Round 3b-Peyton Wilson

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  • dreegking
    Backup
    • Jul 2012
    • 165

    #31
    Originally posted by Shawn
    When it comes to athleticism and talent he is a first round pick. To fall to 3b tells you how significant his injury history is. This is the type of pick that sounds amazing on paper because you see the 40 time, you see the tape. You hear from opposing coaches that he is just a beast to play against. But availability is the best ability. Based on pure talent I had Edgerrin Cooper ahead of him but not by much. It?s the injury history that really concerns me. If the Steelers can find creative ways to use him and keep him healthy then this could turn out to be the steal of the draft. But, I?m not holding my breathe on that one.
    Creative being a passing form linebacker. Which is what he’ll play as things sit with the current roster. That’s a decent protective measure allowing his body time to further heal up as he grows man bones in a matured frame.

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    • flippy
      Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 17088

      #32
      He played on the edge at times in college too. I wonder if he will get to rush off the edge as a pro?

      I think that could still be one of his most unique strengths.
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      • Iron City Inc.
        Hall of Famer
        • Jun 2013
        • 3142

        #33
        Originally posted by flippy
        He played on the edge at times in college too. I wonder if he will get to rush off the edge as a pro?

        I think that could still be one of his most unique strengths.
        I think we will absolutely see him rush off the edge. Walk him out in coverage and then let him use that speed n burst to pressure. Having a chess piece that can cover, rush , stack n shed, read keys quickly and is a sure tackler gives us a tactical advantage.

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        • Joel Buchsbaum
          Legend
          • Jan 2021
          • 7370

          #34
          Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
          I think we will absolutely see him rush off the edge. Walk him out in coverage and then let him use that speed n burst to pressure. Having a chess piece that can cover, rush , stack n shed, read keys quickly and is a sure tackler gives us a tactical advantage.
          +1. Wilson may be the missing piece for this defense since Shazier went down.
          Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

          Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

          *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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          • hawaiiansteel
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 34753

            #35
            Third-rounder Payton Wilson (ILB/N.C. State)

            One thing that really allowed Patrick Queen to ascend during the last year-and-a-half of his career with the Ravens was his increased usage in the blitz game.

            Via NextGen Stats, Queen led all linebackers with 20 quick pressures last season despite blitzing at just the 23rd-highest rate among LBs (minimum 500 snaps). Queen also generated a 25.5% pressure rate in 2023, the sixth-highest among linebackers (min. 50 pass rushes).

            Having Roquan Smith as a running partner certainly aided in that regard.

            Wilson is not going to be Smith. But if he can prove capable of getting reps in nickel situations with Queen, he may be able to patrol the middle of the field at the second level and allow Queen to attack the quarterback.

            Not to mention that Wilson is a pretty good blitzer himself.

            Wilson totaled 10.5 sacks during his last two years at N.C. State.

            We’ve spent a lot of time getting to know the Steelers’ new draft class based on how they performed at the college football level. But what will make them good fits in Pittsburgh, specifically with the current roster constructed as it is? Let’s go pick-by-pick with some subtleties and nuggets

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            • Captain Lemming
              Legend
              • Jun 2008
              • 15963

              #36
              Originally posted by whatever
              Yup.
              I guess I would have been okay with it in the 4th.
              Couple good cbs were there for the taking.
              Let?s see what happens tomorrow. Maybe they can make up for it.
              12 CBs were already drafted. Number 13 ain't likely to fix our secondary my friend. We can draft CB 13 or the most athletic AND prolific linebacker IN THE ENTIRE DRAFT. Once again you are prioritizing need over BPA. And doing that so late that he won't fill the hole you are looking to fill. We just drafted a guy with ELITE athleticism AND productivity and you want to draft a corner after HALF THE LEAGUE took one?

              Dont hate when the teams did EXACTLY what you advocated for YEARS.
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              In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

              TCFCLTC-
              The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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              • Captain Lemming
                Legend
                • Jun 2008
                • 15963

                #37
                Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                12 CBs were already drafted. Number 13 ain't likely to fix our secondary my friend. We can draft CB 13 or the most athletic AND prolific linebacker IN THE ENTIRE DRAFT. Once again you are prioritizing need over BPA. And doing that so late that he won't fill the hole you are looking to fill. We just drafted a guy with ELITE athleticism AND productivity and you want to draft a corner after HALF THE LEAGUE took one?

