I want the Steelers to draft Tim Tebow!

[JAR]

Re: I want the Steelers to draft Tim Tebow!

[Dee Dub]

Re: I want the Steelers to draft Tim Tebow!

He has poor mechanics.

No one is arguing this point. We are all in agreement. However he has already in a short period of time shown to have the moxie to change some of this.

What makes you so sure he can be a good passer? You said earlier that Rivers had poor mechanics, what a terrible comparison. Rivers was a record-setting passer in college. Tebow has not shown anything as one.

What do you think would have been said of Rivers with his mechanics had he played in a spread-run offense at NC State?

I am not saying Tebow will become a great passer in the NFL. What I am saying is this...I think that Tebow has the work ethic to become a solid/descent passer in the NFL. And with everything else he brings..I think that will make him a winner.

[steelernation77]

Re: I want the Steelers to draft Tim Tebow!

He has poor mechanics.

No one is arguing this point. We are all in agreement. However he has already in a short period of time shown to have the moxie to change some of this.

What makes you so sure he can be a good passer? You said earlier that Rivers had poor mechanics, what a terrible comparison. Rivers was a record-setting passer in college. Tebow has not shown anything as one.

What do you think would have been said of Rivers with his mechanics had he played in a spread-run offense at NC State?

I am not saying Tebow will become a great passer in the NFL. What I am saying is this...I think that Tebow has the work ethic to become a solid/descent passer in the NFL. And with everything else he brings..I think that will make him a winner.

Rivers didn't play in a system like that though. He was a proven commodity. He was widely regarded as the most NFL ready out of any of the QBs available that year. Tebow is not any of those things. He is way too unproven as a passer to draft in the first round.

[Dee Dub]

Re: I want the Steelers to draft Tim Tebow!

He has poor mechanics.

No one is arguing this point. We are all in agreement. However he has already in a short period of time shown to have the moxie to change some of this.

What makes you so sure he can be a good passer? You said earlier that Rivers had poor mechanics, what a terrible comparison. Rivers was a record-setting passer in college. Tebow has not shown anything as one.

What do you think would have been said of Rivers with his mechanics had he played in a spread-run offense at NC State?

I am not saying Tebow will become a great passer in the NFL. What I am saying is this...I think that Tebow has the work ethic to become a solid/descent passer in the NFL. And with everything else he brings..I think that will make him a winner.

Rivers didn't play in a system like that though. He was a proven commodity. He was widely regarded as the most NFL ready out of any of the QBs available that year. Tebow is not any of those things. He is way too unproven as a passer to draft in the first round.

I realize that. But answer my question. What do you think would have been said of Rivers with his mechanics had he played in a spread-run offense at NC State?

[SteelAbility]

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that would just push this offseason from being bad to horrific

You mean it's not horrific now?

[WoodleyofTroy]

Re: I want the Steelers to draft Tim Tebow!

It's possible they target Tebow. If the Steelers are going to go out of their way to send a message, then the draft should reflect that by, going out of their way to find character guys.

I wouldn't mind him on this team one bit.

[Steel Life]

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BTW...Steve Young was a record-setting QB at BYU who was second in the Heisman voting that year & won the Davey O'Brien trophy as the best nation's best QB. He was then selected #1 by the expansion USFL & then by the Bucs when the USFL went bust - hardly what DD described.

Look, no one doubts his dedication, but to say that is the reason he will succeed is naive...after all, guys like Ty Detmer & Danny Wuerfel were pretty dedicated too. The fact is that he just doesn't make decisions fast enough & doesn't have the arm to make up the difference. He'll be a great #2 guy though...

[RussBII]

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Dub, people don't like him because how much the broadcasters talked about him. It's like hearing a song on the radio too much. I love tebow.. always will. I'd love for him to be a Steeler.

That's one reason I don't like the guy. The inevitable slurp fest that will follow him wherever he goes. I also worry about a guy like that potentially dividing the locker with his faith. That last reason is totally supposition though. I just know I'm not religious at all and when folks assume I am, or attempt to sway me towards their faith, it bothers me to no end.

That aside, if we draft him, and he wears black and gold, I'll cheer for him.

Steeler fans are always complaining about how the Steelers get no love. Put Tebow on this team and he becomes the starter and all of a suddden the Steelers are media darling. Bank on it.

Not I, sir. I think the team implodes with too much attention. And there's a difference between hoping they show our highlights and having to surgically remove announcer's mouths from Tebow's posterior (best case).

[steelernation77]

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[quote=Dee Dub]

He has poor mechanics.

No one is arguing this point. We are all in agreement. However he has already in a short period of time shown to have the moxie to change some of this.

What makes you so sure he can be a good passer? You said earlier that Rivers had poor mechanics, what a terrible comparison. Rivers was a record-setting passer in college. Tebow has not shown anything as one.

What do you think would have been said of Rivers with his mechanics had he played in a spread-run offense at NC State?

I am not saying Tebow will become a great passer in the NFL. What I am saying is this...I think that Tebow has the work ethic to become a solid/descent passer in the NFL. And with everything else he brings..I think that will make him a winner.

Rivers didn't play in a system like that though. He was a proven commodity. He was widely regarded as the most NFL ready out of any of the QBs available that year. Tebow is not any of those things. He is way too unproven as a passer to draft in the first round.

I realize that. But answer my question. What do you think would have been said of Rivers with his mechanics had he played in a spread-run offense at NC State?[/quote:1hv37mrt]

That's moot. Of course he wouldn't have been drafted as high because he wouldn't have passed. That argument is a straw-man. The point is, Tebow has poor mechanics and is unproven as a passer. Those two things are enough not to draft him in the first round.

