Leftwich

[JAR]

Re: Leftwich

While they are expecting to learn today what punishment quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will receive from National Football League commissioner Roger Goodell, the Steelers have received trade feelers from other teams and have not ruled out the possibility of dealing their two-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback, the Post-Gazette has learned.

Read more: [url="http://www.postgazette.com/pg/10110/1051941-66.stm#ixzz0lgixLZeQ"]http://www.postgazette.com/pg/10110/105 ... z0lgixLZeQ[/url]


The Raiders or Rams are going to deal for him. Just got a feeling. The Raiders have fat boy Jamarcus Russell and Bruce Gradkowski who just tore his pectoral muscle benching this weekend. Russell showed up for OTA's weighing 290 pounds.

The Rams are on the verge of losing their franchise and if they take Bradford would sign him for about as much as they would have to pay Ben considering we already payed his bonuses and his yearly salary isn't insane. Why spend the top pick on a QB you have to groom for a few seasons when you could give up that pick plus next years first for a proven 2 time SB winner just entering his prime?

I bet the Steelers get 2 first rounders and some mid rounders thrown in for Ben.

It better be more than that because he's worth more than 2 first round picks and a few random mid rounds. Call me a purist but with Ben being so tied to the Steelers recent Super Bowls I don't want anyone else starting for the Steelers until he retires or is play severely declines. I hope he doesn't get traded but I guess anything is possible if someone offers up something crazy.

Honestly, if the trade Ben, I'm going to have a hard time supporting the Rooney's and therefore the Steelers for awhile and I have been a diehard homer since I was a kid. A Ben trade would be one of the dumbest moves ever and would make me lose a lot of respect for the Rooneys. Character issues are nothing new for this organization, ie Ernie Holmes, Bam Morris so trading Ben would be a very hypocritical move. I bet all of these people screaming the Steelers are all about character and not winning would be the first ones dumping their tickets and or leaving their seat when the Steelers return to mediocrity for years to come.

[Snatch98]

Re: Leftwich

While they are expecting to learn today what punishment quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will receive from National Football League commissioner Roger Goodell, the Steelers have received trade feelers from other teams and have not ruled out the possibility of dealing their two-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback, the Post-Gazette has learned.

Read more: [url="http://www.postgazette.com/pg/10110/1051941-66.stm#ixzz0lgixLZeQ"]http://www.postgazette.com/pg/10110/105 ... z0lgixLZeQ[/url]


The Raiders or Rams are going to deal for him. Just got a feeling. The Raiders have fat boy Jamarcus Russell and Bruce Gradkowski who just tore his pectoral muscle benching this weekend. Russell showed up for OTA's weighing 290 pounds.

The Rams are on the verge of losing their franchise and if they take Bradford would sign him for about as much as they would have to pay Ben considering we already payed his bonuses and his yearly salary isn't insane. Why spend the top pick on a QB you have to groom for a few seasons when you could give up that pick plus next years first for a proven 2 time SB winner just entering his prime?

I bet the Steelers get 2 first rounders and some mid rounders thrown in for Ben.

It better be more than that because he's worth more than 2 first round picks and a few random mid rounds. Call me a purist but with Ben being so tied to the Steelers recent Super Bowls I don't want anyone else starting for the Steelers until he retires or is play severely declines. I hope he doesn't get traded but I guess anything is possible if someone offers up something crazy.

Honestly, if the trade Ben, I'm going to have a hard time supporting the Rooney's and therefore the Steelers for awhile and I have been a diehard homer since I was a kid. A Ben trade would be one of the dumbest moves ever and would make me lose a lot of respect for the Rooneys. Character issues are nothing new for this organization, ie Ernie Holmes, Bam Morris so trading Ben would be a very hypocritical move. I bet all of these people screaming the Steelers are all about character and not winning would be the first ones dumping their tickets and or leaving their seat when the Steelers return to mediocrity for years to come.

He won't get traded. I'm tried of reading about the "possibility" of the "impossible" and I too would have a hard time rooting for the Steelers if they bail on him because of a bunch of sh.it he still hasn't and likely never will be convicted for...it's getting old in a hurry. I'll also take the time to say again that he's worth more than a 1st this year and one next. The man is a winner and one that belongs on the Steelers. I don't believe the Rooney's are considered a trade because they know what he's worth to the franchise.

