Head-to-Head Mock Drafts: 2 Selections for every team

[flippy]

Re: Head-to-Head Mock Drafts: 2 Selections for every team

No way this draft happens this way.

Thomas or Wilson are available 2 picks later in each draft and would be way better picks.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Head-to-Head Mock Drafts: 2 Selections for every team

I think that a strong OL makes a good D great, and the skill players on O special players.

Hopefully we do get a stronger more physical offensive line this year via draft... but how we go about it i don't know. Is Iupati and Pouncey the solution? I like both these players, but where do we select them ? Are they worth losing the pick of a playmaker in the DB or a future LB stud?

Take note according to this mock, look where they are both next selected Iupati (jets 29) and Pouncey ( indy 31). hmmm... 18 to 29 & 31 overdrafting?

I have been on the Thomas, Haden, Wilson, Weahterspoon, McClain, Oderick, Iupati, and Pouncey first round band wagon. Any of these picks I will be more than cool with. Even cooler with a game plan of selecting a (BPA) OL/DB or vice versa in the first 2 rounds please.

Is possible to pick Wilson at 18 and still trading up and get Iupati or Pauncey? What would it require us to move up into the end of round 1?

let's say we traded back into the end of the first round with the Saints who hold the #32 spot.

we would have to give up our 2nd (#52), 3rd (#82) and 5th (#151) round picks.

pretty steep, but might be worth it if a player we really love is still available.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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It's funny because on the Official Steelers board, the fans there seem to think that Pouncey is the knees of the bee. Some there have even said that the Steelers would be almost irresponsible with any other pick.

Here, nobody seems to want him- at least not that badly anyway.

I guess the FO won't be able to please everyone.

MaxAMillion has been calling himself Pounceyman on here for a while.

Personally, I would prefer to go elsewhere at #18 (Earl Thomas, if he were available, for example), then possibly package our 2nd and 3rd to get another guy that we really like who is expected to be available in the late-first, early second round area, such as Pouncey or Jared Odrick or Jerry Hughes, etc.

Hey RB, you might be able to watch Eric Berry every year when the Browns come to Pittsburgh...


Trade could clear way for Eric Berry to land with Browns

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 4, 2010


The Browns have spackled their hole at cornerback by acquiring Sheldon Brown, thus freeing the team up to draft Tennessee safety Eric Berry with the No. 7 overall pick.

That's the theory anyway.

The Akron Beacon-Journal and the Cleveland Plain-Dealer both think the Browns latest trade could have a ripple effect. There is growing chatter about Berry in Cleveland, and Terry Pluto writes the Browns should no longer feel pressure to take Florida cornerback Joe Haden that high.

We're not sure Haden ever had a real chance to be taken No. 7 overall, and it seems counterproductive to change any draft plans based on a 31-year-old cornerback like Brown.

Cleveland might just be the toughest team to project in the top ten because they have so many needs to fill. They just need impact players.

Berry, who is the highest touted safety to come out since Sean Taylor, fits that mold.

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That sure would suck. The guy I wanted us to draft last year (Alex Mack) ended up in Cleveland after they traded down time-after-time-after-time in the first round, so I would be royally ticked if "my guy" ends up as a Brown two years in a row.

There is a possibility that Cleveland could respond to the Shaun Rogers loaded-gun-in-the-airport situation (might face up to 18 months of prison time...and after the Plaxico sentencing, anything is possible) by taking Dan Williams (Mangini values a strong NT for his 3-4 defense...when he was with the Jets, he traded for Kris Jenkins).

There is also a possibly that K.C. or Seattle could take Berry before Cleveland has a shot at him, but I am still holding out hope that teams don't value safeties as much as other positions in the top 10, and he falls to #10, where we could possibly trade up for him. Stranger things have happened.

[flippy]

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If Berry drops to 5, I think we should see if we could somehow go up and get him.

How great would it be to trade 1 pick ahead of Mangini and take Berry right out from under him like he did to us with Revis?

The other reason I hope he drops is the further down he goes means the further down Earl potentially goes.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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If Berry drops to 5, I think we should see if we could somehow go up and get him.

