Former Coach Bill Cowher Comments On Roethlisberger

[pfelix73]

Re: Former Coach Bill Cowher Comments On Roethlisberger

Because he's gonna tow the company line here and accept what they give him and just shut up. I probably wouldn't but then again, I'm a one man show and don't work for others. It's just the way it is- he'll accept it and move on.

Might not be right but.... oh well.

[Chadman]

Re: Former Coach Bill Cowher Comments On Roethlisberger

Because he's gonna tow the company line here and accept what they give him and just shut up. I probably wouldn't but then again, I'm a one man show and don't work for others. It's just the way it is- he'll accept it and move on.

Might not be right but.... oh well.

What? And make himself appear guilty enough for the Steelers & NFL to feel they need to punish him?

With a court case still hanging over his head?

Sorry Felix- you are generally more thought out than that- that just seems like "Fairy Land BS" & more to do with you wanting to believe Ben is innocent.

His legal team & the players union would never stand for it.

[SS Laser]

Re: Former Coach Bill Cowher Comments On Roethlisberger

Can someone please explain what Ben is so ready to accept his punishment for?

And before you start saying Chadman is changing his arguments regarding Ben- the reason Chadman wants to know is this- he is remarkably accepting of his fate for an 'innocent' man.

I said this before in another thread. But will hook you up again chadman.

Ben is guilty of bad PR for the steelers/nfl more then once. It could have been a bar fight for example. With no one pressing charges so nothing was illegal. It would be like if you worked for a large company and made that company look bad some how just did not break any laws. Well you did break company laws of conduct. So the company has to take action.

Look at Holmes, no jail time or anything for weed. Just broke nfl laws. I understand why you are pisssed chadman. So am I. But I am not looking at what Ben could have done. Just what I think and the nfl/steelers think he is guilty of. Bad PR!

So he will take the fine/suspension like a good company man who screwed up.

[Chadman]

Re: Former Coach Bill Cowher Comments On Roethlisberger

Can someone please explain what Ben is so ready to accept his punishment for?

And before you start saying Chadman is changing his arguments regarding Ben- the reason Chadman wants to know is this- he is remarkably accepting of his fate for an 'innocent' man.

I said this before in another thread. But will hook you up again chadman.

Ben is guilty of bad PR for the steelers/nfl more then once. It could have been a bar fight for example. With no one pressing charges so nothing was illegal. It would be like if you worked for a large company and made that company look bad some how just did not break any laws. Well you did break company laws of conduct. So the company has to take action.

Look at Holmes, no jail time or anything for weed. Just broke nfl laws. I understand why you are pisssed chadman. So am I. But I am not looking at what Ben could have done. Just what I think and the nfl/steelers think he is guilty of. Bad PR!

So he will take the fine/suspension like a good company man who screwed up.

If that is truly the case- what is stopping a fan of a divisional rival claiming Ben diddled her- in order to see him suspended based on rumours/innuendo?

Chadman finds it close to impossible to believe that the NFL/Steelers could really punish Ben for bad PR.

For Chadman, if Ben sits there & accepts the punishment doled out to him, it is like admitting he did wrong. With a court case hanging over his head- is that the sort of admission you want to make?

The wording of the reason for any penalty coming Ben's way will be very interesting.

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

Re: Former Coach Bill Cowher Comments On Roethlisberger

Can someone please explain what Ben is so ready to accept his punishment for?

And before you start saying Chadman is changing his arguments regarding Ben- the reason Chadman wants to know is this- he is remarkably accepting of his fate for an 'innocent' man.

I said this before in another thread. But will hook you up again chadman.

Ben is guilty of bad PR for the steelers/nfl more then once. It could have been a bar fight for example. With no one pressing charges so nothing was illegal. It would be like if you worked for a large company and made that company look bad some how just did not break any laws. Well you did break company laws of conduct. So the company has to take action.

