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    Mason Rudolph is quietly gaining leverage against the Steelers

    Mason Rudolph is quietly gaining leverage against the Steelers

    Whether you like him or not, Mason Rudolph will receive a decent contract next offseason, from someone.

    By Michael_Beck@MichaelBeck56 Mar 9, 2021

    The future of the Steelers quarterback position is nothing but question marks. You may as well throw darts at a dart board when it come to making any predictions for 2022. On one hand, if Ben Roethlisberger proves he still has it he can sign another one year deal, they could shock the fan base and draft a quarterback this year, or someone completely different could be at the helm of the Steelers offense. The Steelers don’t have anyone under contract, and could have a clean slate at the position.

    As we stand here today, the most likely man for the job is Mason Rudolph. Taking a look at some of the facts, we will quickly see the top free agent quarterbacks next year are 45 year old Tom Brady, Marcus Mariota who could get a new contract this year, and Jeff Driskel. As for trade targets, I suppose Matt Ryan will be available, and who knows about Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson. Let’s also keep in mind the Steelers aren’t likely to start a rookie on day one either. They didn't with Ben Roethlisberger, so they wouldn't do it for someone apart of the weak 2022 quarterback class. As for Dwayne Haskins, I see him as nothing more than a camp arm much like Paxton Lynch. He needs to prove he can make the team first.

    For all the above reasons, I would strongly consider Rudolph to initially take the reigns from Roethlisberger. The problem is he doesn't have a contract. Let’s also remember he played very well in his previous two starts, and sitting for a year behind Roethlisberger keeps his stock moving in an upward direction. If he comes in for a clean up game at the end of the year again and preforms well, I would lock him in as the Steelers’ starting quarterback next year.

    Again, this is all under the assumption Roethlisberger hangs it up after this year.

    So, what do contracts for starting quarterbacks normally go for? The average contract value for the 32 highest paid quarterbacks is an average $20.8 million dollars per year. The lowest paid quarterbacks, not on their rookie deals, are Teddy Bridgewater ($21 Million), Marcus Mariota ($8.8 Million) and Nick Foles ($8 Million). But the most comparable deal is that to which of Jacoby Brisett, who went from unknown backup with a couple starts to the unquestioned starting quarterback of the Indianapolis Colts. The deal went as following two years, $30,000,000 contract with the Indianapolis Colts, including a $11,000,000 signing bonus, $20,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $15,000,000.

    I anticipate this is exactly what Rudolph’s camp will be looking for, and the Steelers really have no other leg to stand on. As the quarterback market has dried up around them, so has Rudolph’s future value to this team.

    They actually need him, quite badly.

    Unless the Steelers draft someone this year, Rudolph’s agent could probably get away with more money than $15,000,000 per year. The Steelers may even opt to use the transition tag on Rudolph as to not add anymore years to the deal. It would come at a cost of $21.7 million in 2022, but they can move on from Rudolph if he doesn't pan out.

    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...er-free-agency
    Steel Maniac predicted no RBs would be chosen in the 1st round, so of course we selected:

    1(24) Najee Harris RB Alabama


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    I think the Steelers would be smart to transition tag MR for '22 on what would essentially be a "show us" contract. If he performs they give him a 4 year deal, if not they move on.
    Taking pride in the fact that I'm right so often and he is wrong so often, that Steel Maniac has to have me on "Ignore"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    I think the Steelers would be smart to transition tag MR for '22 on what would essentially be a "show us" contract. If he performs they give him a 4 year deal, if not they move on.
    I fully agree with the transition tag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    I fully agree with the transition tag.
    For context, the transition tag for QBs this year is $21.7M (https://www.profootballnetwork.com/n...-how-it-works/)

    I like the idea of a 1 year contract if we extend him. But I think that's way to high (~ 10% of the cap).

    Maybe we'd do the "Colbert special" of 2 years where it's easy to cut him after year 1 if we want to.

    Based on his play as our starter he's pretty much a replacement level guy. It's not like he was outplaying other backup QBs that played in 2019. He also got replaced by Duck and only really got back in because Duck was also bad.

    QBs with cap hits > $20M in 2021 include.
    1. Matt Ryan ($41M)
    2. A Rodgers ($37M)
    3. R Wilson ($32M)
    4. K Cousins ($31M)
    5. R Tannehill ($29.5M)
    6. T Brady ($28.4M)
    7. J Goff ($28.2M)
    8. J Garoppolo ($26.4M)
    9. Ben ($25.9M)
    10. C Wentz ($25.4M)
    11. P Mahomes ($24.8M)
    12. T Bridgewater ($22.2M)
    13. D Prescott ($22.2M) <-- Not sure if this has been updated
    14. D Carr ($22.1)
    15. M Stafford ($20M)

    https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2021/


    I can't see how Mason would fit into that group. Everyone on that list has more experience starting and better experience starting.

    Maybe Marcus Mariota is something of a comp for Mason? He's on his second contract and has better to much better stats than Mason. He signed a 2 year $17.6M contract (total not per year). I wouldn't give Mason more than that (unless he gets a lot of time and looks good this season).
    Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 03-11-2021 at 03:52 PM.

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    Giving Rudolph that amount would be a disaster. Move up and draft a guy this year.
    Update:
    In the last decade, 25% of the league has won a super bowl(the Steelers aren't one of them) and now 50% have as many or more playoff wins as the Steelers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    Giving Rudolph that amount would be a disaster. Move up and draft a guy this year.
    I would move up and pick a QB in the next draft and not waste one year of his rookie contract.
    Steel Maniac predicted no RBs would be chosen in the 1st round, so of course we selected:

    1(24) Najee Harris RB Alabama


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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    Giving Rudolph that amount would be a disaster. Move up and draft a guy this year.
    I hope we don't waste a year of the rookie contract.

    Now that Ben's back, I think we push the rebuild at least one year.

    I'd let MR walk. Start Haskins (resigned as an erfa I think) and see if he can play. Pick up a scrap heap vet to compete


    I think the answer is probably not. So we'd have a high pick the next season.

    I would have rather been bad this year with MR, but been gets good last shot. And we get fresh ice on the cap after a down year.

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    The word is next years class blows. So either pull the trigger this year or go the next 4 with Rudolph, at big money, or some backup scrubs on the cheap.
    Update:
    In the last decade, 25% of the league has won a super bowl(the Steelers aren't one of them) and now 50% have as many or more playoff wins as the Steelers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    The word is next years class blows.
    not true.

    Sam Howell, Spencer Rattler, Kedon Slovis, Bo Nix and Tyler Shough are all very good QBs in the 2022 draft.
    Steel Maniac predicted no RBs would be chosen in the 1st round, so of course we selected:

    1(24) Najee Harris RB Alabama


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    If the Rooney's thought Rudolph was a starter he would be starting. They think he is a backup. The Steelers will never sell the farm for a QB trade. Remember Bobby Lane. Then they tried Woodley after the Marino miss. The Steelers will just bear the poor QB situation for as long as it takes to draft a new one. The Rooney's are old school(1933). The stadium is sold out forever why change.

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