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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
    • 27081

    #31
    Originally posted by pfelix73
    None of us know at this point, including the coaching staff, where the new 1st rounder will play. He may end up at G at some point. Or RT, but to speculate, that because he was picked as a OT, he may wind up elsewhere. Personally, I think he?s too short to play T in the NFL. Exactly why the draft pundits said he?s a G in the NFL. We?ll see.

    Maybe next year they will start drafting DL which we desperately need. Maybe 7 of them, or 3 and 4 more OT?s? Lol
    If he goes to RT then Jones goes to LT.

    I think you are right that Moore could start the season at LT but he will lose his job before the season ends.
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    • Buzz
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      • Dec 2017
      • 8234

      #32
      only way Tomlin gets fired is if the Rooneys sell the team

      not happening-- there is no real "hot seat"

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      • feltdizz
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        • May 2008
        • 27081

        #33
        Originally posted by Buzz
        only way Tomlin gets fired is if the Rooneys sell the team

        not happening-- there is no real "hot seat"
        it will be an agreement to step down. Not sure why people think Tomlin can coach forever.
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        • Oviedo
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          • May 2008
          • 23725

          #34
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          it will be an agreement to step down. Not sure why people think Tomlin can coach forever.
          Not sure why people think the grass is greener on the other side

          Of course Tomlin will leave eventually. However, Facts show that most coaching changes in the NFL are failures. What sets the Steelers apart is consistency and knowing you have a good thing…play the long game
          Last edited by Oviedo; 05-07-2024, 04:08 AM.
          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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          • The Man of Steel
            Pro Bowler
            • Dec 2009
            • 2197

            #35
            Willie Colon rehashing the losses to the sorry Patriots and Cardinals last season reminded me that Tomlin should be on a short leash going forward.
            Last edited by The Man of Steel; 05-07-2024, 03:39 PM.
            Obviously the standard is the standard.

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            • WindyCitySteel
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              • Nov 2011
              • 15360

              #36
              Originally posted by Oviedo
              Not sure why people think the grass is greener on the other side

              Of course Tomlin will leave eventually. However, Facts show that most coaching changes in the NFL are failures. What sets the Steelers apart is consistency and knowing you have a good thing?play the long game
              They pressured the four time Super Bowl winner ten years after the run to get rid of his staff, he was gone a couple years later. Same thing happened with Tomlin this year.

              He won't be in Pittsburgh in five years.

              "Having a good thing" used to mean competing for championships. Now it means cool cliches and backing into a newly created 7th playoff spot once in a while.
              Last edited by WindyCitySteel; 05-07-2024, 06:28 AM.

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              • feltdizz
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                • May 2008
                • 27081

                #37
                Originally posted by Oviedo
                Not sure why people think the grass is greener on the other side

                Of course Tomlin will leave eventually. However, Facts show that most coaching changes in the NFL are failures. What sets the Steelers apart is consistency and knowing you have a good thing…play the long game
                Its been almost 20 years and 7 years since we won a playoff game. How long do we want to play this game?

                and facts show when we change coaches good things happen.
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                • feltdizz
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                  • May 2008
                  • 27081

                  #38
                  Originally posted by The Man of Steel
                  Willie Colon rehashing the losses to the sorryass Patriots and Cardinals last season reminded that Tomlin really should be on short leash going forward.
                  yeah.. and some folks think this is all about Kenny with me but it was those 2 games that actually broke me. Not even 2 games, more like 2 half’s. AZ second half and Pats first half. Some if the worst defense ever played and the offense was just as bad with Mitch. Coaching matters.
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                  • WindyCitySteel
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                    • Nov 2011
                    • 15360

                    #39
                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    yeah.. and some folks think this is all about Kenny with me but it was those 2 games that actually broke me. Not even 2 games, more like 2 half’s. AZ second half and Pats first half. Some if the worst defense ever played and the offense was just as bad with Mitch. Coaching matters.
                    This has been a Tomlin Trademark over the years. If your calling card is motivation and you're not good at game planning, you don't get up for the 2-star matchups. You can tell watching the guys come out of the tunnel for these games that they're unprepared and unmotivated.

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                    • NorthCoast
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                      • Sep 2008
                      • 25860

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      Not sure why people think the grass is greener on the other side

                      Of course Tomlin will leave eventually. However, Facts show that most coaching changes in the NFL are failures. What sets the Steelers apart is consistency and knowing you have a good thing…play the long game
                      So when does a 'good thing' become not a good thing? This Steelers team is close to that point if they can't make the post season and get a win or two.

                      And I am not suggesting Tomlin will be fired. He just won't be asked to return with a new contract.

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                      • Northern_Blitz
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 23809

                        #41
                        Alex K said that the last 3 Tomlin contracts were signed:
                        • April (mid to late)
                        • July (mid)
                        • July (mid to late)


                        IIRC, last time (the April deal) there was some kind of option at play in the contract. Maybe that's why it happened earlier than the others?

                        So, I think we could only really start to think it's not going to happen if it gets to late July / early August.

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                        • Joel Buchsbaum
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                          • Jan 2021
                          • 7484

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Buzz
                          only way Tomlin gets fired is if the Rooneys sell the team

                          not happening-- there is no real "hot seat"
                          Rooney, if he doesn't extend Tomlin before camp starts and lets his contract expire, is risking Tomlin as a free agent at the minimum or telling him to hit the road after the season ends.

                          Of Course we can make the AFC championship game or the super bowl....I do not see it.

                          He should have acted and hired Harbaugh we he had the chance.
                          Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                          Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                          *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                          • Joel Buchsbaum
                            Legend
                            • Jan 2021
                            • 7484

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                            Alex K said that the last 3 Tomlin contracts were signed:
                            • April (mid to late)
                            • July (mid)
                            • July (mid to late)


                            IIRC, last time (the April deal) there was some kind of option at play in the contract. Maybe that's why it happened earlier than the others?

                            So, I think we could only really start to think it's not going to happen if it gets to late July / early August.
                            We they all signed when Tomlin was set to expire after the season ends? I recall Tomlin have two years left when he got a new deal. He is set to expire this year!

                            All signs point to a change. All ten fingers and toes crossed.
                            Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                            Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                            *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
                              • 27081

                              #44
                              Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                              This has been a Tomlin Trademark over the years. If your calling card is motivation and you're not good at game planning, you don't get up for the 2-star matchups. You can tell watching the guys come out of the tunnel for these games that they're unprepared and unmotivated.

                              https://www.yourcentralvalley.com/sp...ing-cardinals/
                              Yeah, unfortunately those who predicted it would happen were right and I finally had to admit Tomlin has a real problem with winning games vs these types of teams.

                              Seeing teams cure what lever sickness they have when they play us is frustrating.

                              Zappe hasn?t thrown a TD all year and then throws 2 or 3 in the first half vs our vaunted defense.

                              ?Team X hasn?t had a rushing TD all year? just means they will have 1 on the first drive vs us.
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                              • feltdizz
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                                • May 2008
                                • 27081

                                #45
                                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                                So when does a 'good thing' become not a good thing? This Steelers team is close to that point if they can't make the post season and get a win or two.

                                And I am not suggesting Tomlin will be fired. He just won't be asked to return with a new contract.
                                Ovie is arguing like Tomlin is struggling to get over the AFCCG hump.

                                I?m not ungrateful, I have been a huge supporter over the years but we have a streak of 7 years and that in itself is a long time.
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