[birtikidis]

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BTW...Steve Young was a record-setting QB at BYU who was second in the Heisman voting that year & won the Davey O'Brien trophy as the best nation's best QB. He was then selected #1 by the expansion USFL & then by the Bucs when the USFL went bust - hardly what DD described.

Look, no one doubts his dedication, but to say that is the reason he will succeed is naive...after all, guys like Ty Detmer & Danny Wuerfel were pretty dedicated too. The fact is that he just doesn't make decisions fast enough & doesn't have the arm to make up the difference. He'll be a great #2 guy though...

so young finsihed second in hiesman voting.. good for him. tebow finished in the top 3 on three seperate occasions and won it as a sophmore. he also won a national championship as a full time starter. he also has several SEC records that may never get broken. And Danny and Ty were no where NEAR as dedicated as Tim is. He lives and breaths football.

[Dee Dub]

Re: I want the Steelers to draft Tim Tebow!

BTW...Steve Young was a record-setting QB at BYU who was second in the Heisman voting that year & won the Davey O'Brien trophy as the best nation's best QB. He was then selected #1 by the expansion USFL & then by the Bucs when the USFL went bust - hardly what DD described.

I think you missed the point about Young. He never had the big arm. And early on he wasnt the accurate passer he later became. He was a huge product of his offenses. Look at his numbers at Tampa Bay. 53.7% completion and a 65.5 passer rating in his first year as a starter there. In 1988 when he was forced to step in for an injured Montana with the 49ers he was at 53.5% completions and 72.2 as a passer rating. He was a work in progress early on.

Sure he let it up at BYU...but what was the type of offense they ran there?

We knock Tebow but we dont even consider what was asked of him at UF? Makes no sense.

[birtikidis]

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[quote=steelernation77]

He has poor mechanics.

No one is arguing this point. We are all in agreement. However he has already in a short period of time shown to have the moxie to change some of this.

What makes you so sure he can be a good passer? You said earlier that Rivers had poor mechanics, what a terrible comparison. Rivers was a record-setting passer in college. Tebow has not shown anything as one.

What do you think would have been said of Rivers with his mechanics had he played in a spread-run offense at NC State?

I am not saying Tebow will become a great passer in the NFL. What I am saying is this...I think that Tebow has the work ethic to become a solid/descent passer in the NFL. And with everything else he brings..I think that will make him a winner.

Rivers didn't play in a system like that though. He was a proven commodity. He was widely regarded as the most NFL ready out of any of the QBs available that year. Tebow is not any of those things. He is way too unproven as a passer to draft in the first round.

I realize that. But answer my question. What do you think would have been said of Rivers with his mechanics had he played in a spread-run offense at NC State?

That's moot. Of course he wouldn't have been drafted as high because he wouldn't have passed. That argument is a straw-man. The point is, Tebow has poor mechanics and is unproven as a passer. Those two things are enough not to draft him in the first round.[/quote:3l7xiysc]
I disagree, Tebow had a number of near 300 yard games (I believe it was 8, but I'll have to look it up when i get time) the past two seasons. I point to those number because those are all games that he didn't play the 4th quarter.

[Dee Dub]

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[quote=steelernation77]

He has poor mechanics.

No one is arguing this point. We are all in agreement. However he has already in a short period of time shown to have the moxie to change some of this.

What makes you so sure he can be a good passer? You said earlier that Rivers had poor mechanics, what a terrible comparison. Rivers was a record-setting passer in college. Tebow has not shown anything as one.

What do you think would have been said of Rivers with his mechanics had he played in a spread-run offense at NC State?

I am not saying Tebow will become a great passer in the NFL. What I am saying is this...I think that Tebow has the work ethic to become a solid/descent passer in the NFL. And with everything else he brings..I think that will make him a winner.

Rivers didn't play in a system like that though. He was a proven commodity. He was widely regarded as the most NFL ready out of any of the QBs available that year. Tebow is not any of those things. He is way too unproven as a passer to draft in the first round.

I realize that. But answer my question. What do you think would have been said of Rivers with his mechanics had he played in a spread-run offense at NC State?

That's moot. Of course he wouldn't have been drafted as high because he wouldn't have passed. That argument is a straw-man. The point is, Tebow has poor mechanics and is unproven as a passer. Those two things are enough not to draft him in the first round.[/quote:2jw5u8fo]

Moot?? Hardly. For what you knock Tebow for you concede the same would have been said about Rivers had he been asked to run the spread-run offense...a Qb who also had poor mechanics coming out of college.

Wow....

[eniparadoxgma]

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Funny...over at the Trib before we drafted Ben Roethlisberger there where some who had this same opinion about Ben or even Phillip Rivers.

...and there was this one poster there...cant remember who...that kept insisting Ben should and could start from day one. Hmmmmmmmmmm???

And I think the same of Tebow.

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[calmkiller]

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Seriously. This guy is a winner. He is as hard a worker as there is. He is dedicated to making himself the best he can be. He has already improved many things about his mechanics this off season and it has come from being dedicated and working hard.

I believe if he is put in the right situation....he is going to an above average QB.

And if this team is going to keep Ben...this is as good of a message to him as there is.

...and if they aren't....two first round picks (possibly 3), sure could go a long way to get this defense back to being the best in the league.

shud try finding the worst thing that you could drink n kill urself