camp out of shape what gives you the impression he wants to prove other teams wrong?

What gives you the impression that a guy would voluntarily fake an injury to eliminate his chances of making any NFL roster and that jeopardizes his chances of even being a practice squad candidate?

No one is saying he is faking an injury but if injured and he can't perform they may be no desire to rush him back on the part of the organization if they think it may help themselves to keep him.

That is why I said he was "snakebit" because first it was the hamstring and now it is the shoulder. The former could be his fault if he really let his conditioning slip a little after OTAs.

Bottomline is I would really like them to "redshirt" him this season if it doesn't look like he makes the final 53 and keep him in the system and work with him for a full year. If they do that I think they have a keeper in the future.

we were lucky not to lose Redman off the PS last season, i wonder if the Steelers will take that chance with Dwyer or stash him on the PUP or IR list for a year?