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  • Joel Buchsbaum
    Legend
    • Jan 2021
    • 7744

    Camp is here.

    This is our most important camp for the offense in years

    We added two new key players ( Rodgers , DK ) and have many young players on the OL starting. And RB and WR have new players with limited or no game experience too ( Wilson, and Johnson )


    QB:

    Rogders will start , but who will back him up and start if/when he goes down? I really like what Howard did in his last four college playoff games! And Ben has apparently taken him under his wing. Not that I wish injury to any player BUT We know we have a good back up and below average starter in Rudoplh. But Howard is the question. He is very experienced and NFL ready. The Arm, size, leadership, and mobility( a semi mobile QB who can run and buy second chase in the pocket ) are there. He appears to be bright.

    The snap count with number #1 unit offense in camp should be 60 % Rodgers, 30% Howard and 10% Ruldolph. Basically I want Howard to start if Rodgers is out, not Rudoplh. But is he ready for that?


    RB: Working in Johnson for 8-12 plays a game where he touches the ball should be tha main goal. Johnson should get 30% on the snaps in camp. Warren is a good player but I have reservations about him being a workhorse type back. He should get 30% of the snaps in camp. I want to see what DJ Jones can offer at FB. I know he can catch, but how good of a locker is he? Dude, it is built like a house with big hands, and thickness in the body


    WR: A good coach is a need here! Wilson is ready to rock. The Steelers should start him at one spot, and work on him in sub packages. I am high on Wilson and hope he will deliver. We know what Austin III can do and a mediocre Woods can do if Wilson does not seize the opportunity as the starter. Obviously DM Metcalf is the star and we should build around what he does well, which is a lot. The 5th or 6th WR should go to a kick off return man. Miller should make the team as a package chin mover type.


    TE: We are deep here. 'Muth is a solid player. A decent receiver but needs to work on his blocking. Smith is a deluxe receiver, but short on speed. Washington is a house of a man, and IMO the best blocker of the bunch...if he can only stay focused! The Steelers have the makings of a very good two man set, with the pass or the run. I see it. Heyward is your jack of a trades player, but I don't see a roster spot for him.


    OL: A good coach is needed here. At LT it's Jones. He is in shape, dropped 20 pounds and un-injured. I am hoping the switch is natural to him. I would give him up to 2 preseason games before the Steelers come up with a plan B. RT goes to Fautanu and he is essentially a rookie . Patience is needed with him. Farizer is a rock at center, and one of the league's best. I am high on McCormick at RG,. He came from a small school and should be much better with his assignment this year. He has excellent tools. Seumalo is a solid veteran. The depth is good at the interior but at Tackle the hope is Warren or Cook can play. These two are #4 tackles on most teams, but one of them will be #3 on the Steelers.


    Coaching: We have some good pieces, and some new players. Smith better give Rodgers a lot of leeway to make his own calls, and the postinal coaches have a lot of teaching ahead of them. Obviously, Tomlin will have a lot of input, but his track record on offense stinks over the past six years. I hope the Defense and Special teams keep him busy. I used the word hope a lot. As my coach used to say when I played way back when, Hope is not a strategy. Yet that is what we've got in many spots of the offense.
    Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 07-24-2025, 05:26 AM.
    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***
  • Iron City Inc.
    Hall of Famer
    • Jun 2013
    • 3237

    #2
    OT sees 2 starters that were not starting a year ago. And our former #1 who missed all of last year is getting tossed in and it's sink or swim cause the depth at T is so thin we basically have no depth there.
    Qb is going to be run completely by AR. He' wouldn't be here if he was going to get to the los without the ability to change the play.
    Lastly RB reps for warren will be real light. I would be shocked if he plays in the pre-season. He'll get very few reps in camp. We all know what he can do at this point. Rookies Johnson and Jones will get long looks. I would think if they can pick up blitz pressure and contribute a bit on ST's they will have a good chance to grab playing time. Johnson imho was a nice value pick in the 3rd. He fits our zone scheme perfectly. If he can pass block , not put the ball on the ground and show decent hands he'll play and play a lot. Not a shock if he is our #1 back very early on,
    TE should still be Muth as #1 but Smith will be in on a lot of 12 personnel sets. Toss is Washington who cut down from 300lbs to 270 and change may allow him to be more than a one dimensional player. Some nice upside there. Heyward may be 53. He could also be a PS player now. We'll see.

    I'll see next week as I'll be in for a few days and have some lunches scheduled with some of my contacts. Try and get some info to pass along and see how some of the so called local experts evaluate the roster n coaching staff.
    Camp days are always good.

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    • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 10281

      #3
      Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
      OT sees 2 starters that were not starting a year ago. And our former #1 who missed all of last year is getting tossed in and it's sink or swim cause the depth at T is so thin we basically have no depth there.
      Qb is going to be run completely by AR. He' wouldn't be here if he was going to get to the los without the ability to change the play.
      Lastly RB reps for warren will be real light. I would be shocked if he plays in the pre-season. He'll get very few reps in camp. We all know what he can do at this point. Rookies Johnson and Jones will get long looks. I would think if they can pick up blitz pressure and contribute a bit on ST's they will have a good chance to grab playing time. Johnson imho was a nice value pick in the 3rd. He fits our zone scheme perfectly. If he can pass block , not put the ball on the ground and show decent hands he'll play and play a lot. Not a shock if he is our #1 back very early on,
      TE should still be Muth as #1 but Smith will be in on a lot of 12 personnel sets. Toss is Washington who cut down from 300lbs to 270 and change may allow him to be more than a one dimensional player. Some nice upside there. Heyward may be 53. He could also be a PS player now. We'll see.

