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  • ANPSTEEL
    Starter
    • Jun 2008
    • 888

    #16
    Re: Just to clarify something amongst the hysteria..

    I think some of you have been sniffing Ben's jock a little too much.

    Trying to equate Ben & Tiger Woods???

    Holy hyperbole batman.

    Ben is a very good QB. He is a top 5 QB in todays NFL. Someday, he might be top 10 all time. This would require him making significant changes to how he plays- and continued success. (to explain this would take much longer- and is not the intent of this post)

    Tiger Woods- Baring an incredible extraterrestrial abduction will be the best golfer of all time.
    Even if he were to stop playing golf today, he'd still be the 2nd best golfer of all time.

    I am not a Tiger Woods fan- but to suggest that Ben's abilities are- at this point on par with Wood's accomplishments and abilities- is absurd.

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    • snarky
      Pro Bowler
      • Sep 2008
      • 1198

      #17
      Re: Just to clarify something amongst the hysteria..

      Ben is elite. There is no way around that conclusion. Down by six with two minutes to go, there is not another QB in the league more likely to win the game. Manning and Brady have put up better numbers. But I don't think either of them matches up to Ben in terms of being able to just win a game in the clutch (Brady maybe).

      I'm starting to think this trade talk was either a PR move or a way to signal to Ben and the rest of the team that they need to keep it together from here on.

      But I also agree with Chadman, if they trade him there are other options that are out there which wouldn't leave us totally crippled. It might take a year or two to get back on track but you play the hand you are dealt.
      In response to his pleas, an officer said: "You think we've never arrested somebody that's made national media? ... We deal with the Bengals all the time."

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      • proudpittsburgher
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 2377

        #18
        Re: Just to clarify something amongst the hysteria..

        Originally posted by ANPSTEEL
        I think some of you have been sniffing Ben's jock a little too much.

        Trying to equate Ben & Tiger Woods???

        Holy hyperbole batman.

        Ben is a very good QB. He is a top 5 QB in todays NFL. Someday, he might be top 10 all time. This would require him making significant changes to how he plays- and continued success. (to explain this would take much longer- and is not the intent of this post)

        Tiger Woods- Baring an incredible extraterrestrial abduction will be the best golfer of all time.
        Even if he were to stop playing golf today, he'd still be the 2nd best golfer of all time.

        I am not a Tiger Woods fan- but to suggest that Ben's abilities are- at this point on par with Wood's accomplishments and abilities- is absurd.

        I'll start off by saying I think you are right. That being said. . .

        Steelers down 6 from their own 20 with 1:30 remaining . . . I like my chances with Ben.

        Tiger trailes by two strokes going into the final round of a tournament. History shows, he ain't no comeback kid. And by history shows, I mean a win has never come to him in this situation. He has never come behind.

        Ipso fact, Ben is better than Tiger Woods.
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        • ANPSTEEL
          Starter
          • Jun 2008
          • 888

          #19
          Re: Just to clarify something amongst the hysteria..

          Originally posted by proudpittsburgher
          Originally posted by ANPSTEEL
          I think some of you have been sniffing Ben's jock a little too much.

          Trying to equate Ben & Tiger Woods???

          Holy hyperbole batman.

          Ben is a very good QB. He is a top 5 QB in todays NFL. Someday, he might be top 10 all time. This would require him making significant changes to how he plays- and continued success. (to explain this would take much longer- and is not the intent of this post)

          Tiger Woods- Baring an incredible extraterrestrial abduction will be the best golfer of all time.
          Even if he were to stop playing golf today, he'd still be the 2nd best golfer of all time.

          I am not a Tiger Woods fan- but to suggest that Ben's abilities are- at this point on par with Wood's accomplishments and abilities- is absurd.

          I'll start off by saying I think you are right. That being said. . .

          Steelers down 6 from their own 20 with 1:30 remaining . . . I like my chances with Ben.

          Tiger trailes by two strokes going into the final round of a tournament. History shows, he ain't no comeback kid. And by history shows, I mean a win has never come to him in this situation. He has never come behind.

