Polamalu comparisons could lift USC’s Mays

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Polamalu comparisons could lift USC’s Mays

I don't think Mays is the type you put on any team to build around (like Troy and Ed Reed), however if you put him in a situation like the Steelers, you'd get some big plays.

But how will he hold up if Troy is not playing along side him?

I think he'd turn into a Roy Williams by himself out there.

Taylor is as similar to Roy Williams,...as Troy is to Lethon Flowers. (Stop playing)

Taylor Mays, Roy Williams, and Lee Flowers are all safeties that could really lay the wood on someone (an excellent 8th man in the box), but none are the kind of guy that you want to rely on to cover someone downfield. Mays has raw straight-line speed, but not the hips that allow him a smooth change of direction, ball skills, instincts, etc. to be a complete safety (like Troy is, for instance). In the pass-happy NFL of today, coverage ability is the most important aspect of any DB's game (CB, SS, or FS) with other aspects such as an ability to support the run being a secondary bonus.

[url]http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010tmays.php[/url]

2010 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Taylor Mays

Taylor Mays, 6-4/225
Safety
USC

Taylor Mays Scouting Report
By Matt McGuire (Updated 10/26)

Extremely rare height and long arms
Tremendous bulk and strength
Athletic freak
Coordinated and can change directions quickly
Elite measurables
Physical nature
Big hitter
Deep closing speed
Good in run support
Eliminates space quickly
Experienced
Good durability

Weaknesses:
Takes false steps in coverage and poor angles
Lacks instincts
Zero ball skills
Not much of a playmaker
Poor tackling technique; throws body around without using arms/hands to wrap up
Hasn't improved his weaknesses going back to sophomore season
Occasionally not in position
Plays out of control
More of an athlete than a football player

Summary: Mays isn't a free safety at the next level; no chance he pans out there because he is horrible in coverage and has zero ball skills. Mays idea of playing football is running and throwing his body around, which is why I am giving him the nickname “The Trojan Torpedo.” I think Mays can start at strong safety for some team, but he will be pretty average. Mays is the Vernon Gholston of safety prospects. Sure he has great measurables, but so did Gholston. I personally wouldn't draft Mays in the top 40 picks, but his draft range is all over the board. He could go top five to a team like Oakland or he could fall to the lower part of the first round.

Player Comparison: Roy L. Williams. It's like someone cloned Roy Williams; Mays and Williams are the EXACT same player. Mays will struggle greatly in coverage at the next level, but he hits hard and is good in run support. Buyer beware.

I don't know if i'd quote Matt Mcguire of Walters as the most objective source when it comes to any Trojan Ruthless.

And again, i have to disagree with you in regards to any Taylor to Roy Williams or Lethon Flowers comparisons. Neither one of those guys ever at any point in their lives or in the best of their dreams possessed even half of the physical abilities that Taylor does. (especially speed or otherwise)

In a 3-4 zone blitz system,...with a front seven that handles the run well, where he would only be responsible for half of the field in coverage you would see just how effective Mays is against the pass.

All this "can't cover enforcer" nonsense was said about Troy as well. (which we have already gone over via links from the past and otherwise in different threads)

And he (Troy) has gone on to be one of the finest (if not the best) DB's in the league in terms of not only ball skills but in every aspect of the position.

I know Troy Polamalu. Troy Polamalu is a safety of mine. And Taylor Mays, sir, is no Troy Polamalu.



:P

[SteelCzar76]

Re: Polamalu comparisons could lift USC’s Mays

I don't think Mays is the type you put on any team to build around (like Troy and Ed Reed), however if you put him in a situation like the Steelers, you'd get some big plays.

But how will he hold up if Troy is not playing along side him?

I think he'd turn into a Roy Williams by himself out there.

Taylor is as similar to Roy Williams,...as Troy is to Lethon Flowers. (Stop playing)

Taylor Mays, Roy Williams, and Lee Flowers are all safeties that could really lay the wood on someone (an excellent 8th man in the box), but none are the kind of guy that you want to rely on to cover someone downfield. Mays has raw straight-line speed, but not the hips that allow him a smooth change of direction, ball skills, instincts, etc. to be a complete safety (like Troy is, for instance). In the pass-happy NFL of today, coverage ability is the most important aspect of any DB's game (CB, SS, or FS) with other aspects such as an ability to support the run being a secondary bonus.