How great would it be to trade 1 pick ahead of Mangini and take Berry right out from under him like he did to us with Revis?

The other reason I hope he drops is the further down he goes means the further down Earl potentially goes.

The #5 pick is worth 1700 points.

Our tradeable picks are worth 900, 380, 180, 62, 31, 17, and 3 (Total: 1573).

That might be close enough to able to get you to Seattle's pick at #6 worth 1600 points (it's still one spot ahead of Cleveland at #7), but no one since Ditka and the Saints has anyone traded away a pick in all 7 rounds to get one guy. Ain't happening. No way.

The only realistic trade-up scenario into the top 5 or 6 picks would involve our first round picks this year and next year, which even I (with the big-time man-crush on Berry) would not be willing to invest.

I think Berry only comes into play if he somehow drops to #10 because of teams undervaluing the safety position (and Jacksonville should be happy to move down in that case and re-coup the 2nd round pick they traded to New England last year). They want Tebow to sell tickets, and #10 is too early and their next pick in the 3rd round appears like it will be too late.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Head-to-Head Mock Drafts: 2 Selections for every team

It's funny because on the Official Steelers board, the fans there seem to think that Pouncey is the knees of the bee. Some there have even said that the Steelers would be almost irresponsible with any other pick.

Here, nobody seems to want him- at least not that badly anyway.

I guess the FO won't be able to please everyone.

MaxAMillion has been calling himself Pounceyman on here for a while.

Personally, I would prefer to go elsewhere at #18 (Earl Thomas, if he were available, for example), then possibly package our 2nd and 3rd to get another guy that we really like who is expected to be available in the late-first, early second round area, such as Pouncey or Jared Odrick or Jerry Hughes, etc.

Hey RB, you might be able to watch Eric Berry every year when the Browns come to Pittsburgh...


Trade could clear way for Eric Berry to land with Browns

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 4, 2010


The Browns have spackled their hole at cornerback by acquiring Sheldon Brown, thus freeing the team up to draft Tennessee safety Eric Berry with the No. 7 overall pick.

That's the theory anyway.

The Akron Beacon-Journal and the Cleveland Plain-Dealer both think the Browns latest trade could have a ripple effect. There is growing chatter about Berry in Cleveland, and Terry Pluto writes the Browns should no longer feel pressure to take Florida cornerback Joe Haden that high.

We're not sure Haden ever had a real chance to be taken No. 7 overall, and it seems counterproductive to change any draft plans based on a 31-year-old cornerback like Brown.

Cleveland might just be the toughest team to project in the top ten because they have so many needs to fill. They just need impact players.

Berry, who is the highest touted safety to come out since Sean Taylor, fits that mold.

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That sure would suck. The guy I wanted us to draft last year (Alex Mack) ended up in Cleveland after they traded down time-after-time-after-time in the first round, so I would be royally ticked if "my guy" ends up as a Brown two years in a row.

There is a possibility that Cleveland could respond to the Shaun Rogers loaded-gun-in-the-airport situation (might face up to 18 months of prison time...and after the Plaxico sentencing, anything is possible) by taking Dan Williams (Mangini values a strong NT for his 3-4 defense...when he was with the Jets, he traded for Kris Jenkins).

There is also a possibly that K.C. or Seattle could take Berry before Cleveland has a shot at him, but I am still holding out hope that teams don't value safeties as much as other positions in the top 10, and he falls to #10, where we could possibly trade up for him. Stranger things have happened.

a lot of smoke being blown right before the draft, here's a new one regarding the Browns -


Jared Odrick is the latest player connected to Browns

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 5, 2010


With most draft boards largely established, we've officially entered the silly season for NFL draft rumors. So keep this one in perspective.

The Cleveland Plain-Dealer cites a league source that the Browns are "right on" Penn State defensive lineman Jared Odrick as a potential pick at No. 7 overall. The intelligent, versatile lineman was originally pegged as a late first-round pick at best by the draftniks, but that always seemed too low.

Odrick is a tailor-made 3-4 defensive end known for his great work ethic. Guys like that don't fall far, even if they aren't flashy. Just ask Tyson Jackson.

Then again, this news may just be floated to counteract the growing Eric Berry chatter in Cleveland.

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