Lamar Jackson

[NJ-STEELER]

Right, the Ravens were 9-7 when they drafted Jackson. He went to a winning team, Unlike Burrow, Allen and Herbert...the best young QB's. Their teams we bad for years. They transformed them. Jackson went to a good team, and while he not a bust, he isn't very good either.

it’s funny cause In their arguenent they tried to use that 5-11 season to show how much the team improved.

they’re right. Next 2 years they went 8-8 and 9-7.
4 game improvement ( get this) WITHOUT LAMAAR JACKSON
hahafaga.

As everyone can see it was clearly a team on the rise

[NJ-STEELER]

Its funny who you work and " attempt to spin things " for a Raven.

it is pretty pathetic. The new posters must think we have long time ravens fans on here.


case in point. It’s been explained many times on here how the ravens were 4-2 in the year Lamar took over.
then hit the roughest 3 game stretch of their schedule.
Pittsburgh, saint ( finished 13-3) and carlins ( 4-2 at the time .. 5/-2 after the win )

Jackson took over when the soft part of the schedule arrived.
He beat 1 team with a winning record iirc.
Also played the chargers locked into their playoff spot the 2nd t

[feltdizz]

it is pretty pathetic. The new posters must think we have long time ravens fans on here.


case in point. It’s been explained many times on here how the ravens were 4-2 in the year Lamar took over.
then hit the roughest 3 game stretch of their schedule.
Pittsburgh, saint ( finished 13-3) and carlins ( 4-2 at the time .. 5/-2 after the win )

Jackson took over when the soft part of the schedule arrived.
He beat 1 team with a winning record iirc.
Also played the chargers locked into their playoff spot the 2nd t

and then he went 14-2 the next year and was the MVP.

[Oviedo]

and then he went 14-2 the next year and was the MVP.

That's why the Ravens should sign him for $50-60M per year!!!!!!!!

[feltdizz]

That's why the Ravens should sign him for $50-60M per year!!!!!!!!

why stop at $60M? Give him $100M

[Joel Buchsbaum]

it’s funny cause In their arguenent they tried to use that 5-11 season to show how much the team improved.

they’re right. Next 2 years they went 8-8 and 9-7.
4 game improvement ( get this) WITHOUT LAMAAR JACKSON
hahafaga.

As everyone can see it was clearly a team on the rise

I know. It would appear that way. But we don't have Ravens fans... I think. The Chargers went from 5-11 season in a very competitive AFC West to 7-9 in 2020 and 9-8 in 2021. Thats a lot more wins since they drafted Herbert. It seems like any young QB mentioned who brought the team down from the dumps ( Bills, Chargers, Bengal's ) and make no mistake they were bad teams when they drafted their QB's has the Lamar Jackson fans worried. Look Jackson- he went to a good team and was put in their with good OL, a good defense, and great special teams. A good coach too. That's my point and is undeniable that Jackson unlike other young QB has won playoff game recently or at least moved their team past the Ravens at least currently record wise.

In my opinion Jackson isn't a good passer ( he's was rated 23rd last year ) and had the luxury of a good team around him, especially in his career. This year the Ravens led by Jackson will not make the playoffs or advance beyond game one of the playoffs. I offer a side bet for anyone who wants to take it here.

I think I'm done with the thread, at least for now.

[feltdizz]

I know. It would appear that way. But we don't have Ravens fans... I think. The Chargers went from 5-11 season in a very competitive AFC West to 7-9 in 2020 and 9-8 in 2021. Thats a lot more wins since they drafted Herbert. It seems like any young QB mentioned who brought the team down from the dumps ( Bills, Chargers, Bengal's ) and make no mistake they were bad teams when they drafted their QB's has the Lamar Jackson fans worried. Look Jackson- he went to a good team and was put in their with good OL, a good defense, and great special teams. A good coach too. That's my point and is undeniable that Jackson unlike other young QB has won playoff game recently or at least moved their team past the Ravens at least currently record wise.

In my opinion Jackson isn't a good passer ( he's was rated 23rd last year ) and had the luxury of a good team around him, especially in his career. This year the Ravens led by Jackson will not make the playoffs or advance beyond game one of the playoffs. I offer a side bet for anyone who wants to take it here.

I think I'm done with the thread, at least for now.

and wouldn’t acknowledging the Ravens having a good team be see as fandom if we were to use that silly logic?

Ravens have a good team
Ravens were trending up
Ravens were 4-2 at one point before a rough patch..

all those things are used against Lamar but as soon as someone says…

MVP
37-12
6-1 his first year

its “Oh you love Lamaaaaar” lmao. (Not you joel, this is something NJ tried to argue while he also compliments the Ravens staff and team).

