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  • Flasteel
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 4004

    #16
    Originally posted by Prowler

    In the article Plumlee said, "But Pittsburgh believes in me as a quarterback, and that’s part of the reason why I am here.” That quote is proof enough that the Steelers said to him that they believe in him as a QB. Therefore it isn't a stretch in the least bit that Plumlee would expect a fair shot at showing his abilities to the team as a QB since they liked him at that position.

    You can spin it any way you want but there is no other way to interpret this quote other then the team never lived up to their end of the promise. This dishonesty continues to be a trait of Coach Tomlin with various players.
    How do you think he generated that 79.9 PFF rating?

    By playing friggin' QB!!

    The coaching staff had him practice and play at the position. He was listed as the 4th string QB. He was not listed as a receiver or tried out at another position, as other teams wanted to do. What part of that obviousness do you not grasp? Did your interpretation of Plumlee's statement have you believe he would be promised more QB snaps than Allen? Do you actually know what the division of labor was in camp or practices? Were you somehow thinking that giving him the opportunity to showcase his kick return capability meant that he was not being given time as a QB?

    This is nothing more than you trying to find something else to bash Tomlin over the head with. It's thin and lazy. Your obsession with it and abject lack of any logic in your thinking is both pathetic and amusing. Go grill up some beaver tail or whatever you do for Canadian Labor Day and give this stuff some rest.
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    • Prowler
      Pro Bowler
      • Apr 2010
      • 1837

      #17
      Originally posted by Flasteel

      How do you think he generated that 79.9 PFF rating?

      By playing friggin' QB!!

      The coaching staff had him practice and play at the position. He was listed as the 4th string QB. He was not listed as a receiver or tried out at another position, as other teams wanted to do. What part of that obviousness do you not grasp? Did your interpretation of Plumlee's statement have you believe he would be promised more QB snaps than Allen? Do you actually know what the division of labor was in camp or practices? Were you somehow thinking that giving him the opportunity to showcase his kick return capability meant that he was not being given time as a QB?

      This is nothing more than you trying to find something else to bash Tomlin over the head with. It's thin and lazy. Your obsession with it and abject lack of any logic in your thinking is both pathetic and amusing. Go grill up some beaver tail or whatever you do for Canadian Labor Day and give this stuff some rest.
      I stand by my statement that it is scummy behavior on Tomlin's part not to play Plumlee after telling him that they believe in him at QB. At the end of the day honesty and integrity matter a great deal in life. Maybe it doesn't matter to you but it matters to me.

      if you're giving reps to Plumlee as a kick returner or at WR then yes that is taking away reps from him at QB. I'm mean after all no player can play two positions at once can they, unless they are named Troy Polamalu.

      I didn't say anything about Plumlee getting more snaps than Allen. Please don't make things up about me. However, it wouldn't have hurt to have Plumlee get the same number of reps as Allen in preseason games. But some of you must think Allen is an all world QB who doesn't need to earn his job or have competition. Outstanding logic there.

      I'll sum it up for you this way since you have claimed to be a sideline reporter in some football telecasts.

      Let's pretend that the Democratic Sports Network has offered you a contract tryout to be a sideline reporter for 3 preseason games because they believe in your abilities to be a sideline reporter. Let's pretend that they didn't use you for the first two games but they finally used you once in the final two minutes of the final game. They used the other reporters 4 times in other games but you only once in the final game. Would you feel like you were treated fairly? I bet you wouldn't.








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      • Flasteel
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 4004

        #18
        Originally posted by Prowler

        I stand by my statement that it is scummy behavior on Tomlin's part not to play Plumlee after telling him that they believe in him at QB. At the end of the day honesty and integrity matter a great deal in life. Maybe it doesn't matter to you but it matters to me.

        if you're giving reps to Plumlee as a kick returner or at WR then yes that is taking away reps from him at QB. I'm mean after all no player can play two positions at once can they, unless they are named Troy Polamalu.

        I didn't say anything about Plumlee getting more snaps than Allen. Please don't make things up about me. However, it wouldn't have hurt to have Plumlee get the same number of reps as Allen in preseason games. But some of you must think Allen is an all world QB who doesn't need to earn his job or have competition. Outstanding logic there.

        I'll sum it up for you this way since you have claimed to be a sideline reporter in some football telecasts.

        Let's pretend that the Democratic Sports Network has offered you a contract tryout to be a sideline reporter for 3 preseason games because they believe in your abilities to be a sideline reporter. Let's pretend that they didn't use you for the first two games but they finally used you once in the final two minutes of the final game. They used the other reporters 4 times in other games but you only once in the final game. Would you feel like you were treated fairly? I bet you wouldn't.
        I very absurd comparison. It might be somewhat relevant if you're talking about getting a break on a major network that is already stacked with announcing talent. In that case, you would be thankful for getting in the door and putting something on tape. It also is a tremendous benefit for the coaching staff to give him a shot at showing his skills at not just quarterback, but any area where he might get a chance. It obviously worked, as Jacksonville immediately signed him to their practice squad.

