Steelers "Ultimate in Mediocrity"

[NorthCoast]

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Are Steelers 'The Ultimate in Mediocrity'?

Browns Tracker
Story by Mike Fisher ? 8h ? 5 min read

AUG 8 MEDIOCRE How we define somebody else's "mediocrity'' depends a lot on ...

Our own perch.
To some, the Pittsburgh Steelers have epitomized consistency as a franchise. They've only had three head coaches since 1969, they've had no losing seasons since 2003, and they've got 15 playoff appearances since the turn of the millennium.
But ...
On ?First Things First,? Kevin Wildes went in on Pittsburgh?s fate this season.

?They have delivered mediocrity like no other team,? Wildes said. ?It?s a great franchise. Right there every year, .500! Haven?t won a playoff game in a long time.?

It's true that the Steelers haven?t won a playoff game ? or been past the Divisional Round ? since a 2016 trip to the AFC Championship Game. But insulting their overall achievements? That seems a bit "shock-jock'y'' ...
Especially to the Cleveland Browns, who would surely privately admit to just a bit of AFC North envy here.

https://x.com/FTFonFS1/status/1821310076411347376

[Mr.wizard]

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Are Steelers 'The Ultimate in Mediocrity'?

Browns Tracker
Story by Mike Fisher ? 8h ? 5 min read

AUG 8 MEDIOCRE How we define somebody else's "mediocrity'' depends a lot on ...

Our own perch.
To some, the Pittsburgh Steelers have epitomized consistency as a franchise. They've only had three head coaches since 1969, they've had no losing seasons since 2003, and they've got 15 playoff appearances since the turn of the millennium.
But ...
On ?First Things First,? Kevin Wildes went in on Pittsburgh?s fate this season.

?They have delivered mediocrity like no other team,? Wildes said. ?It?s a great franchise. Right there every year, .500! Haven?t won a playoff game in a long time.?

It's true that the Steelers haven?t won a playoff game ? or been past the Divisional Round ? since a 2016 trip to the AFC Championship Game. But insulting their overall achievements? That seems a bit "shock-jock'y'' ...
Especially to the Cleveland Browns, who would surely privately admit to just a bit of AFC North envy here.

https://x.com/FTFonFS1/status/1821310076411347376

Every year .500? I think we finished .500 once since 2016. Also the "no playoff wins in a long time" is a weird argument, since 2016 we made the playoffs 4 out of the 7 years. Let's say we won 1 playoff game in 2020, would that change this guys outlook? He'll we had a 13 win season in 2017 a 12 win season in 2020 and we had a 10 win season that could of been 12 last year if not for injuries. I don't know how you put that on par with the Patriots who had 4 wins last year.

[Oviedo]

This guys opinion matters why?

[WindyCitySteel]

Every year .500? I think we finished .500 once since 2016. Also the "no playoff wins in a long time" is a weird argument, since 2016 we made the playoffs 4 out of the 7 years. Let's say we won 1 playoff game in 2020, would that change this guys outlook? He'll we had a 13 win season in 2017 a 12 win season in 2020 and we had a 10 win season that could of been 12 last year if not for injuries. I don't know how you put that on par with the Patriots who had 4 wins last year.

Longest playoff win drought since the 1960s for the franchise. Last two berths courtesy of the league adding a 7th team. Blitzed out of the gate in recent playoff games.

It's a thing.

[Northern_Blitz]

I get the point here. And in today's NFL, I think that's probably the ceiling when you don't have an above average QB.

I think the Bills between Kelly and Allen were a better example of mediocrity. Because they pretty much never made the playoffs and were basically never bad enough to get a good pick. And that was a long stretch. This is the fear IMO.

I think we're somewhat better than that because we're making the playoffs (as heavy underdogs). But part of that is the intro of the 7th seed. I think we'll be in this rut until we find another above average QB. Hopefully one of the two on the roster now answer that call.

I'm glad that we were aggressive on the QB situation this offseason. I think the "normal" Steelers playbook would be to give the player more rope to hang with.

To me the best argument for firing / not extending Tomlin is / was that it gives the team a better chance of bottoming out and getting a high pedigree QB. Not a great rate of success for tanking. But maybe better than consistently being the 6th - 9th best team in the AFC?

[Mr.wizard]

Longest playoff win drought since the 1960s for the franchise. Last two berths courtesy of the league adding a 7th team. Blitzed out of the gate in recent playoff games.

It's a thing.

Again if we had won a playoff game in 2020 would you feel the same?

[Terrapin]

I've watched every season of Hard Knocks. Scene after scene of coaching staffs working all day and night, preparing. If the Steelers were ever on, HBO would have to set up a camera crew in Dino's, since that's where our coaches are by 5pm every day

[WindyCitySteel]

Again if we had won a playoff game in 2020 would you feel the same?

Yes, if Cleveland didn't come to our house without their head coach and 3/5 of their OL and beat us like a rented mule, things would be different.

But that didn't happen.

[NorthCoast]

Yes, if Cleveland didn't come to our house without their head coach and 3/5 of their OL and beat us like a rented mule, things would be different.

But that didn't happen.

Said many times before, the CLE playoff was a Tomlin coaching failure. The offense was awful, but Tomlin's specialty of defense didn't even show on the the day. Watt & Heyward, nowhere to be found.

[WindyCitySteel]

Said many times before, the CLE playoff was a Tomlin coaching failure. The offense was awful, but Tomlin's specialty of defense didn't even show on the the day. Watt & Heyward, nowhere to be found.

I remember after the season finale when we almost beat them with MR, Tomlin had a cheshire cat grin when asked about playing the Browns again the next week, as if he expected an easy game. That's how the team looked from the jump, like they prepared for a walkover.

[T.Ferguson]

Said many times before, the CLE playoff was a Tomlin coaching failure. The offense was awful, but Tomlin's specialty of defense didn't even show on the the day. Watt & Heyward, nowhere to be found.

How are the other playoff losses any different though? They are all pretty much identical imo. Team comes out looking unprepared and half asleep, no attention to details or gameplan, turnovers, bad defense, down big early. It's actually really strange, I can't think of any other team that has had that kind of playoff streak.

[NorthCoast]

How are the other playoff losses any different though? They are all pretty much identical imo. Team comes out looking unprepared and half asleep, no attention to details or gameplan, turnovers, bad defense, down big early. It's actually really strange, I can't think of any other team that has had that kind of playoff streak.

They are different because the defense against CLE was bad start to finish. And that was against their starting OL missing two or three starters. The other playoff losses the defense made plays but the offense could do nothing.

[trottierhop]

This guys opinion matters why?

It matters as much as your opinion or mine. Just because you perceive his opinion as negative doesn't mean it is isn't valid and vice versa with your opinion.

There are no right or wrong opinions in the present. They can only be confirmed into the future.

[WindyCitySteel]

How are the other playoff losses any different though? They are all pretty much identical imo. Team comes out looking unprepared and half asleep, no attention to details or gameplan, turnovers, bad defense, down big early. It's actually really strange, I can't think of any other team that has had that kind of playoff streak.

Because Tomlin's philosophy is to impose your will on your opponent, which doesn't work when other teams are good and scheme for you.

[T.Ferguson]

Because Tomlin's philosophy is to impose your will on your opponent, which doesn't work when other teams are good and scheme for you.

Pretty clear that Tomlin is not a value add to the team come playoff time, quite the opposite because of his stubbornness. It might be part arrogance ("I'm not the problem, the players just need to execute at a higher level" repeated ad nauseam) or maybe he's just incapable from an X's and O's standpoint, who knows.