If you had the opportunity right now...

[Shawn]

Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

[quote=Dee Dub]

No...I wouldn't trade him.

Even if this third incident is true?? And if you still say "NO"...how many more would it take for you?? Just curious.

Huh? How are we supposed to know if this is true. So, if I say Ben raped me right now...does that make it a 4th? Dayum Ben is piling them up.

You think Art Rooney II or Roger Goodell care whether it is true or not???[/quote:39cxy7gt]

Hmm...let me think on that one. I'm going to have to go with a yes.

[Steel Life]

Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

[quote=Shawn]

No...I wouldn't trade him.

Even if this third incident is true?? And if you still say "NO"...how many more would it take for you?? Just curious.

Huh? How are we supposed to know if this is true. So, if I say Ben raped me right now...does that make it a 4th? Dayum Ben is piling them up.

Shawn is right...if this was true, why didn't it come out before when it would've been much more relevant? This looks more like piling on at this point with the media driving a "public conviction" in lieu of the GA DA not charging him. If there there isn't enough evidence to charge him, then don't create a situation where you essential convict him. The DA needed to say what was the driving factor in not bringing charges - she was so drunk from a night of drinking that she couldn't remember details, her story kept changing & there wasn't enough medical evidence to support her allegations.

It seems that a lynch mob mentality is developing here...he's not been charged with anything at any time, so let's let Goodell do what he wants & let Ben figure what he needs to do to get his act together.

Yeah, what I find odd is the lawyer waited until after the press conference. I mean very little information came out that we didn't already know. So, what new information came out that made the lawyer want to come foward? I think it's funny the lawyer would come out the day after so he wouldnt have to answer questions from the Georgia DA about these allegations.[/quote:i89ve7m1]
I know this, this guy had better be right because if he just threw something out there to "pile on" & it isn't true then Ben would have every right to sue him for libel. In a best case scenario I hope that McNulty is proved to be a flake & gives Ben some relief.

[flippy]

Re: Trade Ben For 2 First Rounders Including 2010 #1 overall?

If we're gonna trade him, he's gotta be worth at least 3 #1s.

If we did have to trade him, we could get Suh and trade up for Berry and load up the defense.

Three #1's? Come on now, this is Ricky Williams and the Rams aren't run by Mike Ditka...

How many QBs are there in the league that have won 2 superbowls? I want better than a Herschel Walker trade.

[BlackJackGold]

Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

Just trying to get a pulse of this place about the Ben situation...so a little thought experiment.

If you were sitting in the Steelers FO and you had the opportunity right now to trade Ben to the Ram's for two first round picks (2010 and 2011) would you do it? For the purpose of this question, the decision is yours and yours alone. Assume that the offer is only valid for the next 30 minutes and after that it is gone forever.

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Personally, I would come down on the side of keeping him. But it would be very close decision.

He would be gone.

The rape stuff wouldn't even figure into it.

Just based on his medical history of multiple concusions he is only 2 away from having to retire anyway.

That could be as early as some point in this season, but more likely within the next two years.

[papillon]

Re: Trade Ben For 2 First Rounders Including 2010 #1 overall?

If we're gonna trade him, he's gotta be worth at least 3 #1s.

If we did have to trade him, we could get Suh and trade up for Berry and load up the defense.

Three #1's? Come on now, this is Ricky Williams and the Rams aren't run by Mike Ditka...

How many QBs are there in the league that have won 2 superbowls? I want better than a Herschel Walker trade.

Walker wasn't damaged goods. Ben is carrying baggage right now and a lot of it.

Pappy

[steelblood]

Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

I'd trade him if we got a great return like 2 #1s from the Rams. I've never liked Ben personally, and now I will have trouble pulling for him. He has immense talent, but he is a horse's a$$.

Having to use the "$$" instead of esses is absolutely ironic (maybe) in this instance, if not ironic, it's certainly something I just can't think of the word right now. :P

Pappy

Shhh, or the hall monitor will tell on me.

[BlackJackGold]

Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

I know this, this guy had better be right because if he just threw something out there to "pile on" & it isn't true then Ben would have every right to sue him for libel. In a best case scenario I hope that McNulty is proved to be a flake & gives Ben some relief.

Oh, ben could sue.

Surely there is some lawyer out there who will be happy to take the case.

He will never win a libel suit though.

To do so he has to prove that his reputation has been permanently damaged by the source of the statements.

He'll never be able to prove that.

The only person who has damaged ben's rep, is ben.

[birtikidis]

Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

not only that, but don't you think that the lawyer may decide to tell the girl that hey, details are gonna come out about your case anyway, so we should just go ahead and press charges...

[pfelix73]

Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

No trade. I'd stand by Ben and help him however I could as an employer.

[Sugar]

Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

No trade, no way. With Ben we are potential SB contenders. Without Ben we are potential playoff contenders.

[ramblinjim]

Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

No...I wouldn't trade him.

Even if this third incident is true?? And if you still say "NO"...how many more would it take for you?? Just curious.

Huh? How are we supposed to know if this is true. So, if I say Ben raped me right now...does that make it a 4th? Dayum Ben is piling them up.

Ben raped Shawn!

BEN RAPED SHAWN!!!

Someone call ESPN (or at least Florio and TMZ)

Shawn's a gold digger, and that skirt was short!!
(it's been a long day, sorry Shawn)

[Steel Life]

Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

I know this, this guy had better be right because if he just threw something out there to "pile on" & it isn't true then Ben would have every right to sue him for libel. In a best case scenario I hope that McNulty is proved to be a flake & gives Ben some relief.

He's backpedaling fast from his comments isn't he?

[papillon]

Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

[quote=Steel Life]

I know this, this guy had better be right because if he just threw something out there to "pile on" & it isn't true then Ben would have every right to sue him for libel. In a best case scenario I hope that McNulty is proved to be a flake & gives Ben some relief.

He's backpedaling fast from his comments isn't he?[/quote:gr8n85zy]

My guess is that one Mr. Ed Garland made a phone call and began asking questions about the statements made on the radio. Manion didn't like where it was headed as it was a very unprofessional response to a situation that he wasn't even involved with and Garland reminded him of such.

It may not have been illegal, but it was rather seedy since he wasn't really involved and no one asked for his opinion, particularly in a public forum. The horse is out of the barn; I'm sure Manion wishes he had kept his mouth shut at this point. I have to believe that the BAR association can't be thrilled with this type of behavior. Calling Phillyesq, calling Phillyesq...

Pappy

[feltdizz]

Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

I would NEVER trade Ben until he is Favre status...

Hire a body guard for him for a few years and restructure his contract guidelines.

[grotonsteel]

Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

No way I would trade Big Ben. He is the best player on the team right now. QBs don't grow on a tree and Steelers have a bad reputation as far as QB position goes. I don't want to wait for 26 years to see another Steelers SB victory.