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  • SanAntonioSteelerFan
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    • May 2008
    • 8361

    The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

    Nobody's got the Crystal Ball, not even the Rooney's, so it's all playing the odds.

    Assuming the 4-game suspension rumors are true, that means we "lose him" for at most three quarters of a season.

    But, what do you think the chances are that he'll fail another drug test before too much of the season is over?

    If that's the case, he's gone for the whole year. At least. And I don't think chronic stoners give up the wacky weed even when their career is on the line. Look at Ricky Williams ...

    At this point I agree with the F.O. - ANYTHING, even a 5th rounder, is more valuable than a player who can't see the field because of a drug suspension. I think it's telling that there are reports that the Steelers have been shopping him around for weeks and no one else wanted him.

    If he stays clean - the Jets got a better deal. If he doesn't, we did. Will he stay clean - personally, I doubt it. I think the Jets are more likely to only get regrets from this move than Superbowls.


    Just my , to counter balance all the talk about how stupid the Rooney's and the front office are!


    We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

    HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!
  • Dee Dub
    Hall of Famer
    • Jan 2010
    • 4652

    #2
    Re: The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

    Agreed....and I personally think Mike Wallace turns out to be a better receiver than Santonio Holmes.
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    • frankthetank1
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 2755

      #3
      Re: The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

      Originally posted by Dee Dub
      Agreed....and I personally think Mike Wallace turns out to be a better receiver than Santonio Holmes.
      whoa turns out to be better? i would say he is already better than holmes. if wallace got the throws holmes did last season he would of had better numbers. if tone had the few passes thrown to him a game he would of had awful stats

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      • NJ-STEELER
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        • May 2008
        • 12563

        #4
        Re: The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

        i like wallace

        hoepfully he does as good going up against the other team's #1 CB.

        big difference then the 3rd/4th Cb's he faced last year

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        • frankthetank1
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 2755

          #5
          Re: The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

          Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
          i like wallace

          hoepfully he does as good going up against the other team's #1 CB.

          big difference then the 3rd/4th Cb's he faced last year
          if ben and wallace get better with timing on the deep routes there is no cb that can stay stride for stride with wallace.

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          • NJ-STEELER
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            • May 2008
            • 12563

            #6
            Re: The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

            c'mon

            i like the guy too, but lets relax a bit here

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            • frankthetank1
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 2755

              #7
              Re: The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

              Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
              c'mon

              i like the guy too, but lets relax a bit here
              well he did have the best rookie season of any steeler wr i have ever seen. he has better speed than tone and most wr's in the nfl. just about every deep pass that was thrown to him last season was under thrown or not thrown soon enough.

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              • Sugar
                Hall of Famer
                • Oct 2008
                • 3700

                #8
                Re: The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

                Originally posted by frankthetank1
                Originally posted by Dee Dub
                Agreed....and I personally think Mike Wallace turns out to be a better receiver than Santonio Holmes.
                whoa turns out to be better? i would say he is already better than holmes. if wallace got the throws holmes did last season he would of had better numbers. if tone had the few passes thrown to him a game he would of had awful stats
                Wow- have you guys been joining Holmes around a bowl or something? Wallace is OK and all. There is no reason to believe that he will be any more than competent as a #2 with better defenders covering him.

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                • frankthetank1
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 2755

                  #9
                  Re: The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

                  Originally posted by Sugar
                  Originally posted by frankthetank1
                  Originally posted by Dee Dub
                  Agreed....and I personally think Mike Wallace turns out to be a better receiver than Santonio Holmes.
                  whoa turns out to be better? i would say he is already better than holmes. if wallace got the throws holmes did last season he would of had better numbers. if tone had the few passes thrown to him a game he would of had awful stats
                  Wow- have you guys been joining Holmes around a bowl or something? Wallace is OK and all. There is no reason to believe that he will be any more than competent as a #2 with better defenders covering him.
                  he put up much better numbers than either ward or holmes their rookie seasons. for me that is reason enough to belive that wallace will be or is better than holmes. without holmes wallace will get double the throws which will equal double the production

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                  • Sugar
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 3700

                    #10
                    Re: The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

