Minefield of Starting QBs

[NorthCoast]

The number of starting QBs in the last five years shows the importance of having depth at the position. There is only one team in the entire league lucky enough to have only started one QB in the last five years (Josh Allen).

Chart shows two groups for each team over the last five seasons; 1) # of QBs with at least one start in a season, and 2) # of QBs with at least 3 starts in a season.

The team average for # of QBs starting at least 3 games in a season = 4. Some teams have tried the Madden method of plugging in multiple QBs or have been unlucky with injuries (SF). A little surprising that teams you thought were stable at QB actually had quite a bit of churn.

Unfortunately for the Steelers, they fall into the second highest churn group. We were spoiled by Roethlisberger's dominance and are now seeing what it is like without a clear franchise QB.

(note: in cases where a team only as one data pt it's because they had the same # of QBs in both categories. For example, DET with 3 QBs with at least 1 or 3 starts)


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[NorthCoast]

Welp, bump the Steelers up to the highest churn group of QBs, joining WAS, IND, and CAR:

[Northern_Blitz]

Welp, bump the Steelers up to the highest churn group of QBs, joining WAS, IND, and CAR:

He talks about this on the podcast a lot too.

The only person on this list that I wanted to have a 2nd year was Fields. And that's mostly because I don't think there was a better option for us this year. Same reason that I think signing Rodgers was OK. No better options atm.

[NorthCoast]

He talks about this on the podcast a lot too.

The only person on this list that I wanted to have a 2nd year was Fields. And that's mostly because I don't think there was a better option for us this year. Same reason that I think signing Rodgers was OK. No better options atm.

Food for thought:

Rodgers last 3 seasons of playing: 91 TDs
Steelers last 3 seasons, all QBs combined: 36 TDs

[WindyCitySteel]

Food for thought:

Rodgers last 3 seasons of playing: 91 TDs
Steelers last 3 seasons, all QBs combined: 36 TDs

Part of that is the offense. Also, look at ARod’s last two full seasons — big drop in AY/A, big rise in INT. He’s throwing shorter yet throwing more INTs.

[Northern_Blitz]

Part of that is the offense. Also, look at ARod’s last two full seasons — big drop in AY/A, big rise in INT. He’s throwing shorter yet throwing more INTs.

It's certainly unsurprising that he's declined from his MVP years.

Something that's at least a little positive on this front: On the Terrible Podcast yesterday, they said he had something like the 4th lowest turnover worthy play rate in the league (I think it was rate...could have just been total number?). I didn't watch the Jets much last season. But if that's true, it sounds like he did have some bad luck last year.

Apparently JB in CIN was similar re: argument for bad luck.

Although I could imagine a case where some guys turnover worthy plays are more turnover worthy than others. So maybe the rate / number of turnover worthy plays was low, but the actual plays were just brutal relative to the rest of the league?

[NorthCoast]

It's certainly unsurprising that he's declined from his MVP years.

Something that's at least a little positive on this front: On the Terrible Podcast yesterday, they said he had something like the 4th lowest turnover worthy play rate in the league (I think it was rate...could have just been total number?). I didn't watch the Jets much last season. But if that's true, it sounds like he did have some bad luck last year.

Apparently JB in CIN was similar re: argument for bad luck.

Although I could imagine a case where some guys turnover worthy plays are more turnover worthy than others. So maybe the rate / number of turnover worthy plays was low, but the actual plays were just brutal relative to the rest of the league?

Over half his INTs against just 3 teams, MIN, BUF, PIT.

But here's a positive, 9 of his TDs came on middle of the field throws. In fact Rodgers threw more to the middle than Steelers QBs combined in last 2 seasons.

[Steeldude]

Welp, bump the Steelers up to the highest churn group of QBs, joining WAS, IND, and CAR:

It will be that in 2026 and 2027

[NorthCoast]

Part of that is the offense. Also, look at ARod’s last two full seasons — big drop in AY/A, big rise in INT. He’s throwing shorter yet throwing more INTs.

Most aged QBs throw short. Brady's AY/A in his last season was one of his lowest. And Rodgers was throwing a lot to the middle of the field. Three of Rodgers' 11 INTs came against MIN, a team that knows him well. Another 3 came against BUF, a good defense.
Also interesting that the Jets lost 6 out of 7 games where Rodgers threw at least one INT. In other words, they weren't able to overcome their mistakes, or in some cases they were playing catchup and taking more risks in the passing game.

I see Rodgers' a lot like Flacco at this point. Plenty of short dumps to TEs and backs, quick outs to WRs, sprinkled with occasional deep balls. What will be most interesting is how he meshes with very young WR corp. Rodgers demands precise route running and timing. Otherwise, INTs happen. Question is how will it impact his game if he can't trust his WRs?

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[Dog chasing Cat]

The number of starting QBs in the last five years shows the importance of having depth at the position. There is only one team in the entire league lucky enough to have only started one QB in the last five years (Josh Allen).

Chart shows two groups for each team over the last five seasons; 1) # of QBs with at least one start in a season, and 2) # of QBs with at least 3 starts in a season.

The team average for # of QBs starting at least 3 games in a season = 4. Some teams have tried the Madden method of plugging in multiple QBs or have been unlucky with injuries (SF). A little surprising that teams you thought were stable at QB actually had quite a bit of churn.

Unfortunately for the Steelers, they fall into the second highest churn group. We were spoiled by Roethlisberger's dominance and are now seeing what it is like without a clear franchise QB.

(note: in cases where a team only as one data pt it's because they had the same # of QBs in both categories. For example, DET with 3 QBs with at least 1 or 3 starts)


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Next year, if the comps hold true, we should have 12 draft picks. What do you propose we do to finally get a legit franchise QB?

[Northern_Blitz]

Next year, if the comps hold true, we should have 12 draft picks. What do you propose we do to finally get a legit franchise QB?

Have to try to draft a guy. Which likely means trading up.

We won't be bad enough to get the top couple guys at least.

Have to get lucky. Like we did with Ben.

[NorthCoast]

Have to try to draft a guy. Which likely means trading up.

We won't be bad enough to get the top couple guys at least.

Have to get lucky. Like we did with Ben.

I'm guessing they pick low 20s again meaning without a trade they'll get the 4th or 5th best QB.

[Chucktownsteeler]

I think they are looking at Allar. Just a hunch.

[Northern_Blitz]

I'm guessing they pick low 20s again meaning without a trade they'll get the 4th or 5th best QB.

What we need is a class where there are a bunch of good QBs who aren't sure-fire 1st overall guys.

And a lot of other very good talent.

And probably a team or two that pulls a Browns and picks a TE over a potentially generational QB talent.

Always a long shot. Maybe we can trade up to somewhere 10 - 13. So I'd agree somewhere between the 3rd - 5th guy.