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  • Stewie
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    • Sep 2009
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    Whom do you pick???

    Moore or Redman???
  • Oviedo
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    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    Re: Whom do you pick???

    Moore.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • Stewie
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      • Sep 2009
      • 360

      #3
      Re: Whom do you pick???

      I think it's close. Personally, I would go with the younger guy, Redman. I think he's stronger, has more attitude as a runner, and is much better than Moore picking up the blitz. What remains to be seen is if Redman can get his assignments down and run smart (low with patience). I think he can. Ergo, my choice. Moore may be slightly faster, but he didn't run away from anybody last year.

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      • frankthetank1
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 2755

        #4
        Re: Whom do you pick???

        Originally posted by Stewie
        I think it's close. Personally, I would go with the younger guy, Redman. I think he's stronger, has more attitude as a runner, and is much better than Moore picking up the blitz. What remains to be seen is if Redman can get his assignments down and run smart (low with patience). I think he can. Ergo, my choice. Moore may be slightly faster, but he didn't run away from anybody last year.
        is he better at picking up the blitz? i havent seen a whole lot of redman to make that assesment. im not sure how good of a recieving back redman is but moore is the best on the team in that category. i would go with moore who can also return punts if need be. he has very high value at a low price tag

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        • Oviedo
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          • May 2008
          • 23824

          #5
          Re: Whom do you pick???

          Originally posted by Stewie
          I think it's close. Personally, I would go with the younger guy, Redman. I think he's stronger, has more attitude as a runner, and is much better than Moore picking up the blitz. What remains to be seen is if Redman can get his assignments down and run smart (low with patience). I think he can. Ergo, my choice. Moore may be slightly faster, but he didn't run away from anybody last year.
          Given that Redman has never played in a real NFL game not sure how anyone knows he is better at anything. Moore is outstanding at blitz pick-up which is why he has been a go to third down back most of his career.

          Not sure that Redman would even dress on game days if he made the Fianl 53. We know that Moore would.
          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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          • stlrz d
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            • May 2008
            • 9244

            #6
            Re: Whom do you pick???

            Originally posted by Oviedo
            Originally posted by Stewie
            I think it's close. Personally, I would go with the younger guy, Redman. I think he's stronger, has more attitude as a runner, and is much better than Moore picking up the blitz. What remains to be seen is if Redman can get his assignments down and run smart (low with patience). I think he can. Ergo, my choice. Moore may be slightly faster, but he didn't run away from anybody last year.
            Given that Redman has never played in a real NFL game not sure how anyone knows he is better at anything. Moore is outstanding at blitz pick-up which is why he has been a go to third down back most of his career.

            Not sure that Redman would even dress on game days if he made the Fianl 53. We know that Moore would.
            Which is why I take Moore as well. If Eye Sack gets a chance to do it with the first team in a pre season game and does it well...then we'll have something to go on...and even debate. But at this point it's Moore.

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            • Stewie
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              • Sep 2009
              • 360

              #7
              Re: Whom do you pick???

              Originally posted by frankthetank1
              Originally posted by Stewie
              I think it's close. Personally, I would go with the younger guy, Redman. I think he's stronger, has more attitude as a runner, and is much better than Moore picking up the blitz. What remains to be seen is if Redman can get his assignments down and run smart (low with patience). I think he can. Ergo, my choice. Moore may be slightly faster, but he didn't run away from anybody last year.
              is he better at picking up the blitz? i havent seen a whole lot of redman to make that assesment. im not sure how good of a recieving back redman is but moore is the best on the team in that category. i would go with moore who can also return punts if need be. he has very high value at a low price tag
              Redman was commended last year by Tomlin for his blocking, which he did consistently well during that camp, He's already made outstanding blocks in this camp. I recall Moore getting run over by blitzers a couple of times last year. I don't know that Moore is the best on the team in receiving out of the backfield. Last year, FWP, couldn't catch a cold, and Mendy was just average. Moore was the best last year, but Redman can catch also, and is much more likely to get significant YAC. If you want to talk about price, Redman wins that also. The punt returning that Moore did last year was more punt catching than anything else. He was used when apparently they didn't want to risk a fumble by the smaller Logan, when the team was backed up. Any set of hands can do that, but how about making a play? Redman's problem last year was his small college background. He didn't have the conditioning or football savvy that he needed. He's now conditioned and knows the playbook...and he's got a 'tude. In Moore's favor, he was brought here from MN by Tomlin. It's close.

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              • stlrz d
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                • May 2008
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                #8
                Re: Whom do you pick???

                You bought a Redman jersey, didn't you?

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                • Stewie
                  Backup
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 360

                  #9
                  Re: Whom do you pick???

                  Originally posted by stlrz d
                  You bought a Redman jersey, didn't you?
                  No jersey. I think Redmand can play, and we cannot protect him on the PS. I would hate to see him run against us. He showed what he could do against the first team Steelers defense repeatedly last year without being in the best football shape. I recognize that Moore is a crafty veteran, who made not a few clutch catches to move the chains. But I cannot turn a blind eye to the fact that he averaged 3.4 yds. per carry, with 0 TDS, and a long run of 10 yards; and 7.8 yds per catch with a long gain of 19 yards and 2TDs. Pedestrian, IMHO, and I think that we need playmakers. I don't believe, based on what Redman did against the Steelers first team defense, that Redman, given the chances that Moore had, would have had a long rush of 10 yards and a long reception of 19 yards. Contructive 'tude is everything. It is the fertilizer of big plays.

