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  • Joel Buchsbaum
    Legend
    • Jan 2021
    • 7370

    The trade that didn't happen

    The Steelers had trade offers to trade down for pick #20.

    Tomlin said NO WAY.

    The dolt. Does anyone know the offers?

    A 2nd , 3rd and 4th round pick plus say a 2nd in 2025 , in exchange for our 2024 first, would greatly benefit us. Use the trade chart if you must.
    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***
  • brothervad
    Pro Bowler
    • Dec 2008
    • 1910

    #2
    Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
    The Steelers had trade offers to trade down for pick #20.

    Tomlin said NO WAY.

    The dolt. Does anyone know the offers?

    A 2nd , 3rd and 4th round pick plus say a 2nd in 2025 , in exchange for our 2024 first, would greatly benefit us. Use the trade chart if you must.
    So your sig says 2024 draft is an "A" grade yet Tomlin is a dolt?

    So no knock on Kahn?

    Most here will tell you I am in the middle when it comes to Mike Tomlin.

    I get some folks are draft-niks, comes with the territory.

    But with Heyward and Watt aging I wouldn't say the decisions are that of a dolt.

    But that's just me...

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    • Captain Lemming
      Legend
      • Jun 2008
      • 15963

      #3
      Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
      The dolt. Does anyone know the offers?
      This is why people laugh at your stuff. You literally have NO IDEA what was actually offered and you IMAGINE some haul was offered to us to put someone in a bad light.

      For all we know it was similar to what we did to get Jones last season for a team that wanted Troy WHO WOULD BE THE HIGHEST PLAYER AVAILABLE ON MANY BOARDS.

      Wild speculation can go in either direction my friend.

      But while I cannot recall the last time your flavor of trade happened regardless of charts, we saw what I described LAST SEASON, therefore I would suggest my scenario is MUCH MORE likely.
      Last edited by Captain Lemming; 05-01-2024, 02:24 PM.
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      In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

      TCFCLTC-
      The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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      • Iron City Inc.
        Hall of Famer
        • Jun 2013
        • 3142

        #4
        I’m just glad we were patient and did not trade up for any of the first 4 picks.
        That decision to NOT give up draft capital was a real good decision imho.
        The entire draft think tank should get kudos for that.

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        • Buzz
          Legend
          • Dec 2017
          • 8187

          #5
          As good as this draft haul appears to have been, I'm gonna applaud Tomlin for staying put.

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          • hawaiiansteel
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 34753

            #6
            Originally posted by Buzz
            As good as this draft haul appears to have been, I'm gonna applaud Tomlin for staying put.

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 26989

              #7
              Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
              The Steelers had trade offers to trade down for pick #20.

              Tomlin said NO WAY.

              The dolt. Does anyone know the offers?

              A 2nd , 3rd and 4th round pick plus say a 2nd in 2025 , in exchange for our 2024 first, would greatly benefit us. Use the trade chart if you must.
              Draft gets an A but Tomlin is an idiot because you made up a draft haul?

              Get over yourself.
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • Flasteel
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 3885

                #8
                Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                The Steelers had trade offers to trade down for pick #20.

                Tomlin said NO WAY.

                The dolt. Does anyone know the offers?

                A 2nd , 3rd and 4th round pick plus say a 2nd in 2025 , in exchange for our 2024 first, would greatly benefit us. Use the trade chart if you must.
                You should seek therapeutic counseling. You may want to also thumb through the DSM and see how many pages you should dog-ear.
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                • Starlifter
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 5012

                  #9
                  they wanted to address the O-Line aggressively. I've been arguing for that for years. They wanted Fautanu and from what Omar said on McAfee today were even considering trading UP in the draft to make sure they got him - but a deal didn't materialize and they were thrilled he was still available at #20. So the idea they were going to trade down and risk not getting a potential starting tackle seems dubious.

                  I think the steelers addressed some real holes, definitely upgraded the roster and it's universally believed they scored an A+ on this draft.

                  so I'm not going to second guess what might have happened. I'm pretty stoked by what actually DID happen.
                  2014 MNF EXEC CHAMPION!!!

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                  • Joel Buchsbaum
                    Legend
                    • Jan 2021
                    • 7370

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
                    I’m just glad we were patient and did not trade up for any of the first 4 picks.
                    That decision to NOT give up draft capital was a real good decision imho.
                    The entire draft think tank should get kudos for that.
                    IMO, list the pick we gave up. You don't know what we said no to.
                    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                    • Joel Buchsbaum
                      Legend
                      • Jan 2021
                      • 7370

                      #11
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      Draft gets an A but Tomlin is an idiot because you made up a draft haul?

                      Get over yourself.
                      Tomlin's got a bad grade for not making the playoffs for oh the last seven years among other things. We had a good draft haul, yes I said so.

                      Apparently Tomlin ruled there shall be no trade down for pick #2
                      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 26989

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                        Tomlin's got a bad grade for not making the playoffs for oh the last seven years among other things. We had a good draft haul, yes I said so.

                        Apparently Tomlin ruled there shall be no trade down for pick #2
                        You lack consistency. If you graded B or B- then your gripe would be legit but you can’t grade a draft an A and then call the coach an idiot for not making moves in the draft.
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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 26989

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                          IMO, list the pick we gave up. You don't know what we said no to.
                          neither do you, yet you made up a draft haul out of thin air to get upset about.
                          Steelers 27
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                          • Joel Buchsbaum
                            Legend
                            • Jan 2021
                            • 7370

                            #14
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            neither do you, yet you made up a draft haul out of thin air to get upset about.
                            DUDE, Tomlin did not do the draft only voted the traded down. I give the steelers 2024 draft haul an A. I was upset that we had offers to trade down but did not take them. As stated we could have had several more high draft picks.

                            Do not get upset if the Steelers do not pick up Najee " slow poke " Harris option.

                            Some team to take him for us. I'll gladly take the draft pick .

                            The Steelers have until Thursday to decide whether to exercise the fifth-year option on Harris' contract that will ensure him a $6.97 million salary for the 2025 season. By exercising Harris' option, the Steelers not only will guarantee that salary, they will guarantee his $2.439 million for this season as well.
                            Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                            Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                            *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 26989

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                              DUDE, Tomlin did not do the draft only voted the traded down. I give the steelers 2024 draft haul an A. I was upset that we had offers to trade down but did not take them. As stated we could have had several more high draft picks.

                              Do not get upset if the Steelers do not pick up Najee " slow poke " Harris option.

                              Some team to take him for us. I'll gladly take the draft pick .
                              upset we didn?t take the offers yet grading the draft an A. That doesn?t make sense.

                              I understand being curious what the offer is but calling Tomlin a dolt while giving them an A is a contradiction.

                              Clearly you like that we didn?t trade down since you have the highest grade possible.

                              and I will be upset if we don’t give Najee a 5th year but I will get over it just like you got over not trading the farm to move up and get Bo Nix or paying Mason $20 Mill per season.
                              Last edited by feltdizz; 05-02-2024, 10:14 AM.
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