Who's going to be our RG next year?

[birtikidis]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

and you can't seriously think that back up db is more important than a starting center....

[Discipline of Steel]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

and you can't seriously think that back up db is more important than a starting center....

I dont think replacing Hartwig is more of a priority than replacing Willie Gay in the starting lineup. Pass defense was a problem last year while our O rolled up the stats.

[birtikidis]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

and you can't seriously think that back up db is more important than a starting center....

I dont think replacing Hartwig is more of a priority than replacing Willie Gay in the starting lineup. Pass defense was a problem last year while our O rolled up the stats.

stats are meaningless. though I agree with Gay. but, don't we have two kids waiting in the wings. wasn't our two best defensive players out? imagine if our two best players were out on offense. don't you thnk not having the best safety in the game hurt us last year? replacing him with possibly the worst player in the NFL may have cotributed to our poor pass defense (i will always despise tyrone carter).

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

Ramon Foster wins the job and starts for the next 6-7 years.

i'm telling you guys, this kid can play.

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

i'm more interested to see bronco play at guard then i am Center. he's strong as an ox, wonder if he has the feet to play the position

what position did he play in college...more OG? no?

[Chadman]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

Just curious- why do we need to replace Gay, because he 'sucks', but we can still hold on to hope for the older, just as ineffective Trai Essex?

Gay was a second year player & a 1st year starter on a team that underperformed & suffered what added up to insurmountable injuries to key defensive players.

Yet Essex, who has been around a number of years, get's a 'there's still hope for him' tag.

Essex is, at best, a stop gap replacement for a game or two.

[birtikidis]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

Just curious- why do we need to replace Gay, because he 'sucks', but we can still hold on to hope for the older, just as ineffective Trai Essex?

Gay was a second year player & a 1st year starter on a team that underperformed & suffered what added up to insurmountable injuries to key defensive players.

Yet Essex, who has been around a number of years, get's a 'there's still hope for him' tag.

Essex is, at best, a stop gap replacement for a game or two.

umm i'd toss essex. let urbik and foster fight it out for RG.
I think an open competition for cb needs to take place. let Lewis, Burnett and Gay fight it out.

[pfelix73]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

Calling both Hartwig and Legursky turds is just laughable. Do you know that Legursky is one of the strongest if not THE stongest lineman on the team? His work ethic is superb. Essex is/was the same way and he's now starting at RG. Where do I get my info? Well, from Craig Wolfley and a few other local yocals. Again, the coaches know what they are doing. We have a young OL and it will only get better with more playing time. Not so sure I can say that about the DB situation where even Ike's contract is up soon too.

As far as the Chadman arguement- Well, all I know is we need play makers on defense. Not along the OL.

Please answer my ? IF you were the Steelers FO, and you drafted Iupati, who are you going to cut? Furthermore, there's no way Pouncey would beat out Hartwig at C in the 1st year. Let's please be realistic and put down those controls on the playstation.



Whoever said it- I agree about Foster- he may be the heir apparent at RG. He'll get to compete this summer, but Essex will have to get beaten out as its his job to lose.

[pfelix73]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

Those of you who haven't visited this thread, please do so:

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[pfelix73]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

"and you can't seriously think that back up db is more important than a starting center...."

Again, stuff like this is just laughable. Prove it!

So, your opinion is that Wilson would be a backup whereas Pouncey would start day 1. Prove it.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

IMHO, out of the group on the roster, by far it should be Ramon Foster. Actually Foster should start at RT and Colon should be bumped in to RG.

In 2007, with Foster at RT, the Vols QB attempted 519 pass attempts and was sacked 3 times.

Why move one of the better RT to guard? a position he has NEVER played. a position that coaches and scouts feel that he isn't suited for. a position that only arm chair quarterbacks on message boards even wants him to play.

Because he sucks at RT. Not sure where you are pulling the word 'better' from other than where the sun don't shine.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

The coaching staff knows their players the best- not us just because we watch a 16 game season. After all, they are the ones who get paid the bucks to evaluate their players 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

To bring this line of thinking onto a message board is ridiculous. Why even discuss anything regarding the Steelers then other than how the games go?

Can't discuss who we draft and can't be negative at all about it because heck, who are we because the coaches are the ones that know the best.

Why discuss the gameplans at all in any negative light because I mean the coaches are the ones watching all the film on the teams we play and they know better than us.

Why discuss when one player should start over another due to poor play or age cause the coaches know best.....come on man.

[pfelix73]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

Sorry, if you disagree. Guess that's why I stop posting on here right around this time of year. I'll just 'bite my lip' and shut the hell up then.

[NW Steeler]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

There still seems to be too much emphasis on how much our first round pick will play this year, or who he is going to replace. It's not realistic to expect anyone to play a lot in their rookie season. They will draft with the future in mind and I doubt they will worry about who they will have to cut.

[Steel Life]

Re: Who's going to be our RG next year?

I think the coaches liked what they saw from Foster & would give him the edge going to camp over Urbik & Essex...but they'll really hope Urbik steps up & probably would like to see Essex back to the swing spot.

But here's a thing or two to watch out for...

1. Jonathan Scott - Scott was brought here by the team on the advice of Kugler, who coached him in Buffalo. Scott was a premier OT prospect at Texas before falling prey to ego & sloppy habits. But after a couple of seasons, he's got his head on straight & a coach who believes in him...don't be surprised to see him give Colon a run for his money at RT or get a shot if the coaches move Willie inside.

2. Drafting Pouncey - One of the things heralded about Pouncey is that he could play OG. Is he better than any of our other options at that spot & does that cause a problem down the road if he plays there & then moves to center, delaying the development of a proper RG?