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  • Northern_Blitz
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    • Dec 2008
    • 22292

    #46
    Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
    If Mason started the entire last season ( allow him to miss say 1 game ) we would be a 11-6 to 12-5 team. Either we retain him or draft QB with our first round pick. Maybe we draft JJ McCarthy who you aren't a fan or any Big Ten QB's as you question the Big Ten Qb's. Ever hear of Brady and Brees? Or that rookie last year named Stroud? Look it up where they played college ball.
    I think most probably know I'm no KP booster, but I think it's not unreasonable to think we get to 11 with Kenny too. Mitch really hurt us in those games.

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    • Captain Lemming
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      • Jun 2008
      • 15706

      #47
      Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
      I think most probably know I'm no KP booster, but I think it's not unreasonable to think we get to 11 with Kenny too. Mitch really hurt us in those games.
      PFF disagrees with you.
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      In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

      TCFCLTC-
      The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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      • feltdizz
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        • May 2008
        • 26142

        #48
        Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
        If Mason started the entire last season ( allow him to miss say 1 game ) we would be a 11-6 to 12-5 team. Either we retain him or draft QB with our first round pick. Maybe we draft JJ McCarthy who you aren't a fan or any Big Ten QB's as you question the Big Ten Qb's. Ever hear of Brady and Brees? Or that rookie last year named Stroud? Look it up where they played college ball.
        Edit: I’m not even going to entertain this and let you hijack this thread with this silly nonsense.
        Last edited by feltdizz; 02-08-2024, 04:57 PM.
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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
          • 26142

          #49
          Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
          I think most probably know I'm no KP booster, but I think it's not unreasonable to think we get to 11 with Kenny too. Mitch really hurt us in those games.
          As we all know I have predicted we wouldn’t lose another game with 6 games left before Kenny got hurt based on the schedule.
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          • Joel Buchsbaum
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            • Jan 2021
            • 6931

            #50
            Originally posted by feltdizz
            Edit: I’m not even going to entertain this and let you hijack this thread with this silly nonsense.
            It's okay. I reminded the board of you anti big ten QB banter. Your nonsense. I could look back and quote you directly and post it here, but for now I will let it pass. We are good.

            Nice signature by the way.
            Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

            Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

            *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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            • feltdizz
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              • May 2008
              • 26142

              #51
              Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
              It's okay. I reminded the board of you anti big ten QB banter. Your nonsense. I could look back and quote you directly and post it here, but for now I will let it pass. We are good.

              Nice signature by the way.
              please quote me and post the link to the thread. I know what I said.

              you won’t do this because you know it would show you aren’t being honest.

              Ever notice how the people who claim they have evidence or quotes NEVER post them? Hell, when I have time I will do it myself.

              I said I dont enjoy QB play in the Big 10 and asked you to name a good QB besides a Buckeye in the last 10 years.

              You brought up Brady, Brees and Stroud which proved my point.
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              • feltdizz
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                • May 2008
                • 26142

                #52
                Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                It's okay. I reminded the board of you anti big ten QB banter. Your nonsense. I could look back and quote you directly and post it here, but for now I will let it pass. We are good.

                Nice signature by the way.
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                Brees was a long time ago..

                and Wilson only played 1 year at Wisconsin because NC States HC tried to force him to stop playing baseball but really, he was afraid of losing a highly touted freshman recruit who ended up stinking.

                You should’ve brought up Brady. But I never said all Big 10 QB’s in the history of the game have sucked. I just don’t like the QB play in the Big10. Its rarely a joy to watch passing offenses in that conference.

                Besides Ohio State name another Big 10 QB worth a damn the last 10 years.
                whole thread if anyone wants to see Joel twisting like a pretzel because he couldn’t name a good QB in the Big Ten the last 10 years that wasn’t at OSU.