[url]http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010tmays.php[/url]

2010 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Taylor Mays

Taylor Mays, 6-4/225
Safety
USC

Taylor Mays Scouting Report
By Matt McGuire (Updated 10/26)

Extremely rare height and long arms
Tremendous bulk and strength
Athletic freak
Coordinated and can change directions quickly
Elite measurables
Physical nature
Big hitter
Deep closing speed
Good in run support
Eliminates space quickly
Experienced
Good durability

Weaknesses:
Takes false steps in coverage and poor angles
Lacks instincts
Zero ball skills
Not much of a playmaker
Poor tackling technique; throws body around without using arms/hands to wrap up
Hasn't improved his weaknesses going back to sophomore season
Occasionally not in position
Plays out of control
More of an athlete than a football player

Summary: Mays isn't a free safety at the next level; no chance he pans out there because he is horrible in coverage and has zero ball skills. Mays idea of playing football is running and throwing his body around, which is why I am giving him the nickname “The Trojan Torpedo.” I think Mays can start at strong safety for some team, but he will be pretty average. Mays is the Vernon Gholston of safety prospects. Sure he has great measurables, but so did Gholston. I personally wouldn't draft Mays in the top 40 picks, but his draft range is all over the board. He could go top five to a team like Oakland or he could fall to the lower part of the first round.

Player Comparison: Roy L. Williams. It's like someone cloned Roy Williams; Mays and Williams are the EXACT same player. Mays will struggle greatly in coverage at the next level, but he hits hard and is good in run support. Buyer beware.

I don't know if i'd quote Matt Mcguire of Walters as the most objective source when it comes to any Trojan Ruthless.

And again, i have to disagree with you in regards to any Taylor to Roy Williams or Lethon Flowers comparisons. Neither one of those guys ever at any point in their lives or in the best of their dreams possessed even half of the physical abilities that Taylor does. (especially speed or otherwise)

In a 3-4 zone blitz system,...with a front seven that handles the run well, where he would only be responsible for half of the field in coverage you would see just how effective Mays is against the pass.

All this "can't cover enforcer" nonsense was said about Troy as well. (which we have already gone over via links from the past and otherwise in different threads)

And he (Troy) has gone on to be one of the finest (if not the best) DB's in the league in terms of not only ball skills but in every aspect of the position.

I know Troy Polamalu. Troy Polamalu is a safety of mine. And Taylor Mays, sir, is no Troy Polamalu.



:P

"No one can be Troy,...for he must be the greatest. But you'd be hard pressed to even suggest that most Trojans could become simply the latest." I must rumble Ruthless,.i must rumble. :P

[WoodleyofTroy]

Re: Polamalu comparisons could lift USC’s Mays

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin "does not like" USC S Taylor Mays as a draft prospect, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

Safeties have to cover in Tomlin's scheme. Mays isn't a good enough cover man to succeed, or enough of a play-maker to make up for his deficiencies against the pass. The Post-Gazette says Tomlin does like Virginia Tech SS Kam Chancellor, oddly. Chancellor is essentially a poor man's Mays.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Polamalu comparisons could lift USC’s Mays

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin "does not like" USC S Taylor Mays as a draft prospect, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

Safeties have to cover in Tomlin's scheme. Mays isn't a good enough cover man to succeed, or enough of a play-maker to make up for his deficiencies against the pass. The Post-Gazette says Tomlin does like Virginia Tech SS Kam Chancellor, oddly. Chancellor is essentially a poor man's Mays.

Crap. This probably means he does like Mays and is trying to pull a Revis switcheroo. Crap, Crap, Crap.

[SteelCzar76]

Re: Polamalu comparisons could lift USC’s Mays

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin "does not like" USC S Taylor Mays as a draft prospect, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

Safeties have to cover in Tomlin's scheme. Mays isn't a good enough cover man to succeed, or enough of a play-maker to make up for his deficiencies against the pass. The Post-Gazette says Tomlin does like Virginia Tech SS Kam Chancellor, oddly. Chancellor is essentially a poor man's Mays.

Crap. This probably means he does like Mays and is trying to pull a Revis switcheroo. Crap, Crap, Crap.

Ruthless you know that the 1st Rnd of the Draft much like life should never be Checkers. And if indeed Tomlin and the front office have decided to play Chess,...




"Zip it !" :P




Oh,..i mean,....uuuh,... "Mike Iupati, Earl Thomas, Sean Weatherspoon, Jared Odrick, Rolando Mcclain, CJ Spiller or Maurkice Pouncey in round one !! Woooo Hoooo !!!"