LT rapes a 15 year old girl

[Shawn]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

Weren't most people here saying that this is what Ben should do? Go get a prostitute if he wants to have a little fun. The girl was 16 and according to the state he is in that is rape. If it would have been my state it wouldn't. Personally I think its a BS law but that is me. I don't think its right to do what he did, but the whole age/law thing i never agreed with.

it wouldnt be rape in WV? not suprised by that at all. is there any age that is considered rape in WV or can a grown man have sex with any little girl regardless of age? do you have a daughter at all? having a daughter i cant imagine a grown man having sex with a kid. that is disgusting. this is one of the many reasons i will never live any where but the northeast

No need to rip on a place where someone lives. 16 is the age of consent in WV and KY. A day younger than 16 is considered a crime. I have two daughters and find it disturbing mainly because of the age difference. With that said, I worked at a clinic where almost everyone on staff had been married at 16 yo. Girls are seen as women here when they reach the age of 16. We had several who married at 16 and had 15-30 years of marriage under their belt. I suppose us ignorant rednecks just don't get it eh?

i didnt rip on WV. i said im wasnt suprised that it wouldnt be a crime there. how is that making fun? i thought you had to be 18 to get married in every state. how can a junior in high school get married? that is very odd to me sense you are still a minor until you are 18. at 16 girls are not mature enough imo to be considered an adult. can a guy get married at 16 there? if so that makes no sense. you cant drink until you are 21 and you cant serve in the military until you are 18 but you can ruin your life with marriage at 16? that makes no sense

I'm not sure if they had to get parent signatures or what...never researched the law. I just know it's seen differently down here and girls get married and have families very young here. I had 5 staff members all married at 16. The only reason I know the age of consent here is because we had a case...22 yo guy 16 yo girl. The police told me of the law. It's a cultural thing I suppose.

Personally, I don't believe a person is old enough to make a decision about marriage until about 25...brain/personality still forming/changing. I will encourage my girls to get married later rather than sooner. But, who am I to tell others when to get married and how to raise their kids?

[flippy]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

I'm sure this girl didn't make the decision to become a prostitute. Didn't willingly want a pimp. And didn't get started the day she turned 16.

And I'm sure she didn't ask to be beat.

There's pretty much no way to view this other than totally messed up and unacceptable.

[Shawn]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

I'm sure this girl didn't make the decision to become a prostitute. Didn't willingly want a pimp. And didn't get started the day she turned 16.

And I'm sure she didn't ask to be beat.

There's pretty much no way to view this other than totally messed up and unacceptable.

It's a messed up situation. With that said, I don't believe LT beat the girl, made her run away, or forced her into prostitution.

[frankthetank1]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

I'm sure this girl didn't make the decision to become a prostitute. Didn't willingly want a pimp. And didn't get started the day she turned 16.

And I'm sure she didn't ask to be beat.

There's pretty much no way to view this other than totally messed up and unacceptable.

It's a messed up situation. With that said, I don't believe LT beat the girl, made her run away, or forced her into prostitution.

i dont think he beat her up either. he already admitted he paid her 300 bucks for sex though. its very sad after all the drug abuse and losing all his money on drugs and bad investments he does something like this. i guess some people dont learn

[flippy]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

I'm sure this girl didn't make the decision to become a prostitute. Didn't willingly want a pimp. And didn't get started the day she turned 16.

And I'm sure she didn't ask to be beat.

There's pretty much no way to view this other than totally messed up and unacceptable.

It's a messed up situation. With that said, I don't believe LT beat the girl, made her run away, or forced her into prostitution.

No one would be forced into prostitution if there weren't people willing to pay for it.

I have no idea what happened here. Just that it's a sad situation all the way around.

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

"16'll get you 20". (16 years old gets you 20 years in jail).

Repeat that 10,000 times. All the guys I grew up with did at one point or other in their lives. It's not hard to remember after that. And if there's doubt about the girl in front of you, repeat it once more. Just stay away. L.T. FUBAR'd, plain and simple.

[flippy]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

"16'll get you 20". (16 years old gets you 20 years in jail).

Repeat that 10,000 times. All the guys I grew up with did at one point or other in their lives. It's not hard to remember after that. And if there's doubt about the girl in front of you, repeat it once more. Just stay away. L.T. FUBAR'd, plain and simple.

Unlesss you're a mormon.

[SS Laser]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

I don't think he "ordered" up a 16 yo hooker!

[Shawn]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

I don't think he "ordered" up a 16 yo hooker!

Agreed. He wanted sex...was willing to pay for it. Do Johns usually check the prostitutes ID? Listen, I'm not the moral police...if a man wants to pay a consenting adult for sex that should be a legal transaction. When the government legislates morality they overstep their bounds. I have personally never even stepped foot in a strip club. There is something very off putting about paying for anything sexual. But, I know some guys enjoy that sort of thing. Who am I to say they shouldn't engage in those activities? The government certainly shouldn't step in and regulate sex.