Funny how winning 4 more games over a 2 year span is evidence of a team being good but Lamar being inserted and winning 5 more games in just one year is somehow fools gold.

but no, I would never bet or root for the Ravens to make the playoffs. I don’t want it to happen but I will acknowledge it if it does happen and won’t credit everyone except the guy who will probably be responsible for 60% of the offense.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

and wouldn’t acknowledging the Ravens having a good team be see as fandom if we were to use that silly logic?

Ravens have a good team
Ravens were trending up
Ravens were 4-2 at one point before a rough patch..

all those things are used against Lamar but as soon as someone says…

MVP
37-12
6-1 his first year

its “Oh you love Lamaaaaar” lmao. (Not you joel, this is something NJ tried to argue while he also compliments the Ravens staff and team).

Funny how winning 4 more games over a 2 year span is evidence of a team being good but Lamar being inserted and winning 5 more games in just one year is somehow fools gold.

but no, I would never bet or root for the Ravens to make the playoffs. I don’t want it to happen but I will acknowledge it if it does happen and won’t credit everyone except the guy who will probably be responsible for 60% of the offense.

Stop with the excuses and old news stats form 2018 season. The Ravens team is good, your can have a good record with a mediocre QB. How else to you explain them winning the super bowl before Jackson, and winning all those playoff games, something Jackson at 1-3 can't do. Was it Joe Flacco? I said I'm opting out if this thread at least for now.

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[feltdizz]

Stop with the excuses and old news stats form 2018 season. The Ravens team is good, your can have a good record with a mediocre QB. How else to you explain them winning the super bowl before Jackson, and winning all those playoff games, something Jackson at 1-3 can't do. Was it Joe Flacco? I said I'm opting out if this thread at least for now.

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“Stop making excuses and using old stats from 2018”

then immediately uses a SB win from 2013.

and yes, a lot of it was Joe Flacco when they won the SB. Dude had 11TD’s and 0 INT’s. He played insane during that playoff run.

Yeah, you need to stop posting in here and embarrassing yourself.

[NJ-STEELER]

and then he went 14-2 the next year and was the MVP.

coo

Can you do us a favor and post his stats to the at Pittsburgh game. Or the Seattle game (9-20 iirc)

I bet you won’t though. It will show exactly what we’re saying. He’s surrounded by a great team.
He had 4 games like that during the year

when it counted. He failed big time in the playoffs. A game where the team with the bye has a huge advantage

[Joel Buchsbaum]

“Stop making excuses and using old stats from 2018”

then immediately uses a SB win from 2013.

and yes, a lot of it was Joe Flacco when they won the SB. Dude had 11TD’s and 0 INT’s. He played insane during that playoff run.

Yeah, you need to stop posting in here and embarrassing yourself.

I'm done yet you keep typing. I read recently that you were banned in the past. I want to part of that.

Now I'll let you embarrassing yourself by replaying back to a poster opting out of a thread and failed miserably by acknowledging or address my multiple points. I am aware Jackson won the MVP award and the Ravens past records, okay? Got it. It was a while ago since Jackson won that award, we are in 2022 now. How he do last year and his lack of skills is the the point. The fact the he has been passed up by much younger QB's is also the point. He has not passed for a lot of years age has be been among the percentage of accrue leaders. Got it? I hope so, for your sake. He doesn't use his wr's as much as everyone else as make the tough passes his peers do with more frequency otherwise he had an even lower accuracy rate and throw more interceptions. His a sub par passer, that is a fact and I use all his years played to prove it. Regardless of how many games the Ravens have won during his tenure. Now goodbye and I hope I'm wrong and you aren't a Ravens fan, though you starting to make me wonder with this compulsive must reply and must defend Lamar Jackson attitude, but I do hope as Steeler fan that he adds to his losing playoff record our better yet the Ravens don't make the playoffs! They are a rivalry and a team I don't root for.

Do not reply back to me or by name in this thread, I'm asking for that.

[feltdizz]

I'm done yet you keep typing. I read recently that you were banned in the past. I want to part of that.

Now I'll let you embarrassing yourself by replaying back to a poster opting out of a thread and failed miserably by acknowledging or address my multiple points. I am aware Jackson won the MVP award and the Ravens past records, okay? Got it. It was a while ago since Jackson won that award, we are in 2022 now. How he do last year and his lack of skills is the the point. The fact the he has been passed up by much younger QB's is also the point. He has not passed for a lot of years age has be been among the percentage of accrue leaders. Got it? I hope so, for your sake. He doesn't use his wr's as much as everyone else as make the tough passes his peers do with more frequency otherwise he had an even lower accuracy rate and throw more interceptions. His a sub par passer, that is a fact and I use all his years played to prove it. Regardless of how many games the Ravens have won during his tenure. Now goodbye and I hope I'm wrong and you aren't a Ravens fan, though you starting to make me wonder with this compulsive must reply and must defend Lamar Jackson attitude, but I do hope as Steeler fan that he adds to his losing playoff record our better yet the Ravens don't make the playoffs! They are a rivalry and a team I don't root for.