        I'm a play-by-play announcer, by the way and am also not a Democrat. So you can stop with your weirdness with that stuff.
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        • Joel Buchsbaum
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          • Jan 2021
          • 7744

          #19
          Originally posted by Flasteel


          I'm a play-by-play announcer, by the way and am also not a Democrat. So you can stop with your weirdness with that stuff.
          For who? Which team?
          Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

          Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

          *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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          • Flasteel
            Hall of Famer
            • May 2008
            • 4004

            #20
            Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum

            For who? Which team?
            It's just the local high school football game of the week. No bigtime here.
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            • Joel Buchsbaum
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              • Jan 2021
              • 7744

              #21
              Originally posted by Flasteel

              It's just the local high school football game of the week. No bigtime here.
              At least you call the Jet sweep plays correctly
              Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

              Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

              *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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              • Flasteel
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 4004

                #22
                Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum

                At least you call the Jet sweep plays correctly
                Unfortunately, you are correct. Lots of experience over the past few years. Oddly, I don't believe we had a single one in our opening game last Friday.
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                • Captain Lemming
                  Legend
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 16041

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Prowler
                  I hate to criticize Mike Tomlin but our HC totally mismanaged John Rhys Plumlee. Never gave the kid a real chance at his natural position. Plumlee was our best QB in preseason and had a 79.9 PFF ranking, higher than all our QB's on the team.

                  Keep in mind Russell Wilson at this stage in his career is a sack machine. The old guy can't make decisions nearly fast enough. Justin Fields on the other hand is careless with the football and can't protect it from his fumble fingers. Justin has a severe problem of running right into sacks because he suffers from horrible vision while on the move. Kyle Allen was way better than both Wilson and Fields. Yet here we are.

                  Tomlin can't keep promises to the players he signs. Basically it seems to me he lied to Plumlee about giving him a fair chance at QB. No wonder the extremely talented Plumlee decided it was best to head to Jacksonville where the coaching staff appreciates his ability.
                  Gotta respectably disagree my friend.
                  Per that quote, all he was saying is that unlike other teams, Tomlin was going to let him try to make the team as a QB rather than immediately change his position like other teams wanted to do.
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                  In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

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                  The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                  • Prowler
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 1837

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Flasteel

                    I very absurd comparison. It might be somewhat relevant if you're talking about getting a break on a major network that is already stacked with announcing talent. In that case, you would be thankful for getting in the door and putting something on tape. It also is a tremendous benefit for the coaching staff to give him a shot at showing his skills at not just quarterback, but any area where he might get a chance. It obviously worked, as Jacksonville immediately signed him to their practice squad.

                    I'm a play-by-play announcer, by the way and am also not a Democrat. So you can stop with your weirdness with that stuff.
                    What is even weirder is you believing that an imaginary scenario of a sports network is in some way related to me outing you as a Democrat. In all honesty vote for whoever you like. It's really non of my business anyway as I'm not an American, and as such I can't vote. My biggest hope is for your country to become united with good governance for all people.

                    Other than that I have nothing else to say on politics so please let's quiet the political talk down on the Steelers forum or else Lemming will taser me or something. Just make sure if this happens that we get video of me flopping around on the ground so we can all have a good laugh.








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                    • Chucktownsteeler
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                      • May 2008
                      • 6849

                      #25
                      I do find it odd they gave Plumlee the highest contract of any UDFA ever. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
                      Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

                      I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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                      • Prowler
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1837

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
                        I do find it odd they gave Plumlee the highest contract of any UDFA ever. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
                        It makes zero sense and that same point crossed my mind as well. They thought so highly of him but then don't really give Plumlee a fair opportunity at QB to even compete for the 3rd string spot. It's a little bewildering to me. I guess I'm the only one who sees it as deception. There has got to be more to this story. Perhaps they didn't want the Ravens to get him, just a theory of course. He's sort of a Ravens type of QB afterall.
                        Last edited by Prowler; 09-03-2024, 03:50 PM.








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                        • Buzz
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                          • Dec 2017
                          • 8379

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Prowler

                          It makes zero sense and that same point crossed my mind as well. They thought so highly of him but then don't really give Plumlee a fair opportunity at QB to even compete for the 3rd string spot. It's a little bewildering to me. I guess I'm the only one who sees it as deception. There has got to be more to this story. Perhaps they didn't want the Ravens to get him, just a theory of course. He's sort of a Ravens type of QB afterall.
                          Maybe after having him in camp, they just decided he couldn't be as good as they'd initially hoped he might be
                          I was hoping they'd retain him on the PS, but maybe they'd seen enough

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                          • Prowler
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1837

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Buzz

                            Maybe after having him in camp, they just decided he couldn't be as good as they'd initially hoped he might be
                            I was hoping they'd retain him on the PS, but maybe they'd seen enough
                            That is quite possible but Plumlee looked pretty good in his very limited appearance at QB.








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                            • Captain Lemming
                              Legend
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 16041

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Prowler

                              What is even weirder is you believing that an imaginary scenario of a sports network is in some way related to me outing you as a Democrat. In all honesty vote for whoever you like. It's really non of my business anyway as I'm not an American, and as such I can't vote. My biggest hope is for your country to become united with good governance for all people.

                              Other than that I have nothing else to say on politics so please let's quiet the political talk down on the Steelers forum or else Lemming will taser me or something..
                              Okay THAT is hilarious.
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                              In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                              TCFCLTC-
                              The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                              • Oviedo
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 23824

                                #30
                                Plumlee isn't even part of the Jaguars 53. He is a practice squad player. He will never he a starting NFL QB. I like the kid, as he did good around the UCF program, but I also watched him play in games that mattered and he isn't a starting QB in the NFL.
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                                Can we put this ridiculous thread to rest
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