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  • Joel Buchsbaum
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    • Jan 2021
    • 7744

    2025 Annual Steelers draft review!


    Enclosed in my annual draft review. I will go over each player picked, say who I would have selected, and grade the pick.. There are no trade downs ( did we get any? ). I only pick who is left on the board. Over the years I have done better than the Steelers I think but I will let you judge that based on the archives.


    Round 1. Harmon DT

    We need DL and Harmon was the best player the fills that need on the board. He is productive , big and has some splash ability. He had 39 QB hurries last year. Not a sack man per say, but he can definitely push the pocket vs. the pass and hard move / contain his gap well vs. the run as he has heavy hands and a 300+ pound frame. We need a starter as our depth at DT is awful and Haron should be able to start as a rookie and upgrade us. He is a plus guy in the 4-3, nickel and dime as adds value in the goal line.

    I would have picked the same guy!

    Grade for value in the round A-



    Round 3. RB Johnson A true power back, but one with good vision and follows his blocks well. He is not fast ( 4.57 40 ) , but had 21 runs of 20+ yards in 2024 despite facing stacked boxes.
    Quick enough to move outside the box on zone blocks. And he has a rare vice like grip on the football. He will upgrade our power running and play action scheme well as he catches it fairly well and plyas smart. Similar to the good Barry Foster in some ways . He also should play a lot as a rookie. He has a round 2 grade in my book. Something of a steal.

    I would have picked the same guy!

    Grade for the round A


    Round 4, DE Sawyer.

    A good pass rusher who made a lot of splash plays in 9 sacks and three forced fumbles. He is smart, fast ( 4.6 40 ) and very old school. Strong hands! High effort and a 2 time team captain.
    A steal at this point of the draft. He can be an OLB for us.

    Who would have I picked? The same guy.

    Grade for value in the Round A


    Round 5. DT/NT Black. A third DL player picked? Yep. Black is a big man but slow and he has a small gas tank. A true zero DT. He is tall. Not sure if he can get low enough. Blocked 7 passes which is very good and a field goal in two seasons at Iowa.

    Who would have I picked? QB McCord

    Value in round C


    Round 6 QB Howard.

    Well he is tall, weighs about 235, fairly mobile and has a very good arm. Not that accurate,he played with OSU talent this year. His stats are very inflated because of a very good WR, very good OL and very good RB's. He had an awful throwing combine in terms of accuracy. But he is a western PA QB who played well in the college playoffs.

    Who I would have taken: S Woler.

    Grade for value in the round A


    Round 7. OLB Bruener. Mark's son should be good on special teams, and add value as a nickle defender. He was productive but small for LB. He preety fast and quick.

    Grade for value in round B

    Who I would have picked CB Black



    Round 7 CB Kent. A small school star with an amazing 47 pass break ups in his career. He has a lot of speed but with just two career interceptions , he has poor catching skills. But he can jump! And he adds value as a punt returner and defensive special teams player. I like this pick. I never heard of him until he was drafted.

    Grade for value in round A

    Who I would have picked OT Brown



    Overall this was a very good draft. I am pleased.


    -JB
    Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 04-27-2025, 08:07 PM.
    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***
  • Chucktownsteeler
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 6849

    #2
    This can’t be Joel.
    Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

    I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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    • Joel Buchsbaum
      Legend
      • Jan 2021
      • 7744

      #3
      Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
      This can’t be Joel.
      This draft oozes Big TEN toughness and character. I still don't get the Black selection. But that was round 5.
      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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      • Iron City Inc.
        Hall of Famer
        • Jun 2013
        • 3237

        #4
        We always have a guy or 2 that we look back on and go man this dude was available and we took someone else.
        For me Bruener though a son of a player and scout likely is a tough cut because he can play special teams but will he ever be a starter for us?
        I hope he's great but he's undersized and likely we could have gotten him as a f/a. I would have drafted Watson the DT from Florida. You want to stuff the run and be more physical on O in short yardage this dude was worth a dice roll on. 6'5 450+ would have been worth a 7th round selection. Big Dan on roids (lol) but to be serious some things you can't teach. Ravens mauled us a year ago. Didn't sit well with me then or now.

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        • Dog chasing Cat
          Backup
          • Feb 2025
          • 118

          #5
          Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum

          This draft oozes Big TEN toughness and character. I still don't get the Black selection. But that was round 5.
          Black could be a lot better with better conditioning and eating habits.

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          • Joel Buchsbaum
            Legend
            • Jan 2021
            • 7744

            #6
            Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
            We always have a guy or 2 that we look back on and go man this dude was available and we took someone else.
            For me Bruener though a son of a player and scout likely is a tough cut because he can play special teams but will he ever be a starter for us?
            I hope he's great but he's undersized and likely we could have gotten him as a f/a. I would have drafted Watson the DT from Florida. You want to stuff the run and be more physical on O in short yardage this dude was worth a dice roll on. 6'5 450+ would have been worth a 7th round selection. Big Dan on roids (lol) but to be serious some things you can't teach. Ravens mauled us a year ago. Didn't sit well with me then or now.


            Bruener continues the nepotism on the Steelers under Tomlin. He can be a good special teams defensive player for us, but by no means does he project as a starter.
            Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

            Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

            *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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            • Captain Lemming
              Legend
              • Jun 2008
              • 16041

              #7
              Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
              We always have a guy or 2 that we look back on and go man this dude was available and we took someone else.
              For me Bruener though a son of a player and scout likely is a tough cut because he can play special teams but will he ever be a starter for us?
              I hope he's great but he's undersized and likely we could have gotten him as a f/a. I would have drafted Watson the DT from Florida. You want to stuff the run and be more physical on O in short yardage this dude was worth a dice roll on. 6'5 450+ would have been worth a 7th round selection. Big Dan on roids (lol) but to be serious some things you can't teach. Ravens mauled us a year ago. Didn't sit well with me then or now.
              While there is no doubt that family ties got Brunet drafted, I don't think he was a bad value. Criticizing a 7th round pick because you doubt he will ever be a starter? There are 32 teams you can say that about.