Do not reply back to me or by name in this thread, I'm asking for that.

you don’t get to decide when a poster responds to you or when a thread ends.

If you are done, stop posting or start a blog if you want the last word.

I hope the Ravens miss the playoffs but if they make it, its just facts to point it out. It isn’t fandom or “ball washing”
as one poster likes to say. When Lamar starts losing more than he wins I won’t argue because its facts. The problem is when people try to tell the world a QB who is winning 75% of his games is a loser. That dog won’t hunt.

I also don’t give 2 craps if other QB’s are better than him. There are a lot of players in the NFL and its possible there are more than. few players who are good at their job. Non o that has anything to do with having to compete with the Ravens for a playoff spot.

Got it Joel??? lol

[Mr.wizard]

I'm done yet you keep typing. I read recently that you were banned in the past. I want to part of that.

Now I'll let you embarrassing yourself by replaying back to a poster opting out of a thread and failed miserably by acknowledging or address my multiple points. I am aware Jackson won the MVP award and the Ravens past records, okay? Got it. It was a while ago since Jackson won that award, we are in 2022 now. How he do last year and his lack of skills is the the point. The fact the he has been passed up by much younger QB's is also the point. He has not passed for a lot of years age has be been among the percentage of accrue leaders. Got it? I hope so, for your sake. He doesn't use his wr's as much as everyone else as make the tough passes his peers do with more frequency otherwise he had an even lower accuracy rate and throw more interceptions. His a sub par passer, that is a fact and I use all his years played to prove it. Regardless of how many games the Ravens have won during his tenure. Now goodbye and I hope I'm wrong and you aren't a Ravens fan, though you starting to make me wonder with this compulsive must reply and must defend Lamar Jackson attitude, but I do hope as Steeler fan that he adds to his losing playoff record our better yet the Ravens don't make the playoffs! They are a rivalry and a team I don't root for.

Do not reply back to me or by name in this thread, I'm asking for that.

Well lets see, Jackson has a career 98.1 passer rating. So it's not a fact that he is a sub par passer even in the year you claim he sooo bad it was 87.0 which also is not sub par. And i dont know why you insist on pointing to 2021, he only played 12 games!! By the way he won the MVP in 2019 that wasnt that long ago and im not sure that is supposed to be a negative, like winning only 1 MVP in your first 4 years somehow proves your point. Also writing an entire paragraph at feltdizz and then asking him not to reply to you is just cowardly, If you dont want responses from certain people then don't speak to them.

[Captain Lemming]

Jackson took over when the soft part of the schedule arrived......

Why?
If it just was an easy stretch, they would do just as well with QB who already won a SB why change? Why move up to draft a QB when your QB play is fine?

This is the deal. "I" am on record as not liking Lamar as a prospect. I have wavered him and thought in 2020 I was wrong. Now frankly, I'm not sure either way. I generally think QBs who's legs are their best attribute almost always have playoff level success. They win more than they lose. They DONT tend to win championships.
I said that and argued that point with Dizz when he was drafted.

So I am a middle ground.

Lamarr ABSOLUTELY is integral to the Ravens success. They are better than they otherwise would be. Run 1st types almost ALWAYS are able to lead teams to the playoffs. That is history.

However, I doubt based on the history I don't think he will ever win it all unless he can "pass" like he did before even when teams take away the middle, which people know now is what he likes.

[feltdizz]

Ravens owner is on record stating he thought about firing Hairball in 2017.

Not sure how anyone can state the Ravens were trending up simply because they won 9 games and missed the playoffs for the 3rd straight year and only made the playoff’s 1 time those last 5 years since the SB won.

Harbaugh is on the hot seat in a season that is now being viewed as playoffs-or-bust. Rapoport also added that there's some serious frustration with the direction of the team: The Ravens have lost three of four games since shooting out to a 3-1 start this season. That 1-3 stretch included a loss to the Browns who were being coached by a guy (Hue Jackson) who doesn't even have a job anymore. The idea of firing Harbaugh would have sounded preposterous just five years ago and that's because the Ravens were coming off a Super Bowl win in 2012. However, in the five seasons since then, the Ravens have made the playoffs just once. Things have been so bad lately that Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti actually thought about firing Harbaugh at the end of last season (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ravens-owner-considered-firing-john-harbaugh-refuses-to-issue-2018-ultimatum/).
"It was certainly a consideration, but not one that I was inclined to make this year," Bisciotti said back in February. "Certainly, it was a thought."