                It's a little early to start talking about the draft, but our QB1 isn't playing well and this 2024 QB class is absolutely loaded! I see as many as six first round picks next year and teams moving off their QB's who are cap killers and can be poor passers such as Lamar Jakson, Kyler Murray, and Russell Wilson... I think. Such


                sorry about the post hijack I just don’t like when people claim they can quote someone but don’t follow through.
                Last edited by feltdizz; 02-08-2024, 07:11 PM.
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                • Joel Buchsbaum
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                  • Jan 2021
                  • 6931

                  #53
                  whole thread if anyone wants to see Joel twisting like a pretzel because he couldn’t name a good QB in the Big Ten the last 10 years that wasn’t at OSU.

                  http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums...ht=Brady+Brees

                  sorry about the post hijack I just don’t like when people claim they can quote someone but don’t follow through. - Feltdizz

                  Don't hijack this thread by making it far away for what the OP said. Don't mis -quote me. I did name two big ten QB's that are very good, who played in the NFL in the last ten years. Ever hear of Brees and Wilson? Or Brady. They all played in the Big Ten. Why must you exclude OSU?

                  Now drop this point or create you own thread on the topic.

                  Sorry SteelerofDeville.
                  Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                  Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                  *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                  • Northern_Blitz
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                    • Dec 2008
                    • 22292

                    #54
                    Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                    ...time to move on from the offense before it fully becomes a mason/warren vs pickett/najee thread.

                    Defense as it stands with a look forward

                    I'm amazed at how well this group generally performs. There were 8 teams that allowed fewer than 20ppg and the Steelers were one of them. There were times where Tomlin asked them to basically win the game because he knows how good this defense is. And would criticize them for not getting the turnover *in the right part of the field*, which is an insane ask of any coach.

                    There were a lot of injuries. Long term, they need a CB, an ILB and DL help.

                    Stars TJ, Minkah and Cam are often injured. I have to wonder if it's because they just lay their bodies on the line play in and play out. *shrug*

                    Anyway, let's break down the units.

                    DLine - Cam's Cam; even as an old guy, he works his tail off. I think his injury limited him more than he shared. I'd say he's got another good year in the tank. Larry O has been "good, not great". Benton was a pleasant surprise (I mocked him). Admitting that I had hoped for more from Leal (I mocked him, too); if Cam can beat the injury bug one more time, this will be a damn good unit. I'd still be looking for a DE/DT in the draft rounds 2-4

                    OLB - TJ and Highsmith are darned good, we know that. IMO, Herbig may never be more than a pass rush specialist; be on the lookout for 2024 Markus Golden; probably not a position that will be drafted unless a freak falls for some odd reason and it's just too much to pass on

                    ILB - Holcomb and Alexander going down hurt big time. While Roberts was worth the cheap vet contract, they finished the season with a bunch of other guys who had no business on the field. I couldn't help but watch the Bills game and think how the Bills broke my heart taking Dorian Williams and leaving the team Darnell Washington. With Holcomb healed and Roberts under contract for one more season, I think the unit will be fine. But, I fully expect ILB to be taken in this draft with moderate priority (rounds 2-5 depending on the board)

                    CB - JPJ was worth the pick. Chandon Sullivan was quietly solid. Levi.. "meh". If Jaylon Johnson hits the market I'm going all in but, I see a franchise tag coming his way from Chicago. And Kendall Fuller coming our way... or some veteran on a "good" contract (Snead from KC).

                    S - We have a star at FS in Minkah. At SS, a whole slew of guys played and had moments, but we need a solid compliment to Minkah. Edmunds is out there and the team should probably kick the tires on a return. He was not a superstar, but was solid. Early on during this season, I wanted a 1st round SS to compliment Minkah, but I'm less concerned. It can wait a season for bigger priorities

                    Overall, this defense is solid. The could use another CB, who I'd get in free agency. I'd grab an ILB and DL in rounds 3-4. For the 34 defense DEs are usually still on the board because they don't quite have the pass rush skills as the 43 DE prospects. You're looking for a guy who is roughly 6'5", between 280+ and is a run stuffer first, but can give a handful of pressures and sacks. That's how you scout this position. (Hey Darius Robinson, you already look good in black and gold)

                    If you were paying attention, you could piece together my present mock. Here's a preview. Picks coming with reasons.

                    Round 1 BPA at OLine
                    Round 2 BPA at OLine/CB/DLine/ILB
                    Round 3 Whichever is left from above
                    Round 4 Whichever is left, but add BPA at QB and WR; remove CB
                    Round 6 and 7 rinse and repeat with a heavy slant towards upside
                    I wonder what the state of Holcolm and Alexander will be next season.