              As far as Watson is concerned, I would suggest Y Black was drafted for that exact role.
              sigpic



              In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

              TCFCLTC-
              The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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              • Captain Lemming
                Legend
                • Jun 2008
                • 16041

                #8
                Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum

                This draft oozes Big TEN toughness and character. I still don't get the Black selection. But that was round 5.
                I would suggest Black is intended as a situational piece. Short yardage run stuffer. If he works for that purpose is is a 5th well spent. I do like your assessment overall
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                In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                TCFCLTC-
                The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                  • May 2008
                  • 10281

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
                  We always have a guy or 2 that we look back on and go man this dude was available and we took someone else.
                  For me Bruener though a son of a player and scout likely is a tough cut because he can play special teams but will he ever be a starter for us?
                  I hope he's great but he's undersized and likely we could have gotten him as a f/a. I would have drafted Watson the DT from Florida. You want to stuff the run and be more physical on O in short yardage this dude was worth a dice roll on. 6'5 450+ would have been worth a 7th round selection. Big Dan on roids (lol) but to be serious some things you can't teach. Ravens mauled us a year ago. Didn't sit well with me then or now.
                  As far as the nepotism goes, when the Steelers draft someone in the 7th, what's a reasonable expectation? A guy who can start on ST is a good start, the other thing I want is high character "Rudy" type guy. When they bring in a Bruener or Heyward they already know that the guy has grown up being taught to be a professional NFL player by someone who they already value.
                  http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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                  • Buzz
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                    • Dec 2017
                    • 8379

                    #10
                    Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.

                    As far as the nepotism goes, when the Steelers draft someone in the 7th, what's a reasonable expectation? A guy who can start on ST is a good start, the other thing I want is high character "Rudy" type guy. When they bring in a Bruener or Heyward they already know that the guy has grown up being taught to be a professional NFL player by someone who they already value.
                    I had thought that this might be the year when we finally left behind the "all in the family" philosophy, what with the elder Herbig leaving and the younger Heyward likely getting cut... but after drafting Bruener, I find myself wondering what the chances are of Dino Tomlin making the roster? LOL

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                    • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 10281

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Buzz

                      I had thought that this might be the year when we finally left behind the "all in the family" philosophy, what with the elder Herbig leaving and the younger Heyward likely getting cut... but after drafting Bruener, I find myself wondering what the chances are of Dino Tomlin making the roster? LOL
                      You'll have to ask the Bucs: https://www.wtae.com/article/dino-to...-camp/64611308

                      Dino Tomlin, son of Steelers coach, invited to Buccaneers rookie minicamp

                      PITTSBURGH —
                      Dino Tomlin wasn't one of the 257 players drafted this weekend, but the son of Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin will get a chance to prove himself at the NFL level.

                      Pittsburgh's Action Sports reporter Ashley Liotus broke the news that Dino Tomlin will attend Tampa Bay Buccaneers rookie minicamp.

                      Tomlin spent his first two college seasons at Maryland before transferring to Boston College for the last three seasons.

                      His best year was 2023 when he caught 24 passes for 312 yards.

                      The 24-year-old played high school football at Shady Side Academy.

                      http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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                      • Northern_Blitz
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 24373

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Buzz

                        I had thought that this might be the year when we finally left behind the "all in the family" philosophy, what with the elder Herbig leaving and the younger Heyward likely getting cut... but after drafting Bruener, I find myself wondering what the chances are of Dino Tomlin making the roster? LOL
                        Meh...they use late round picks on guys they feel like they have an informational advantage on.

                        I think the idea behind these picks is "we want special teams guys so let's pick guys that have some talent and have the right attitude to play teams".

                        As posted elsewhere, Dino is in Tampa. My guess is that he'll have a very short NFL career.

                        But maybe we hire him as a coach. Like how BB and Reid hired their kids as coaches to work under them. Elder Shanahan did too...but his son is good (at more than video taping other team's practices and maiming children).

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                        • Buzz
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 8379

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Northern_Blitz

                          Meh...they use late round picks on guys they feel like they have an informational advantage on.

                          I think the idea behind these picks is "we want special teams guys so let's pick guys that have some talent and have the right attitude to play teams".

                          As posted elsewhere, Dino is in Tampa. My guess is that he'll have a very short NFL career.

                          But maybe we hire him as a coach. Like how BB and Reid hired their kids as coaches to work under them. Elder Shanahan did too...but his son is good (at more than video taping other team's practices and maiming children).
                          That coach in Atlanta has a son that's good at prank-calling
                          Seriously, I hope we hire based on who's the best candidate more than who has family ties to the team. You do the latter, and I think you are apt to miss getting the best personnel more often than not.

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                          • hawaiiansteel
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                            • May 2008
                            • 35648

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Buzz
                            Seriously, I hope we hire based on who's the best candidate more than who has family ties to the team. You do the latter, and I think you are apt to miss getting the best personnel more often than not.
                            Mark Bruener: "Mr. Rooney, I have done a good job scouting for you and would like to get a raise"

                            Art II: "How about we just draft your son instead?"

                            Mark Bruener: "Okay"

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                            • Buzz
                              Legend
                              • Dec 2017
                              • 8379

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel

                              Mark Bruener: "Mr. Rooney, I have done a good job scouting for you and would like to get a raise"

                              Art II: "How about we just draft your son instead?"

                              Mark Bruener: "Okay"
                              now that's funny

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