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  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
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    Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

    trade down with the Eagles at #24 (have to stay ahead of the Ravens at #25 who supposedly covet Wilson) and pick up an extra 3rd round draft choice while adding a very good young player to the competition at CB.



    Kyle Wilson solidifies stock with pro day

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 26, 2010


    We haven't heard a lot from Boise St. cornerback Kyle Wilson since his cover skills and his RV took the Senior Bowl by storm back in January.

    Wilson did not run at the Scouting Combine, but he's been called the second best cornerback on many draft rankings. Some teams may prefer him over Florida's Joe Haden.

    On Friday, Wilson affixed the corner piece to his draft puzzle. He ran a 4.47 and 4.43 in the forty, according to NFL's Gil Brandt. His other numbers were also excellent, including a 38-inch vertical jump and 10-foot, 2-inch broad jump.

    We'd be very surprised at this point if Wilson made it out of the first round.


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  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
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    Re: Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

    Steelers | Met with Kyle Wilson after workout

    Fri, 26 Mar 2010


    Aaron Wilson, of the National Football Post, reports the Pittsburgh Steelers met with Boise State CB Kyle Wilson after his Pro Day workout Friday, March 26.



    Read more: [url="http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#635039"]http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#635039[/url]#ixzz0jJqAqSHJ


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    • NJ-STEELER
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      • May 2008
      • 12563

      #3
      Re: Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

      if they like him a lot.

      just stay there and dont take the chance.


      it would be a lot easier for baltimore to move up to 23 then 17. dont want to see another revis scenario

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      • winwithd
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        • Nov 2009
        • 895

        #4
        Re: Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

        As I was thinking about the draft today I thought, ' I bet we trade down in the first and then trade some picks for a late first rounder and take Kyle Wilson and Jared Odrick back-to-back.'

        Then I got to thinking, 'Maybe we could package most of our remaining picks to move up into the end of the first round again and add Pouncey too.' That would be a great draft.

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        • Shawn
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          • Mar 2008
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          #5
          Re: Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

          Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
          if they like him a lot.

          just stay there and dont take the chance.


          it would be a lot easier for baltimore to move up to 23 then 17. dont want to see another revis scenario
          Agreed...I wouldn't trade down if we like him enough to draft him. The only way I would consider a trade down in this scenerio is if there were 3 guys we liked equally still there at 18. Lets say Odrick, Iupati, and Wilson are there and the Steelers like all three guys about the same it may be worth the risk.
          Trolls are people too.

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          • Steel Life
            Pro Bowler
            • May 2008
            • 1535

            #6
            Re: Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

            I'll go on record as saying I don't think he'd be a good fit as by most accounts he's not very physical & doesn't attack running plays that come in his direction. Considering our division...no thanks.
            It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust & sweat & blood...

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            • NJ-STEELER
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              • May 2008
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              #7
              Re: Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

              how about for a change we consider taking a corner that can freakin cover and worry about him improving in run support instead of taking guys that can support the run but cant catch a cold and leave receivers wide open


              just a thought

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              • SteelCzar76
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                • Mar 2009
                • 655

                #8
                Re: Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

                Dude,..quiet as kept,... many scouts will state "off of the record" that they consider Wilson to be at the very least on par with Haden.

                He will not make it to #24,....if you not only consider us, but the Texans, Titans and perhaps even a "shocker" selection by the Niners.

                And as far as him (Wilson) "struggling" in run support,... he's already better than William Gay in that respect. And along with being a superior player to Gay in terms of speed, strength, intelligence and ball skills,....well,... you do the math.
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                • Steel Life
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                  • May 2008
                  • 1535

                  #9
                  Re: Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

                  I know where you're coming from Czar, but he hasn't proven he better at anything yet & there are too many people saying he's not physical enough to not take it into consideration. And you don't "coach up" being physical - you either have it or you don't.
                  It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust & sweat & blood...

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                  • NJ-STEELER
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                    • May 2008
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                    #10
                    Re: Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

                    at the combine he had 25 reps, 2nd of all DBs more then DL mccoy and OT davis who outweighs him by 130LBS

                    here's a scouting report i found, who are these "many people" saying he's not physical enough

                    Weaknesses

                    Gambles some
                    May lack ideal height
                    Is better in man than zone, though that’s nitpicking

                    Strengths

                    Extremely quick
                    Great production
                    Excellent value as a return man
                    Can score on defense
                    Absolute playmaker
                    Great ball skills
                    Soft hands
                    Superb balance when playing the ball
                    Elite speed
                    Can run with any receiver
                    Excellent quickness on breaks
                    Very fluid hips
                    Opens up smoothly
                    Aggressive tackler in run support
                    Great upper body strength
                    Explosive player who can bring the wood
                    Intelligent
                    Confident corner and a leader

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                    • SteelCzar76
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                      • Mar 2009
                      • 655

                      #11
                      Re: Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

                      Originally posted by Steel Life
                      I know where you're coming from Czar, but he hasn't proven he better at anything yet & there are too many people saying he's not physical enough to not take it into consideration. And you don't "coach up" being physical - you either have it or you don't.
                      And i dig that Steel. I'm just saying that from what i've seen of this kid he's physical enough. Granted, he's not Rod Woodson, Mel or even Ike in terms of physicality,..but he's no "cupcake".