      I'll see next week as I'll be in for a few days and have some lunches scheduled with some of my contacts. Try and get some info to pass along and see how some of the so called local experts evaluate the roster n coaching staff.
      Camp days are always good.
      Thanks IC. Always love your camp work.
      http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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      • Joel Buchsbaum
        Legend
        • Jan 2021
        • 7744

        #4
        Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
        Rookies Johnson and Jones will get long looks. I would think if they can pick up blitz pressure and contribute a bit on ST's they will have a good chance to grab playing time. Johnson imho was a nice value pick in the 3rd. He fits our zone scheme perfectly. If he can pass block , not put the ball on the ground and show decent hands he'll play and play a lot. Not a shock if he is our #1 back very early on.

        Well based on his college of zero fumblers last year he should be able to take care of the football. He's built for contact. Somewhat limited as a receiving back, he is mostly a short RB route guy ( scenes, loops ,and swings ) although his hands are fine for catching the football.

        I absolutely love the Steeler rookie class. Those who watch fellow rookie Howard live will be able to tell what type of arm he has! Tell us please.


        Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

        Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

        *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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        • Iron City Inc.
          Hall of Famer
          • Jun 2013
          • 3237

          #5
          Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum


          Well based on his college of zero fumblers last year he should be able to take care of the football. He's built for contact. Somewhat limited as a receiving back, he is mostly a short RB route guy ( scenes, loops ,and swings ) although his hands are fine for catching the football.

          I absolutely love the Steeler rookie class. Those who watch fellow rookie Howard live will be able to tell what type of arm he has! Tell us please.

          Having 4qb's in camp makes reps for #3 n #4 real low. Now AR really needs very few reps but I still believe MR gets a bunch n then the crumbs to the rest. Will keep a close eye on Howard. I'm more concerned with his ability to process what he sees and how quick he gets through progressions. Even good college qb's need time to trust their eyes. I'll write what I see at camp. Hope he gets enough work in. Still not sure how he was still around in the 6th round.

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          • Joel Buchsbaum
            Legend
            • Jan 2021
            • 7744

            #6
            Originally posted by Iron City Inc.

            Having 4qb's in camp makes reps for #3 n #4 real low. Now AR really needs very few reps but I still believe MR gets a bunch n then the crumbs to the rest. Will keep a close eye on Howard. I'm more concerned with his ability to process what he sees and how quick he gets through progressions. Even good college qb's need time to trust their eyes. I'll write what I see at camp. Hope he gets enough work in. Still not sure how he was still around in the 6th round.

            While all rookies must adjust to see speed of the NFL, Howard is very college experienced. He is near NFL ready, and has played against the speed of Ohio State's defense.

            If I were coaching him, I'd tell him to speed up the velocity of his pases on the outs! A lazy out pass can turn into a pick six. Don't worry about throwing a perfect pass, these are pro receivers.

            Tomlin should let Howard play with the #1's a bit.
            Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

            Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

            *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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            • Joel Buchsbaum
              Legend
              • Jan 2021
              • 7744

              #7
              It is very,very early in camp ,but judging on the report at Steeler Depot, , Rodgers struggled badly on day #1.
              Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

              Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

              *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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              • Iron City Inc.
                Hall of Famer
                • Jun 2013
                • 3237

                #8
                Don't put much emphasis on results at camp until the pads go on. Even then you can't get to high or low on guys until they have gotten enough reps in.

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                • Joel Buchsbaum
                  Legend
                  • Jan 2021
                  • 7744

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
                  Don't put much emphasis on results at camp until the pads go on. Even then you can't get to high or low on guys until they have gotten enough reps in.
                  Give us an in person report on the Offense please.



                  I am inserted in the following players on Offense.

                  QB - Rodgers and Howard.

                  WR: Wilson.

                  RB: Johnson

                  OL: Anyone who plays Tackle.

                  Thanks in advance.

                  Yourself and Korza bring a lot of value to this board during camp.
                  Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                  Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                  *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                  • WindyCitySteel
                    Legend
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 15684

                    #10
                    Interesting not on the Terrible Podcast — Leal is playing exclusively at edge now. I wonder if they looking to move on from Herbig or Highsmith to get a WR. They’re deep there.

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                    • Buzz
                      Legend
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 8379

                      #11
                      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                      Interesting not on the Terrible Podcast — Leal is playing exclusively at edge now. I wonder if they looking to move on from Herbig or Highsmith to get a WR. They’re deep there.
                      I hope they're not looking at Leal as an acceptable replacement for either Herbig or Highsmith
                      If he doesn't show significant improvement, he shouldn't make it past the preseason

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                      • NorthCoast
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                        • Sep 2008
                        • 26636

                        #12
                        Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                        Interesting not on the Terrible Podcast — Leal is playing exclusively at edge now. I wonder if they looking to move on from Herbig or Highsmith to get a WR. They’re deep there.
                        Sigh... drafted a tweener and still looking for a spot for him after 3 years....

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