Eagles fans on Pickett acquisition

[WindyCitySteel]

From the Endowment Effect files, now that he's their guy, he's all that. One reply even references that he's escaped "crazy town", aka the Steelers.

https://x.com/TheSwoopScoops/status/1769711103112523975?s=20

[feltdizz]

Not surprised fans use highlights to wonder if a player can reach his potential with a mew team.

We are doing the same thing with Fields and Russ.

I do want to see if Hurts sits in preseason and they lat Kenny sling it with AJ Brown and the first team for a game.

I still believe we screwed this up with Canada at OC for 23 of his 25 starts.

[Northern_Blitz]

From the Endowment Effect files, now that he's their guy, he's all that. One reply even references that he's escaped "crazy town", aka the Steelers.

https://x.com/TheSwoopScoops/status/...112523975?s=20

Yep.

We are probably doing the same with Wilson, Fields, and Queen.

There is something exciting about a shiny new toy.

And to be fair, I think Pickett probably is going to be a pretty good backup. So for PHI to look at it as: We got this guy who's going to be a good backup for the equivalent of a 4th round pick.

I think that's kind of a lower key version of us saying that we're really excited about Wilson because he can probably be something like an average starting QB when we aren't paying him anything.

We view Pickett differently because the initial expectations were much higher than "probably a good backup". Denver must view Wilson differently because the acquisition cost and expectations were sky high.

[Oviedo]

LOL...sure Eagles fans will be so supportive of Pickett...as long as he is on the bench and never plays. If he plays and makes the same mistakes as in Pittsburgh, they will crucify him and he'll melt under the pressure.

Philadelphia doesn't have the built in Pitt alumni base that Pittsburgh does, so he won't get the benefit of the doubt or fans making excuses for his subpar performances.

[Oviedo]

Not surprised fans use highlights to wonder if a player can reach his potential with a mew team.

We are doing the same thing with Fields and Russ.

I do want to see if Hurts sits in preseason and they lat Kenny sling it with AJ Brown and the first team for a game.

I still believe we screwed this up with Canada at OC for 23 of his 25 starts.

It wasn't all Canada. Pickett was a bad evaluation and bad pick. He was mediocre at best and the team management and his teammates had no faith in him. They saw him close up every day and several actively recruited someone to take his job

You have legit NFL QBs and you have good college QBs playing in the NFL...Pickett is squarely in the latter category.

[feltdizz]

Yep.

We are probably doing the same with Wilson, Fields, and Queen.

There is something exciting about a shiny new toy.

And to be fair, I think Pickett probably is going to be a pretty good backup. So for PHI to look at it as: We got this guy who's going to be a good backup for the equivalent of a 4th round pick.

I think that's kind of a lower key version of us saying that we're really excited about Wilson because he can probably be something like an average starting QB when we aren't paying him anything.

We view Pickett differently because the initial expectations were much higher than "probably a good backup". Denver must view Wilson differently because the acquisition cost and expectations were sky high.

Exactly, we are all hoping a new team willmake these players better..

them you have fans of the old team like Ovi who swear it will never happen because the last thing we want to see is a player pan out elsewhere.

I know a Seattle fan who has enjoyed seeing Russ fail in Denver and told everyone it would happen. I hope he is dead wrong and I get to rub it in his face when his career is resurrected in Pittsburgh

[feltdizz]

It wasn't all Canada. Pickett was a bad evaluation and bad pick. He was mediocre at best and the team management and his teammates had no faith in him. They saw him close up every day and several actively recruited someone to take his job

You have legit NFL QBs and you have good college QBs playing in the NFL...Pickett is squarely in the latter category.

I never said it was all Canada.

But I guarantee you will never see Canada in the NFL again unless he buys a ticket. He might struggle to get a gig in college.

[WindyCitySteel]

Scheme and system are very important, but at some point you have to rise above it and make plays. Fields has been in a terrible one without a great supporting cast, but still looks the part at some point in most games, he's just really inconsistent.

This is franchise QB stuff here:

https://twitter.com/PFF_Steelers/status/1769728494424969370

[Northern_Blitz]

It wasn't all Canada. Pickett was a bad evaluation and bad pick. He was mediocre at best and the team management and his teammates had no faith in him. They saw him close up every day and several actively recruited someone to take his job

You have legit NFL QBs and you have good college QBs playing in the NFL...Pickett is squarely in the latter category.

I think you can have a reasonable pick that doesn't work out.

Given the circumstances we were in when we made the pick, I think it was reasonable to take KP. I just don't think anyone is good at scouting QBs.

[brothervad]

All this discussion about KP for me is sort of irrelevant at this point.

We are going to find out...and no I don't mean he will supplant Hurts. But Nick Sirrianni, unlike Canada, is the real deal. He has the bona fides of working as an NFL QB coach, OC and has been successful at it.