                      And given the upside that he (Wilson) has in terms of the aforementioned speed, intelligence, strength and ball skills, (along with his physicality against WR's in particular),....and IMHO he'd be an immediate upgrade over EVERY corner on our roster with the exception of Ike in terms of veteran savvy. (And he'd surpass him within three seasons)

                      But again,..that's just my opinion.
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                      • hawaiiansteel
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                        • May 2008
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                        Re: Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

                        Kyle Wilson runs 40-yard dash in 4.42 seconds;

                        "I know I'm as fast as they come"

                        Friday, 03/26/2010



                        Former Boise State cornerback Kyle Wilson ran the 40-yard dash in 4.42 seconds Friday at the Broncos' pro day.

                        That's slightly slower than Wilson expected, but plenty fast enough to keep him in line for a first-round selection in the NFL Draft. He also posted a 38-inch vertical jump, a personal best.

                        The scouts do their own timing, so there is some variety in the numbers. Wilson's two 40-yard-dash attempts were timed in as fast as 4.39 seconds and as slow as 4.47 seconds, according to different scouts and reports.

                        Wilson ran the 40 in 4.36 and 4.39 seconds last spring.

                        "I was happy how everything went," said Wilson, who is expected to land in the second half of the first round of the NFL Draft. "... I know I'm as fast as they come, so hey, I'll trust my speed vs. anybody."

                        The top 40-yard dash by a cornerback at the NFL Scouting Combine was 4.45 seconds. Six players had vertical jumps better than 38 inches, topped by a 44-inch leap by Fresno State's A.J. Jefferson.

                        Wilson said the hamstring injury that prevented him from running and jumping at the combine was not an issue Friday.

                        "I don't have any excuses," he said. "I trained hard, I was ready to go and I came out here and did my best."

                        Wilson's other results included 10 feet, 2 inches in the broad jump, 6.74 seconds in the three-cone drill, 4.02 seconds in the 20-yard shuttle and 11.4 seconds in the 60-yard shuttle. The best of those numbers is in the 20-yard shuttle, where Wilson would have ranked second at the combine. He would have tied for sixth in the three-cone drill.

                        The usual collection of NFL scouts was augmented by at least a handful of NFL defensive coordinators. Forty-four scouts and coaches attended the event, representing 28 teams. Seven to 10 coaches were in attendance, including the Philadelphia Eagles' defensive coordinator.

                        Wilson said he already has visits lined up to at least six NFL teams - Jacksonville (pick No. 10), Dallas (No. 27), Cleveland (Nos. 7 and 3, Pittsburgh (No. 1, Tennessee (No. 16) and St. Louis (Nos. 1 and 33).

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                        • NW Steeler
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1391

                          #13
                          Re: Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

                          It is hard to see what the Steelers are going to do in round #1. It seems like they will take the highest rated player outside of QB or TE. I think Wilson will be a good pick. At this point I don't see them picking ILB, OLB or S, not that they shouldn't. With Lewis and Burnett, will they pick a CB? Gay doesn't look very good and Ike has what, 1 more year on his contract? Looking at it that way, even if they are high on both Lewis and Burnett, they still need some players at CB. BPA at #18....but i still think it will be a CB or OG/OT.

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                          • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                            #14
                            Re: Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

                            Originally posted by NW Steeler
                            With Lewis and Burnett, will they pick a CB? Gay doesn't look very good and Ike has what, 1 more year on his contract? Looking at it that way, even if they are high on both Lewis and Burnett, they still need some players at CB. BPA at #18....but i still think it will be a CB or OG/OT.
                            Not to mention the departure of Deshea.
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                            • Shoe
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                              • May 2008
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                              #15
                              Re: Trade down in Round 1 and take Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?

                              Can Earl Thomas play CB? I like him, and I've come to appreciate how important it is to draft a CB (previously felt that DL/OL was our more pressing need.)

                              On a side note, I saw Joe Haden at McCarran Airport in Vegas last weekend. Dude is tiny.
                              I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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