RuthlessBurgher's Initial Offseason Mock Draft 1.0 prior to the Super Bowl

[RuthlessBurgher]

You think we can find a crediable enough CB in the third round to start? In the third round?

Dude probably comes off the board in the top 15 picks overall if he doesn't tear his Achilles at his Pro Day. I see similarities to fellow Washington Husky CB Marcus Peters (2015 defensive rookie of the year) but without the baggage. Since he will now have to spend 2017 rehabbing the injury and likely won't see the field until 2018 (despite his proclamations otherwise), I think he drops down to the 3rd round, since teams tend to want their first two picks to be immediate contributors if at all possible (Dallas taking Jaylon Smith in early round 2 last season not withstanding). So, yeah...that's how I arrived at a credible enough CB to start in 2018 and beyond in the 3rd round of the 2017 draft.

[Real Deal Steel]

Dude probably comes off the board in the top 15 picks overall if he doesn't tear his Achilles at his Pro Day. I see similarities to fellow Washington Husky CB Marcus Peters (2015 defensive rookie of the year) but without the baggage. Since he will now have to spend 2017 rehabbing the injury and likely won't see the field until 2018 (despite his proclamations otherwise), I think he drops down to the 3rd round, since teams tend to want their first two picks to be immediate contributors if at all possible (Dallas taking Jaylon Smith in early round 2 last season not withstanding). So, yeah...that's how I arrived at a credible enough CB to start in 2018 and beyond in the 3rd round of the 2017 draft.

Oh, if we got him in the 3rd round, and he rehabbed a year, yeah he could be our starter opposite Burns ....in 2018! But I thought you were referring to getting another CB in the 3rd round who could be our starter opposite Burns THIS YEAR!

[Real Deal Steel]

What do you think we do THIS YEAR opposite Burns? Ross would be a great get for year 2018 and beyond but I'm worried about right now because Ben's window is right now.

[RuthlessBurgher]

What do you think we do THIS YEAR opposite Burns? Ross would be a great get for year 2018 and beyond but I'm worried about right now because Ben's window is right now.

Ross is the UW WR who broke the 40 record at the Combine...Jones is the UW CB who tore his Achilles at his Pro Day. Cockrell will start opposite Burns, plus we have Sensabaugh competing with Gay and Golson for slot corner. Even if we were able to get Sidney Jones for 2018 with one of our 2017 3rd round picks, we likely still would add to our 2017 CB completion by taking another CB with our picks in the first 4 rounds. It's a deep corner draft, so we might as well take advantage of that while we can.

[Real Deal Steel]

Hmmm. I'm not feeling as confident as you about taking cornerbacks late in the rounds. Colbert's track record is real bad when it comes to cornerbacks who pan out in those late rounds.

[phillyesq]

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Yup...and since we have two late 3rd round picks, I wouldn't mind using one of them to obtain our starting CB opposite Artie Burns for 2018 and beyond.

What is the track record on guys recovering from Achilles injuries? I'm trying to think of a corner or WR who has had one and come back. Is it typically a full recovery? I'm sure there are some, I can't can't think of any.

[RuthlessBurgher]

I'm keeping my Steeler mock the same, but updating my full first round mock. My first attempt at this had 2 QB's off the board in the first 3 picks, which I do not think will happen now.

1. CLE DE Myles Garrett
2. SF DE SolomonThomas
3. CHI DT JonathanAllen
4. JAX RB LeonardFournette
5. TEN S Jamal Adams
6. NYJ CB MarshonLattimore
7. LAC S MalikHooker
8. CAR DE DerekBarnett
9. CIN WR MikeWilliams
10. BUF CB MarlonHumphrey
11. NO DE TacoCharlton
12. CLE QB MitchellTrubisky
13. ARZ TE O.J.Howard
14. PHI RB DalvinCook
15. IND RB ChristianMcCaffrey
16. BAL LB ReubenFoster
17. WAS LB HaasonReddick
18. TEN WR CoreyDavis
19. TB S JabrillPeppers
20. DEN OT RyanRamczyk
21. DET DE CharlesHarris
22. MIA TE DavidNjoku
23. NYG OT GarrettBolles
24. OAK WR John Ross
25. HOU QB DeShoneKizer
26. SEA OT CamRobinson
27. KC QB DeshaunWatson
28. DAL LB TakkaristMcKinley
29. GB LB T.J. Watt
30. PIT LB ZachCunningham
31. ATL OG ForrestLamp
32. NO QB PatMahomes

[Real Deal Steel]

Ruth, I don't think 3 will go that early but I now beleive three will go in the first 13 picks.