                    Will Holcolm be ready for camp? That injury was brutal.

                    Will Alexander retire? Already getting up in years. 2nd Achilles injury.

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                    • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                      • May 2008
                      • 9537

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                      I wonder what the state of Holcolm and Alexander will be next season.

                      Will Holcolm be ready for camp? That injury was brutal.

                      Will Alexander retire? Already getting up in years. 2nd Achilles injury.
                      Alexander was on a one year deal and I don't know if it is worth signing the guy again. He'll be 30 years old and coming off a season ending injury, with a long history of injuries. Considering that he is not likely a starter in 2024, you at least want to know that your backups will be there when called upon.
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                      • feltdizz
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                        • May 2008
                        • 26142

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                        Don't hijack this thread by making it far away for what the OP said. Don't mis -quote me. I did name two big ten QB's that are very good, who played in the NFL in the last ten years. Ever hear of Brees and Wilson? Or Brady. They all played in the Big Ten. Why must you exclude OSU?

                        Now drop this point or create you own thread on the topic.

                        Sorry SteelerofDeville.
                        My last post on this. You brought up my Big 10 post in this thread. Did you forget already? Now you try to say I’m hijacking a thread? Cmon dude.. lol

                        and AGAIN you show how dishonest you are when I specifically said I didn’t enjoy QB play IN the Big 10. I never said no good QB’s ever played in the Big 10. My point was college ball, I don’t watch that conference for QB play.

                        We were talking about scouting QB’s for 2024. The hell does Brady and Brees have to do with that? Just another example of you doing a Pierre.

                        I excluded OSU because they are the one school that consistently fields (pun intended) good QB’s.

                        drops mic
                        turns off lights on this topic
                        shuts door
                        Last edited by feltdizz; 02-09-2024, 11:39 AM.
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                        • Northern_Blitz
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                          • Dec 2008
                          • 22292

                          #57
                          Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                          Alexander was on a one year deal and I don't know if it is worth signing the guy again. He'll be 30 years old and coming off a season ending injury, with a long history of injuries. Considering that he is not likely a starter in 2024, you at least want to know that your backups will be there when called upon.
                          Thanks TO. For some reason I thought we gave him the Colbert special 2 years so we could spread out any cap hit from the signing bonus.

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                          • feltdizz
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                            • May 2008
                            • 26142

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                            I wonder what the state of Holcolm and Alexander will be next season.

                            Will Holcolm be ready for camp? That injury was brutal.

                            Will Alexander retire? Already getting up in years. 2nd Achilles injury.
                            I would not want to play ILB for the Steelers. Seems cursed.

                            Hopefully they both come back but I fear injuries may ruin their confidence or impact.

                            ILB should be on our board. I think we did a good job finding value in FA last year. Might strike gold again.

                            The safety position is my concern. Minkah was stinkah in coverage and there was a ton of miscommunication when he came back.
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                            • Northern_Blitz
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                              • Dec 2008
                              • 22292

                              #59
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              I would not want to play ILB for the Steelers. Seems cursed.

                              Hopefully they both come back but I fear injuries may ruin their confidence or impact.

                              ILB should be on our board. I think we did a good job finding value in FA last year. Might strike gold again.

                              The safety position is my concern. Minkah was stinkah in coverage and there was a ton of miscommunication when he came back.
                              The only thing I worry about re: Minkah is that we'll have him doubling as an ILB again if the DL and ILBs can't get it done.

                              I know everyone is high on the idea of getting OT and C (I am too). But we've spent lots of early draft capital lately on offense and the defense is getting old.

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                              • NorthCoast
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                                • Sep 2008
                                • 24510

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                                The only thing I worry about re: Minkah is that we'll have him doubling as an ILB again if the DL and ILBs can't get it done.

                                I know everyone is high on the idea of getting OT and C (I am too). But we've spent lots of early draft capital lately on offense and the defense is getting old.
                                The other Devin (yea, the one the Steelers didn't pick) is a FA this year. Queen is also a FA. And Bobby Wagner is in his annual free agency

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