With all of that said, LT must realize he lives in a society that doesn't believe the way I do. He knew what he did (if he has admitted it) was illegal. When you do illegal things...bad things can happen to you. He probably had no idea of the girls age...and probably didn't ask. But, he put himself in a bad bad place and he will get some time out of this.

[Shawn]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

I'm sure this girl didn't make the decision to become a prostitute. Didn't willingly want a pimp. And didn't get started the day she turned 16.

And I'm sure she didn't ask to be beat.

There's pretty much no way to view this other than totally messed up and unacceptable.

It's a messed up situation. With that said, I don't believe LT beat the girl, made her run away, or forced her into prostitution.

No one would be forced into prostitution if there weren't people willing to pay for it.

I have no idea what happened here. Just that it's a sad situation all the way around.

That's sort of like not teaching your kids about safe sex because you don't believe they should have intercourse before marriage. It's naive. Prostitution is referred to as the "oldest profession" for a reason. There will always be a market for it.

In the "war against drugs". Do you believe the police should go after the drug addict...because their demand fuels the market? Nah...you go after those who supply it. You go after those who profit from other's addictions. Same here...you go after the guy who forced her into prostitution. Don't punish LT for the pimps crimes. Punish LT only for his own crimes.

[Shawn]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

I'm sure this girl didn't make the decision to become a prostitute. Didn't willingly want a pimp. And didn't get started the day she turned 16.

And I'm sure she didn't ask to be beat.

There's pretty much no way to view this other than totally messed up and unacceptable.

It's a messed up situation. With that said, I don't believe LT beat the girl, made her run away, or forced her into prostitution.

i dont think he beat her up either. he already admitted he paid her 300 bucks for sex though. its very sad after all the drug abuse and losing all his money on drugs and bad investments he does something like this. i guess some people dont learn

I read somewhere that she was beat before having sex with LT by her pimp...allegedly. People had issue that he had sex with a girl that had been freshly beat. I personally can see that point.

I seen a documentary just the other day on LT. He stated, he has always been geared to abuse anything that can alter him...adrenaline, drugs, sex whatever. I have alot of experience dealing with addicts, 12 steps, AA etc. You can tell when it finally clicks for someone. You can see the manifestations of the programs in their eyes, actions and words. Watching that documentary, I turned to my wife and said, "for a guy with 10 years sobriety he looks and sounds really really sick". "I wouldn't be shocked if he is using again". I don't know if he was using, but I suspect he traded addictions.

And your last statement supports why they call this a disease. Who else purposefully self destructs? Who gets burned by a flame, then goes back for more? People who don't have these issues will never understand an addicts mind. It will baffle all logic. They can't understand the compulsions, the obsessions and the self destructive behavior. Even with treatment, the odds are extremely poor. Most addicts die from their disease and I find that very very sad.

[Shawn]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

"16'll get you 20". (16 years old gets you 20 years in jail).

Repeat that 10,000 times. All the guys I grew up with did at one point or other in their lives. It's not hard to remember after that. And if there's doubt about the girl in front of you, repeat it once more. Just stay away. L.T. FUBAR'd, plain and simple.

I think 16 will get you 5 in this case (as I believe that's the max sentence) but I get your point. I don't think anyone can defend LTs actions. He should be punished accordingly. I just don't want him punished more harshly because of the pimps actions or a public moral outcry. He needs to be judged and punished like any joe smoe on the street.

[birtikidis]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

Ben should make a commercial where LT comes in and says
"ben why are you assaulting all these girls"
Ben- "I dont' want to talk about it"
"Ben where did you learn all this bad behavior"
Ben (very tearfully) "I learned it from watching you!"

[Shawn]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

Ben should make a commercial where LT comes in and says
"ben why are you assaulting all these girls"
Ben- "I dont' want to talk about it"
"Ben where did you learn all this bad behavior"
Ben (very tearfully) "I learned it from watching you!"

Nice.

[calmkiller]

Re: LT rapes a 15 year old girl

Reports are that she told him she was 19. I am in no way saying that getting a prostitute is morally right or anything like that. I think if you can't get it for free then you have....other means..... My main grip about the whole thing is the law. 16 is the legal age here. Its a shame when a 19 year old has a 16 year old girl friend and he is a "rapist" because they had consensual sex.(if the state views 17 or 18 as the legal age There is a 4 year law thrown in there somewhere too but I can't remember everything exactly.) But the state says they can't consent. The 19 year old has to file as a sex offender because he made love to his girl friend.

The case in question with LT is Sick because of his age. Its morally wrong and I don't agree with it. I was only stating that this law in question is complete crap. I guess you can look at it differently depending on where you come from. I don't take offense to you disagreeing with WV law. That is your right. But I personally think the law is a crock in many situations.

LT got the shaft in part because he was told she was 19. Its a stupid situation, but hes the one that has to pay because she lied about her age.