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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
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    Warren Sharp says Steelers have hardest schedule in 2024

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  • Buzz
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    • Dec 2017
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    #2
    How is it the Bengals get such an easier schedule than the rest of the AFC North? Their out of division slate must be a cakewalk

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    • feltdizz
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      • May 2008
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      #3
      Originally posted by Buzz
      How is it the Bengals get such an easier schedule than the rest of the AFC North? Their out of division slate must be a cakewalk
      Pitt for missing the playoffs and losing Joe Brrrrr

      gotta try and see if they can get him back in the mix this year. Its all about the ratings.
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      • WindyCitySteel
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        • Nov 2011
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        #4
        Calculating expected win totals based on your opponents' expected win totals seems...circular. Like saying after week 1, all the undefeated teams have played weak schedules because they all beat winless teams.

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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
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          #5
          Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
          Calculating expected win totals based on your opponents' expected win totals seems...circular. Like saying after week 1, all the undefeated teams have played weak schedules because they all beat winless teams.
          We have no idea if it will hold true because teams change every year. Sometimes it does… most times it doesn’t.
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          • Flasteel
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            • May 2008
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            #6
            How does the third place team from the AFC North have a harder schedule than the second and first place teams? Is it because the Steelers have to play the Browns and Ravens while both of those teams have to play each other and Pittsburgh? That still doesn't seem right.

            Whatever. At the end of the day, these strength of schedule predictions in April are an exercise in near-meaningless speculation.
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            • Ghost
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              • May 2008
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              #7
              Maybe it’s just me, but my first reaction to this post was, who the F cares what Warren Sapp thinks….
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              • NorthCoast
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                • Sep 2008
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                #8
                Sharp posted his analysis of his method. Contrary to popular belief Vegas is usually very good at predicting win totals. Vegas is a forward looking industry so it is a much better metric than using last season's win totals.

                Think about it. Betting lines are highly influenced by the betting public. This 'public' consists of rabid fans who follow their team's every move. No different than fans on this board claiming the Steelers are better than the 7.5 wins Vegas set.

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                • Flasteel
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                  • May 2008
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by NorthCoast
                  Sharp posted his analysis of his method. Contrary to popular belief Vegas is usually very good at predicting win totals. Vegas is a forward looking industry so it is a much better metric than using last season's win totals.

                  Think about it. Betting lines are highly influenced by the betting public. This 'public' consists of rabid fans who follow their team's every move. No different than fans on this board claiming the Steelers are better than the 7.5 wins Vegas set.
                  That helps explain it then. Thanks NC!
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                  • Joel Buchsbaum
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by NorthCoast
                    Sharp posted his analysis of his method. Contrary to popular belief Vegas is usually very good at predicting win totals. Vegas is a forward looking industry so it is a much better metric than using last season's win totals.

                    Think about it. Betting lines are highly influenced by the betting public. This 'public' consists of rabid fans who follow their team's every move. No different than fans on this board claiming the Steelers are better than the 7.5 wins Vegas set.
                    It not all about the wins and looses of you opponents. Rather who many Grade A and Grade D and F teams you play. ie, the tough games to win, and the very easy ones.

                    Last year we had quite a few easy ones
                    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                    • WindyCitySteel
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                      • Nov 2011
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by NorthCoast
                      Sharp posted his analysis of his method. Contrary to popular belief Vegas is usually very good at predicting win totals. Vegas is a forward looking industry so it is a much better metric than using last season's win totals.

                      Think about it. Betting lines are highly influenced by the betting public. This 'public' consists of rabid fans who follow their team's every move. No different than fans on this board claiming the Steelers are better than the 7.5 wins Vegas set.
                      I agree it's better than using last year's results, teams change, injuries occur, players heal, etc.

                      I wonder if all the wins and losses add up -- i.e. do they go through every game and pick a winner, or just predict a win total for each.

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                      • NorthCoast
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                        • Sep 2008
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum

                        Last year we had quite a few easy ones
                        You mean the ones where they lost to 2 win teams.

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                        • feltdizz
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                          • May 2008
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by NorthCoast
                          You mean the ones where they lost to 2 win teams.
                          lmao.. I turned on Tomlin after those games. It was mostly the first half of the Pats game that made me think it was time for Tomlin to go. A pathetic display on defense vs a very bad offense.
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                          • Northern_Blitz
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                            • Dec 2008
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                            #14
                            Strength of schedule is not useless. It gives you some idea of how hard it will be.

                            At this point in the year, I'd imagine that lines for how many games a team wins are 98% driven by who the QB is.

                            And since we play the AFCN (2 very good QBs), the AFCW (best QB in the league + good up and coming QB), and the NFCE (probably has the 2 best NFC QBs) we'll have a hard looking schedule. That's 8 games against QBs that are probably top 8-10 QBs in the league.

                            And Mahomes, Burrow, and Lamar are probably all top 5 guys and that's 5 games.

                            In real time, how hard a game is depends a lot on how you match up and what the injury situations are. But this looks like it will be a tougher season than last year if the opposing QBs stay healthy.

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                            • BURGH86STEEL
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                              • May 2008
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              We have no idea if it will hold true because teams change every year. Sometimes it does? most times it doesn?t.
                              This is a fact. My simple reply is that there are not any easy schedules in the NFL.

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