I think Arizona is going to take a QB. Carson Palmer is running on fumes and they are going to need a new starter next year IMO. And depending on what happens in Washington and Houston, there very well could be 4 QB's that go in round one which is great for us. Pushing a great linebacker or cornerback down to us.

[RuthlessBurgher]

I'm keeping my Steeler mock the same, but updating my full first round mock. My first attempt at this had 2 QB's off the board in the first 3 picks, which I do not think will happen now.

1. CLE DE Myles Garrett
2. SF DE SolomonThomas
3. CHI DT JonathanAllen
4. JAX RB LeonardFournette
5. TEN S Jamal Adams
6. NYJ CB MarshonLattimore
7. LAC S MalikHooker
8. CAR DE DerekBarnett
9. CIN WR MikeWilliams
10. BUF CB MarlonHumphrey
11. NO DE TacoCharlton
12. CLE QB MitchellTrubisky
13. ARZ TE O.J.Howard
14. PHI RB DalvinCook
15. IND RB ChristianMcCaffrey
16. BAL LB ReubenFoster
17. WAS LB HaasonReddick
18. TEN WR CoreyDavis
19. TB S JabrillPeppers
20. DEN OT RyanRamczyk
21. DET DE CharlesHarris
22. MIA TE DavidNjoku
23. NYG OT GarrettBolles
24. OAK WR John Ross
25. HOU QB DeShoneKizer
26. SEA OT CamRobinson
27. KC QB DeshaunWatson
28. DAL LB TakkaristMcKinley
29. GB LB T.J. Watt
30. PIT LB ZachCunningham
31. ATL OG ForrestLamp
32. NO QB PatMahomes

Round Two:
33. CLE CB Gareon Conley
34. SF S Obi Melifonwu
35. JAX TE Evan Engram
36. CHI OT Taylor Moton
37. LAR WR Juju Smith-Schuster
38. LAC OG Dan Feeney
39. NYJ LB Carl Lawson
40. CAR CB Tre'Davious White
41. CIN DE Tim Williams
42. NO CB Chidobe Awuzie
43. PHI CB Cordrea Tankersley
44. BUF WR Zay Jones
45. ARZ QB Davis Webb
46. IND LB Jarrad Davis
47. BAL LB Tarrell Basham
48. MIN OG Dion Dawkins
49. WAS RB Alvin Kamara
50. TB CB Teez Tabor
51. DEN TE Adam Shaheen
52. CLE S Budda Baker
53. DET DT Malik McDowell
54. MIA DT Caleb Brantley
55. NYG TE Gerald Everett
56. OAK LB Duke Riley
57. HOU CB Fabian Moreau
58. SEA CB Kevin King
59. KC CB Quincy Wilson
60. DAL CB Adoree Jackson
61. GB LB Raekwon McMillan
62. PIT LB Jordan Willis
63. ATL DT Larry Ogunjobi
64. CAR OT Roderick Johnson

[steeler_george]

Hey Roth, and forum.... I see you have NO taking a qb, which is realistic. Do you think any team such as the Jets, SF, Browns are willing to leap frog the Saints to get their Qb? Would you pull the trigger in that trade? What do you think they would have to give up, their 2nd and 3rd or 4th?

[feltdizz]

Two linebackers? Ehh, I don't see that happening.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Two linebackers? Ehh, I don't see that happening.

It worked a decade ago in Tomlin's first draft as head coach with Timmons and Woodley.

Cunningham to replace Timmons and Willis as heir apparent to Harrison.

[steeler_george]

Two linebackers? Ehh, I don't see that happening.

Yeah I like that scenerio, just like how I like 2 DB, such as a combo of OBI, Awuzie, D King, josh jones.

[Real Deal Steel]

It worked a decade ago in Tomlin's first draft as head coach with Timmons and Woodley.

Cunningham to replace Timmons and Willis as heir apparent to Harrison.

we are in red alert need in our Linebacker corps so I wouldn't be surprised. I really wish we had two second round picks; but I should be thankful about our two third rounders. I really just want to adequately address the linebackers and add a quality cornerback.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Hey Roth, and forum.... I see you have NO taking a qb, which is realistic. Do you think any team such as the Jets, SF, Browns are willing to leap frog the Saints to get their Qb? Would you pull the trigger in that trade? What do you think they would have to give up, their 2nd and 3rd or 4th?

Pittburgh: 1.30 = 620
Cleveland: 2.33 + 5.175 + 6.188 = 619.6
San Francisco: 2.34 + 5.146 + 5.161 = 621
Jets: 2.39 + 3.107 + 5.150 = 621.4