So wherever you sit KP sucks, never got a shot, or is gonna be a solid backup we will find out soon enough. He will see some playing time I am almost certain.

For me, and this isn't my bias speaking (UPITT Alum), he didn't get a fair shot, but I got news for you, neither did Mason Rudolph. Pretty hard to build a QB when you have a HOF around. The focus was never about grooming Rudolph, it was about getting another shot before Big Ben rode off into the sunset.

The Steelers prior to this year (fingers crossed), have been historically bad at investing in coaching depth/quality. I wish KP would've succeeded here, but I think he has a better chance if he is to succeed to do it elsewhere.

Odds are right now he is likely to be a journeyman backup, but at this point I just don't know.

Brothervad

[Shawn]

It wasn't all Canada. Pickett was a bad evaluation and bad pick. He was mediocre at best and the team management and his teammates had no faith in him. They saw him close up every day and several actively recruited someone to take his job

You have legit NFL QBs and you have good college QBs playing in the NFL...Pickett is squarely in the latter category.

Feels like the Twilight Zone. When did you and I start agreeing on Steeler football? I agree. KP was a one season wondering after struggling most of his college career. Whoever scouted him for the Steelers needs to be fired. Yeah he will make a capable back up. But first round build your franchise around him? Nah. You can find KPs in every draft in rounds 3-5.

[feltdizz]

Scheme and system are very important, but at some point you have to rise above it and make plays. Fields has been in a terrible one without a great supporting cast, but still looks the part at some point in most games, he's just really inconsistent.

This is franchise QB stuff here:

https://twitter.com/PFF_Steelers/sta...28494424969370

sounds like Pickett late in games in the hurry up.

When Canada had less influence, he played better.

but again, its over now, hopefully Fieods can look like the QB who torched Clemson in the BCS playoffs. That man balled out with bad ribs and outplayed Trevor Lawrence.

[feltdizz]

All this discussion about KP for me is sort of irrelevant at this point.

We are going to find out...and no I don't mean he will supplant Hurts. But Nick Sirrianni, unlike Canada, is the real deal. He has the bona fides of working as an NFL QB coach, OC and has been successful at it.

So wherever you sit KP sucks, never got a shot, or is gonna be a solid backup we will find out soon enough. He will see some playing time I am almost certain.

For me, and this isn't my bias speaking (UPITT Alum), he didn't get a fair shot, but I got news for you, neither did Mason Rudolph. Pretty hard to build a QB when you have a HOF around. The focus was never about grooming Rudolph, it was about getting another shot before Big Ben rode off into the sunset.

The Steelers prior to this year (fingers crossed), have been historically bad at investing in coaching depth/quality. I wish KP would've succeeded here, but I think he has a better chance if he is to succeed to do it elsewhere.

Odds are right now he is likely to be a journeyman backup, but at this point I just don't know.

Brothervad

Yeah.. we only got a game and a half without Canada but it was still his playbook.

We will find out soon enough.

Same could happen with Fields and a better supporting cast.

[Northern_Blitz]

All this discussion about KP for me is sort of irrelevant at this point.

We are going to find out...and no I don't mean he will supplant Hurts. But Nick Sirrianni, unlike Canada, is the real deal. He has the bona fides of working as an NFL QB coach, OC and has been successful at it.

So wherever you sit KP sucks, never got a shot, or is gonna be a solid backup we will find out soon enough. He will see some playing time I am almost certain.

For me, and this isn't my bias speaking (UPITT Alum), he didn't get a fair shot, but I got news for you, neither did Mason Rudolph. Pretty hard to build a QB when you have a HOF around. The focus was never about grooming Rudolph, it was about getting another shot before Big Ben rode off into the sunset.

The Steelers prior to this year (fingers crossed), have been historically bad at investing in coaching depth/quality. I wish KP would've succeeded here, but I think he has a better chance if he is to succeed to do it elsewhere.

Odds are right now he is likely to be a journeyman backup, but at this point I just don't know.

Brothervad

I think it's not fair to say he didn't get a shot.

He starter 24 games.

It wasn't the best shot.

But he had more opportunity than someone like Rudolph, who appears to be similar in skill level.

[brothervad]

I think it's not fair to say he didn't get a shot.

He starter 24 games.

It wasn't the best shot.

But he had more opportunity than someone like Rudolph, who appears to be similar in skill level.

So if you read my post - I think there are 3 camps out there and perhaps instead of saying there is a camp out there that says "never got a shot", would it have been better if I called the camp "never got a fair shot"

I think it is fair to say that there are a group of people out there who feel that having Matt Canada as an OC isn't a "Fair Shot"

You don't have to agree with them, but I would disagree with you if you say they don't exist.

Brothervad