                Dont hate when the teams did EXACTLY what you advocated for YEARS.
                Dudes accolades:

                Chuck Bednarik Award (2023)
                Butkus Award (2023)
                Unanimous All-American (2023)
                ACC Defensive Player of the Year (2023)

                Has the highest RAS score I HAVE EVER SEEN in a player we drafted.

                Dude ran a 4.43 40 as a 6 foot 4 LINEBACKER.

                Faster than any 4th round CORNER we could have drafted instead of him.
                Last edited by Captain Lemming; 04-30-2024, 12:56 AM.
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                In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                TCFCLTC-
                The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                • WindyCitySteel
                  Legend
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 15035

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Shawn
                  When it comes to athleticism and talent he is a first round pick. To fall to 3b tells you how significant his injury history is. This is the type of pick that sounds amazing on paper because you see the 40 time, you see the tape. You hear from opposing coaches that he is just a beast to play against. But availability is the best ability. Based on pure talent I had Edgerrin Cooper ahead of him but not by much. It?s the injury history that really concerns me. If the Steelers can find creative ways to use him and keep him healthy then this could turn out to be the steal of the draft. But, I?m not holding my breathe on that one.
                  Games played by year: 11,11,2,11,12

                  Teams ran away from the missing ACL, like they did from Hines Ward for the same reason. Apparently it's not affecting him. The '21 season was lost to a shoulder, I believe, two full seasons since.

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                  • Chadman
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 6522

                    #39
                    At the end of the 3rd- he's a great risk to take.

                    In theory- he could be the best player the Steelers actually drafted this year.
                    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                    Light up the darkness.

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                    • "BuzzNuter"
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Mar 2019
                      • 1761

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                      Dudes accolades:

                      Chuck Bednarik Award (2023)
                      Butkus Award (2023)
                      Unanimous All-American (2023)
                      ACC Defensive Player of the Year (2023)

                      Has the highest RAS score I HAVE EVER SEEN in a player we drafted.

                      Dude ran a 4.43 40 as a 6 foot 4 LINEBACKER.

                      Faster than any 4th round CORNER we could have drafted instead of him.
                      Amazing isn't it, 6ft. 4in, 240 lbs and runs a 4.4 forty. Bigger then Shazier and almost as fast.

                      This could be one of those great Steeler draft picks that changes our defense or he could get hurt and be a bust. That's why he went in the 4th.

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                      • WindyCitySteel
                        Legend
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 15035

                        #41
                        Another reason for the drop -- he's already 24. Not a big deal to me if he can play right away, get 6-7 years out of him and it's a great pick.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 34753

                          #42
                          Payton Wilson's fall in the 2024 NFL Draft, explained

                          One of college football's best linebackers had to wait a while to hear his name called

                          Apr 27, 2024

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                          • Captain Lemming
                            Legend
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 15963

                            #43
                            Originally posted by "BuzzNuter"
                            Amazing isn't it, 6ft. 4in, 240 lbs and runs a 4.4 forty. Bigger then Shazier and almost as fast.

                            This could be one of those great Steeler draft picks that changes our defense or he could get hurt and be a bust. That's why he went in the 4th.
                            I certainly understand why he dropped. Just silly to suggest it is crazy to take him over the 13th corner.

                            whisper is suggesting we draft for NEED.
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                            In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                            TCFCLTC-
                            The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                            • Shawn
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 15129

                              #44
                              I think this was a solid value pick. High risk, high reward type of player. But at 3b I?ll take that risk. Hes a very good Lbr but a LBr with shoulder issues missing an ACL? That?s rough.
                              Trolls are people too.

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                              • Joel Buchsbaum
                                Legend
                                • Jan 2021
                                • 7370

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Shawn
                                I think this was a solid value pick. High risk, high reward type of player. But at 3b I?ll take that risk. Hes a very good Lbr but a LBr with shoulder issues missing an ACL? That?s rough.
                                Hines Ward did not have an ACL.
                                Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                                Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                                *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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