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                  • Stewie
                    Backup
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 360

                    #10
                    Re: Whom do you pick???

                    BTW, look at the decline in Moore's stats.

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                    • frankthetank1
                      Hall of Famer
                      • May 2008
                      • 2755

                      #11
                      Re: Whom do you pick???

                      Originally posted by Stewie
                      Originally posted by frankthetank1
                      Originally posted by Stewie
                      I think it's close. Personally, I would go with the younger guy, Redman. I think he's stronger, has more attitude as a runner, and is much better than Moore picking up the blitz. What remains to be seen is if Redman can get his assignments down and run smart (low with patience). I think he can. Ergo, my choice. Moore may be slightly faster, but he didn't run away from anybody last year.
                      is he better at picking up the blitz? i havent seen a whole lot of redman to make that assesment. im not sure how good of a recieving back redman is but moore is the best on the team in that category. i would go with moore who can also return punts if need be. he has very high value at a low price tag
                      Redman was commended last year by Tomlin for his blocking, which he did consistently well during that camp, He's already made outstanding blocks in this camp. I recall Moore getting run over by blitzers a couple of times last year. I don't know that Moore is the best on the team in receiving out of the backfield. Last year, FWP, couldn't catch a cold, and Mendy was just average. Moore was the best last year, but Redman can catch also, and is much more likely to get significant YAC. If you want to talk about price, Redman wins that also. The punt returning that Moore did last year was more punt catching than anything else. He was used when apparently they didn't want to risk a fumble by the smaller Logan, when the team was backed up. Any set of hands can do that, but how about making a play? Redman's problem last year was his small college background. He didn't have the conditioning or football savvy that he needed. He's now conditioned and knows the playbook...and he's got a 'tude. In Moore's favor, he was brought here from MN by Tomlin. It's close.
                      well the big difference between redman and moore is redman has shown potential but it has been against back up scrubs in preseason games. moore has played in the nfl for a while now. when redman shows he can produce against nfl starters then it will be close who the better rb is. i know moore was in for return duties pretty much just to catch the ball but that is worth a lot. not all guys with good hands can do that. willie reid had pretty good hands but he couldnt hold onto punts and even holmes had some fumbles returning punts. moore reminds me a lot of kevin faulk. both are very underrated but both do all the little things well and are very versitile

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                      • Shawn
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                        • Mar 2008
                        • 15131

                        #12
                        Re: Whom do you pick???

                        If it's Moore of last season vs Redman...I go with the youth and potential.

                        If it's Moore of a couple seasons ago...clearly Moore.
                        Trolls are people too.

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                        • cruzer8
                          Starter
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 977

                          #13
                          Re: Whom do you pick???

                          Moore.

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                          • feltdizz
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                            • May 2008
                            • 27531

                            #14
                            Re: Whom do you pick???

                            Moore is expendable IMO. He isn't a 3rd down back anymore because Mend has taken over that position. He will probably make the team because of experience but I see him as the odd man out.

                            The FO would love to see Redman make this team and contribute in short yardage. It will be interesting to watch how it plays out.

                            I wasw impressed Redman was the only one able to hold his ground against Gibson. That says a lot because our backs were getting run over in blitz pick up.
                            Steelers 27
                            Rats 16

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                            • Stewie
                              Backup
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 360

                              #15
                              Re: Whom do you pick???

                              Originally posted by frankthetank1
                              Originally posted by Stewie
                              Originally posted by frankthetank1
                              Originally posted by Stewie
                              I think it's close. Personally, I would go with the younger guy, Redman. I think he's stronger, has more attitude as a runner, and is much better than Moore picking up the blitz. What remains to be seen is if Redman can get his assignments down and run smart (low with patience). I think he can. Ergo, my choice. Moore may be slightly faster, but he didn't run away from anybody last year.
                              is he better at picking up the blitz? i havent seen a whole lot of redman to make that assesment. im not sure how good of a recieving back redman is but moore is the best on the team in that category. i would go with moore who can also return punts if need be. he has very high value at a low price tag
                              Redman was commended last year by Tomlin for his blocking, which he did consistently well during that camp, He's already made outstanding blocks in this camp. I recall Moore getting run over by blitzers a couple of times last year. I don't know that Moore is the best on the team in receiving out of the backfield. Last year, FWP, couldn't catch a cold, and Mendy was just average. Moore was the best last year, but Redman can catch also, and is much more likely to get significant YAC. If you want to talk about price, Redman wins that also. The punt returning that Moore did last year was more punt catching than anything else. He was used when apparently they didn't want to risk a fumble by the smaller Logan, when the team was backed up. Any set of hands can do that, but how about making a play? Redman's problem last year was his small college background. He didn't have the conditioning or football savvy that he needed. He's now conditioned and knows the playbook...and he's got a 'tude. In Moore's favor, he was brought here from MN by Tomlin. It's close.
                              well the big difference between redman and moore is redman has shown potential but it has been against back up scrubs in preseason games. moore has played in the nfl for a while now. when redman shows he can produce against nfl starters then it will be close who the better rb is. i know moore was in for return duties pretty much just to catch the ball but that is worth a lot. not all guys with good hands can do that. willie reid had pretty good hands but he couldnt hold onto punts and even holmes had some fumbles returning punts. moore reminds me a lot of kevin faulk. both are very underrated but both do all the little things well and are very versitile
                              I think that it's accurate to say that Redman has only played "against back up scrubs", if and only if, you consider our first team defense as "back up scrubs."

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