          Ipso fact, Ben is better than Tiger Woods.
          ipso facto my



          anyway-

          fair enough.

          that superbowl come from behind victory will go down as one of the most impressive drives ever- for both the QB and the WR.

          In respect to come from behind victories in golf-

          well, the obvious components of that would be-
          - how far back are you
          - how many other golfers are ahead of you
          - what do you shoot
          - and most important, do all of the people ahead of you shoot like crap on the final day

          Cinderella story.
          Cinderella boy.
          Here at Augusta Georgia...

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          • JTP53609
            Pro Bowler
            • Sep 2009
            • 1888

            #20
            Re: Just to clarify something amongst the hysteria..

            Originally posted by proudpittsburgher
            Originally posted by ANPSTEEL
            I think some of you have been sniffing Ben's jock a little too much.

            Trying to equate Ben & Tiger Woods???

            Holy hyperbole batman.

            Ben is a very good QB. He is a top 5 QB in todays NFL. Someday, he might be top 10 all time. This would require him making significant changes to how he plays- and continued success. (to explain this would take much longer- and is not the intent of this post)

            Tiger Woods- Baring an incredible extraterrestrial abduction will be the best golfer of all time.
            Even if he were to stop playing golf today, he'd still be the 2nd best golfer of all time.

            I am not a Tiger Woods fan- but to suggest that Ben's abilities are- at this point on par with Wood's accomplishments and abilities- is absurd.

            I'll start off by saying I think you are right. That being said. . .

            Steelers down 6 from their own 20 with 1:30 remaining . . . I like my chances with Ben.

            Tiger trailes by two strokes going into the final round of a tournament. History shows, he ain't no comeback kid. And by history shows, I mean a win has never come to him in this situation. He has never come behind.

            Ipso fact, Ben is better than Tiger Woods.
            Tiger likes to come from behind

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 27532

              #21
              Re: Just to clarify something amongst the hysteria..

              Tiger Woods is like Cowher with an 11 point lead...

              Ben is great but he hasn't transformed the game like Tiger... Golf went from old white guys to a young mans sport overnight. Way too many players on a football team to compare Ben to a guy in a one man sport.
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • proudpittsburgher
                Pro Bowler
                • May 2008
                • 2377

                #22
                Re: Just to clarify something amongst the hysteria..

                In respect to come from behind victories in golf-

                well, the obvious components of that would be-
                - how far back are you
                - how many other golfers are ahead of you
                - what do you shoot
                - and most important, do all of the people ahead of you shoot like crap on the final day
                I am fairly certain that Tiger has never come from behind in the final round of a tounament where he was trailing by any number of strokes. Either way, bad comparison.
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                • SteelAbility
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2149

                  #23
                  Re: Just to clarify something amongst the hysteria..

                  Ben and Tiger are actually quite comparable in terms of play under pressure. I think that's what Flippy means.

                  Football/Golf = Apples/Oranges.

                  In golf only YOU can pull you down (barring events like the Ryder Cup). In football, there are 21 others on your team that can pull you down. If Tiger were part of a golf team, where the aggregate team score is what counted, we would see how good he is, it just wouldn't be nearly as emphasized because it gets distributed to the team.

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                  • flippy
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 17088

                    #24
                    Re: Just to clarify something amongst the hysteria..

                    Originally posted by SteelAbility
                    Ben and Tiger are actually quite comparable in terms of play under pressure. I think that's what Flippy means.

                    Football/Golf = Apples/Oranges.

                    In golf only YOU can pull you down (barring events like the Ryder Cup). In football, there are 21 others on your team that can pull you down. If Tiger were part of a golf team, where the aggregate team score is what counted, we would see how good he is, it just wouldn't be nearly as emphasized because it gets distributed to the team.
                    exactly, if every player played their position as well as ben plays his, the steelers would never lose. ever.

                    tiger loses to mickelson and others, so ben is actually better imho.
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