[JAR]

Re: Leftwich

While they are expecting to learn today what punishment quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will receive from National Football League commissioner Roger Goodell, the Steelers have received trade feelers from other teams and have not ruled out the possibility of dealing their two-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback, the Post-Gazette has learned.

Read more: [url="http://www.postgazette.com/pg/10110/1051941-66.stm#ixzz0lgixLZeQ"]http://www.postgazette.com/pg/10110/105 ... z0lgixLZeQ[/url]


The Raiders or Rams are going to deal for him. Just got a feeling. The Raiders have fat boy Jamarcus Russell and Bruce Gradkowski who just tore his pectoral muscle benching this weekend. Russell showed up for OTA's weighing 290 pounds.

The Rams are on the verge of losing their franchise and if they take Bradford would sign him for about as much as they would have to pay Ben considering we already payed his bonuses and his yearly salary isn't insane. Why spend the top pick on a QB you have to groom for a few seasons when you could give up that pick plus next years first for a proven 2 time SB winner just entering his prime?

I bet the Steelers get 2 first rounders and some mid rounders thrown in for Ben.

It better be more than that because he's worth more than 2 first round picks and a few random mid rounds. Call me a purist but with Ben being so tied to the Steelers recent Super Bowls I don't want anyone else starting for the Steelers until he retires or is play severely declines. I hope he doesn't get traded but I guess anything is possible if someone offers up something crazy.

Honestly, if the trade Ben, I'm going to have a hard time supporting the Rooney's and therefore the Steelers for awhile and I have been a diehard homer since I was a kid. A Ben trade would be one of the dumbest moves ever and would make me lose a lot of respect for the Rooneys. Character issues are nothing new for this organization, ie Ernie Holmes, Bam Morris so trading Ben would be a very hypocritical move. I bet all of these people screaming the Steelers are all about character and not winning would be the first ones dumping their tickets and or leaving their seat when the Steelers return to mediocrity for years to come.

He won't get traded. I'm tried of reading about the "possibility" of the "impossible" and I too would have a hard time rooting for the Steelers if they bail on him because of a bunch of sh.it he still hasn't and likely never will be convicted for...it's getting old in a hurry. I'll also take the time to say again that he's worth more than a 1st this year and one next. The man is a winner and one that belongs on the Steelers. I don't believe the Rooney's are considered a trade because they know what he's worth to the franchise.

I believe you are correct, the Rooney's aren't stupid and they know the fans aren't going to forgive a 6-10 team for 10 years because the players are all "boy scouts"

[SteelCzar76]

Re: Leftwich

I don't necessarily think that MOST of SteelerNation would be so overwhelmed with grief,..or give up on their lifelong franchise if we trade Roethlisberger.

I say this not because of my personal opinion or those of other lifelong Steeler Fans that i know whom do not reside in western PA. But in light of the "Should the Steelers trade Roethlisberger" poll on the Post Gazette website that currently says that 59% of the people whom voted are in favor of trading him.

[url]http://www.postgazette.com/polls/Default.asp[/url]

[BURGH86STEEL]

Re: Leftwich

While they are expecting to learn today what punishment quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will receive from National Football League commissioner Roger Goodell, the Steelers have received trade feelers from other teams and have not ruled out the possibility of dealing their two-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback, the Post-Gazette has learned.

Read more: [url="http://www.postgazette.com/pg/10110/1051941-66.stm#ixzz0lgixLZeQ"]http://www.postgazette.com/pg/10110/105 ... z0lgixLZeQ[/url]


The Raiders or Rams are going to deal for him. Just got a feeling. The Raiders have fat boy Jamarcus Russell and Bruce Gradkowski who just tore his pectoral muscle benching this weekend. Russell showed up for OTA's weighing 290 pounds.

The Rams are on the verge of losing their franchise and if they take Bradford would sign him for about as much as they would have to pay Ben considering we already payed his bonuses and his yearly salary isn't insane. Why spend the top pick on a QB you have to groom for a few seasons when you could give up that pick plus next years first for a proven 2 time SB winner just entering his prime?