                    Originally posted by frankthetank1
                    Originally posted by Sugar
                    Originally posted by frankthetank1
                    Originally posted by Dee Dub
                    Agreed....and I personally think Mike Wallace turns out to be a better receiver than Santonio Holmes.
                    whoa turns out to be better? i would say he is already better than holmes. if wallace got the throws holmes did last season he would of had better numbers. if tone had the few passes thrown to him a game he would of had awful stats
                    Wow- have you guys been joining Holmes around a bowl or something? Wallace is OK and all. There is no reason to believe that he will be any more than competent as a #2 with better defenders covering him.
                    he put up much better numbers than either ward or holmes their rookie seasons. for me that is reason enough to belive that wallace will be or is better than holmes. without holmes wallace will get double the throws which will equal double the production
                    Um, the guy is being covered by the worst db's that could make the team. There is NO reason to believe that he will be able to be nearly as productive as a #2. In fact, part of the reason he may have put up the numbers he did was because of Holmes, the SB MVP from the prior year, who ended up with over 1200 yards. With no Holmes as a threat and an aging Ward, I won't be shocked if Wallace's production suffers.

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                    • calmkiller
                      Pro Bowler
                      • May 2008
                      • 1819

                      #11
                      Re: The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

                      Originally posted by frankthetank1
                      Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                      c'mon

                      i like the guy too, but lets relax a bit here
                      well he did have the best rookie season of any steeler wr i have ever seen. he has better speed than tone and most wr's in the nfl. just about every deep pass that was thrown to him last season was under thrown or not thrown soon enough.

                      Troy Edward had a pretty good rookie campaign too and we all know how that turned out...
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                      • frankthetank1
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 2755

                        #12
                        Re: The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

                        Originally posted by Sugar
                        Originally posted by frankthetank1
                        Originally posted by Sugar
                        Originally posted by frankthetank1
                        Originally posted by Dee Dub
                        Agreed....and I personally think Mike Wallace turns out to be a better receiver than Santonio Holmes.
                        whoa turns out to be better? i would say he is already better than holmes. if wallace got the throws holmes did last season he would of had better numbers. if tone had the few passes thrown to him a game he would of had awful stats
                        Wow- have you guys been joining Holmes around a bowl or something? Wallace is OK and all. There is no reason to believe that he will be any more than competent as a #2 with better defenders covering him.
                        he put up much better numbers than either ward or holmes their rookie seasons. for me that is reason enough to belive that wallace will be or is better than holmes. without holmes wallace will get double the throws which will equal double the production
                        Um, the guy is being covered by the worst db's that could make the team. There is NO reason to believe that he will be able to be nearly as productive as a #2. In fact, part of the reason he may have put up the numbers he did was because of Holmes, the SB MVP from the prior year, who ended up with over 1200 yards. With no Holmes as a threat and an aging Ward, I won't be shocked if Wallace's production suffers.
                        yeah its possible that he wont produce the same numbers even though he will get more passes thrown to him because he will be going up against better cb's. i think he will replace holmes without any problems and possibly put up better numbers than holmes. he is bigger, faster and has better hands than holmes. just my opinion. we will soon find out how he does against better cb's this season

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                        • Discipline of Steel
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 3882

                          #13
                          Re: The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

                          My opinion that his numbers improve as Ben's #2 WR and he may overtake Hines by the end of the year. He is a quality player.
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                          • Sugar
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 3700

                            #14
                            Re: The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

                            Originally posted by Discipline of Steel
                            My opinion that his numbers improve as Ben's #2 WR and he may overtake Hines by the end of the year. He is a quality player.
                            I really hope you're right, but there is no reason to believe that. There's something to be said for optimism, but the reality is that we just lost our best receiver today.

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                            • Discipline of Steel
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 3882

                              #15
                              Re: The other view - Could be a GREAT move getting rid of Stonio

                              Originally posted by Sugar
                              Originally posted by Discipline of Steel
                              My opinion that his numbers improve as Ben's #2 WR and he may overtake Hines by the end of the year. He is a quality player.
                              I really hope you're right, but there is no reason to believe that. There's something to be said for optimism, but the reality is that we just lost our best receiver today.
                              I predict Wallace will have better numbers than Holmes this year. One, Stonio is suspended for the first 4 games...and two, the Steelers passing game has more chemistry than the Jets and will put up better numbers overall.
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