Look at Holmes, no jail time or anything for weed. Just broke nfl laws. I understand why you are pisssed chadman. So am I. But I am not looking at what Ben could have done. Just what I think and the nfl/steelers think he is guilty of. Bad PR!

So he will take the fine/suspension like a good company man who screwed up.

If that is truly the case- what is stopping a fan of a divisional rival claiming Ben diddled her- in order to see him suspended based on rumours/innuendo?

Chadman finds it close to impossible to believe that the NFL/Steelers could really punish Ben for bad PR.Bringing disrepute on the NFL - that's in his contract ... is this too different from "bad PR"?

For Chadman, if Ben sits there & accepts the punishment doled out to him, it is like admitting he did wrong. With a court case hanging over his head- is that the sort of admission you want to make?I understand you feel silence is an admission of guilt, but as mentioned earlier in this post, it can be for any of a number of other reasons - told to just ben dover and take it by the F.O. or he'll find out what's good for him ... instructed by his lawyer to keep it zipped while his private investigator continues to collect information... etc., etc. I looks bad now, I agree. I only hope that it serves a positive purpose at some point in the future.

The wording of the reason for any penalty coming Ben's way will be very interesting.

[SS Laser]

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If that is truly the case- what is stopping a fan of a divisional rival claiming Ben diddled her- in order to see him suspended based on rumours/innuendo?

Well it would be hard for this to happen if he is at home with proof? Ben needs to say home and play football right now.

Chadman finds it close to impossible to believe that the NFL/Steelers could really punish Ben for bad PR.

We will see. That is how I see the code of conduct in the nfl. Tell me what you think of when I say code of conduct?

For Chadman, if Ben sits there & accepts the punishment doled out to him, it is like admitting he did wrong. With a court case hanging over his head- is that the sort of admission you want to make?

He was wrong in going out and acting like a jacasss! Not guilty of breaking any laws.

The wording of the reason for any penalty coming Ben's way will be very interesting.[/quote]
Yes it will chadman. But I think it will be said that he broke the steeler/nfl code of conduct. What conduct? Do they have to say? I don't think so. Yes this is a mess.

[Chadman]

Re: Former Coach Bill Cowher Comments On Roethlisberger

Yes it will chadman. But I think it will be said that he broke the steeler/nfl code of conduct. What conduct? Do they have to say? I don't think so. Yes this is a mess.

So let's say they suspend him for this.

McNulty's lawyer will latch on- showing a trend of poor behaviour, and will likely then require the NFL/Steelers to explain what part of the code of conduct he broke.

What do they say then?

Would Ben's legal team be under more pressure if this goes down?

[SS Laser]

Re: Former Coach Bill Cowher Comments On Roethlisberger

So let's say they suspend him for this.

McNulty's lawyer will latch on- showing a trend of poor behaviour, and will likely then require the NFL/Steelers to explain what part of the code of conduct he broke.

What do they say then?

Would Ben's legal team be under more pressure if this goes down?[/quote]

Yes Ben does show a trend of poor behaviour. But does that mean he has raped anyone?
I know a few people who show a trend of poor behaviour but they are really good people just not very smart. They would never rape anyone I don't think.

I am sure the NFL/Steelers and Ben are dealing with all there lawyers on his suspension. One extra reason to wait till after the draft. Why goodell is going to review all the info on Ben. Why they talked for 2hrs in there meeting.

Not to sure how the vegas deal will turn out. I will just wait and see. I think it will take a long time. But that is not good for Ben's PR either.
I will just have to hold on to what ever the Steelers do. It is there team I am "fine" with whatever they do. I can still come here and B*itch about it.

[Chadman]

Re: Former Coach Bill Cowher Comments On Roethlisberger

True enough...

[Slapstick]

Re: Former Coach Bill Cowher Comments On Roethlisberger

Of course Ben is going to be suspended for bad PR. He has not committed a crime, so what else could it be?

If you are saying that the NFL somehow has evidence that Ben is guilty but are not divulging that information to the authorities, I would have to believe that you are mistaken...

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Ben will be suspended for bad PR...