I bet the Steelers get 2 first rounders and some mid rounders thrown in for Ben.

It better be more than that because he's worth more than 2 first round picks and a few random mid rounds. Call me a purist but with Ben being so tied to the Steelers recent Super Bowls I don't want anyone else starting for the Steelers until he retires or is play severely declines. I hope he doesn't get traded but I guess anything is possible if someone offers up something crazy.

Honestly, if the trade Ben, I'm going to have a hard time supporting the Rooney's and therefore the Steelers for awhile and I have been a diehard homer since I was a kid. A Ben trade would be one of the dumbest moves ever and would make me lose a lot of respect for the Rooneys. Character issues are nothing new for this organization, ie Ernie Holmes, Bam Morris so trading Ben would be a very hypocritical move. I bet all of these people screaming the Steelers are all about character and not winning would be the first ones dumping their tickets and or leaving their seat when the Steelers return to mediocrity for years to come.

He won't get traded. I'm tried of reading about the "possibility" of the "impossible" and I too would have a hard time rooting for the Steelers if they bail on him because of a bunch of sh.it he still hasn't and likely never will be convicted for...it's getting old in a hurry. I'll also take the time to say again that he's worth more than a 1st this year and one next. The man is a winner and one that belongs on the Steelers. I don't believe the Rooney's are considered a trade because they know what he's worth to the franchise.

I believe you are correct, the Rooney's aren't stupid and they know the fans aren't going to forgive a 6-10 team for 10 years because the players are all "boy scouts"

I don't believe Ben will be traded. I do think it is a possibility. Ben is not bigger then the Steelers. Hard to believe that you feel the Steelers will be a 6-10 team for the next 10 years without Ben.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Leftwich

Santonio Holmes and a 7th round draft choice for Byron Leftwich and a 5th rounder...


how many Steelers fans would have made that trade a month ago?

[papillon]

Re: Leftwich

Insurance for after they trade Ben?

Sam Bradford, #14, twice as nice as #7.

Pappy

[SteelCzar76]

Re: Leftwich

Or,..... the final poll results at the aforementioned Post Gazette site that says that 75% of voters stated that they WOULD NOT BE UPSET if we dealt Roethlisberger.

[url]http://www.postgazette.com/polls/Default.asp?pollID=3593[/url]


I'm just saying,...i know that devout Roethlisbergerians worship the guy no matter what and place him above the franchise. But dude,...IMO they very well may be the minority.

[papillon]

Re: Leftwich

Why in the Hell did we sign Batch to a 2 year deal?

That was before the Ben-a-poolooza tour.

Pappy

[cruzer8]

Re: Leftwich

I like the signing. Hopefully Rog will come to his senses and punish Ben by way of a fine, community service and counseling so Lefty can play the back up role he's so perfect for.

And agree that Ben will not be traded. Regardless of what the oh so scientific interwebz poll results are. And yeah, those folks who say they want him off the team would be dumping their tickets when the team goes in the crapper.

[Shawn]

Re: Leftwich

Come on guys...the Rooneys are not stupid. A franchise QB of Ben's caliber is worth at the very least 3 first round draft choices. And that is an attempt to place a value on something that is nearly priceless in the football world.

Let me tell you what is going on here. The Rooneys are very wise business men...shrewder than many give them credit for. They love the trade talks because it serves several purposes. One it scares the ish out of Ben and sends a message not only to Ben but the rest of the team. No one is above the Steelers. Second, it sends a message to the world and specifically to Steeler fans. It says, we are indeed above...we hold our organization to a higher level of accountability. It helps them save a bit of face. Also, you never know...what if the Raiders were willing to give us 2 years worth of draft picks...or a top tier player and a couple firsts. It's always nice to know the value of your players...not that they plan on acting.

Ben will be the Steeler QB for many years if he can keep his nose clean.

[BURGH86STEEL]

Re: Leftwich

While they are expecting to learn today what punishment quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will receive from National Football League commissioner Roger Goodell, the Steelers have received trade feelers from other teams and have not ruled out the possibility of dealing their two-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback, the Post-Gazette has learned.

Read more: [url="http://www.postgazette.com/pg/10110/1051941-66.stm#ixzz0lgixLZeQ"]http://www.postgazette.com/pg/10110/105 ... z0lgixLZeQ[/url]


The Raiders or Rams are going to deal for him. Just got a feeling. The Raiders have fat boy Jamarcus Russell and Bruce Gradkowski who just tore his pectoral muscle benching this weekend. Russell showed up for OTA's weighing 290 pounds.

The Rams are on the verge of losing their franchise and if they take Bradford would sign him for about as much as they would have to pay Ben considering we already payed his bonuses and his yearly salary isn't insane. Why spend the top pick on a QB you have to groom for a few seasons when you could give up that pick plus next years first for a proven 2 time SB winner just entering his prime?

I bet the Steelers get 2 first rounders and some mid rounders thrown in for Ben.

It better be more than that because he's worth more than 2 first round picks and a few random mid rounds. Call me a purist but with Ben being so tied to the Steelers recent Super Bowls I don't want anyone else starting for the Steelers until he retires or is play severely declines. I hope he doesn't get traded but I guess anything is possible if someone offers up something crazy.

Honestly, if the trade Ben, I'm going to have a hard time supporting the Rooney's and therefore the Steelers for awhile and I have been a diehard homer since I was a kid. A Ben trade would be one of the dumbest moves ever and would make me lose a lot of respect for the Rooneys. Character issues are nothing new for this organization, ie Ernie Holmes, Bam Morris so trading Ben would be a very hypocritical move. I bet all of these people screaming the Steelers are all about character and not winning would be the first ones dumping their tickets and or leaving their seat when the Steelers return to mediocrity for years to come.

He won't get traded. I'm tried of reading about the "possibility" of the "impossible" and I too would have a hard time rooting for the Steelers if they bail on him because of a bunch of sh.it he still hasn't and likely never will be convicted for...it's getting old in a hurry. I'll also take the time to say again that he's worth more than a 1st this year and one next. The man is a winner and one that belongs on the Steelers. I don't believe the Rooney's are considered a trade because they know what he's worth to the franchise.

The discussions have taken place inside the building if you believe what Rooney said. That's why fans speculate.

Hard to believe that you two will have a hard time rooting for the Steelers if they part ways with Ben. They have valid reasons if they decide to part ways with him. Ben will be traded if they feel he is not ready to get his act together off the field.

This situation goes beyond a conviction or guilty/not guilty. Ben will no longer be with the Steelers if he finds himself in this situation again. He may be suspended for a year if he is in this situation again. Maybe the next woman gets a conviction? This is the "situation" as it stands today. This is what goes beyond guilty/not guilty. What will be next if Ben makes another poor decision with an unknown woman?

The Steelers have a very tough decision to make. That is why it is important to determine if Ben is ready to make the necessary changes in his life. Better for them to get something of value for him now then nothing or very little for him later(if he is to stubborn to change). I am glad I don't have to make that decision.

[cruzer8]

Re: Leftwich

What will happen if he doesn't make a poor decision and some woman accuses him of something?

See, I don't know what kind of decision he made in GA (other than to go out with friends and bodyguards) because I wasn't there and I don't take the tabloid media headlines as absolute truth.

[papillon]

Re: Leftwich

What will happen if he doesn't make a poor decision and some woman accuses him of something?

See, I don't know what kind of decision he made in GA (other than to go out with friends and bodyguards) because I wasn't there and I don't take the tabloid media headlines as absolute truth.

Attempting to have sex in a public restroom with a drunk 20 year old girl doesn't seem like a bad decision to you?

Pappy

[SS Laser]

Re: Leftwich

First I am not one to want Ben traded. He is worth the gamble to stay a steeler. But it scares the hell out of me how he will handle the pressure of football + all the"rape" crap some steeler fans and rival fans will hound him with all season? Are you guys worried even just a little all this crap added up could really hurt Bens performance on the field? Then at that point his trade value drops a ton. Also I am worried he could become concussion prone like other QB's. I will say again that I might do a trade if it was blockbuster deal like no other. But I hope Ben stays and does very well! (SB #7 and #8 atleast LOL)