Poll: Mason Rudolph or Ryan Tannehill?

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  • WindyCitySteel
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    • Nov 2011
    • 14095

    #31
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    Are you Masons agent?
    Mason is just the latest shiny object that caught his eye, I predict that this infatuation will end during the scouting combine.

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    • Joel Buchsbaum
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      • Jan 2021
      • 6971

      #32
      Originally posted by feltdizz
      Are you Masons agent?
      Just repeating facts. Maybe Tomlin will hire me a his agent, what do you think about that?
      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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      • Northern_Blitz
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        • Dec 2008
        • 22441

        #33
        Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
        Mason is just the latest shiny object that caught his eye, I predict that this infatuation will end during the scouting combine.
        Maybe it will be like Pierre, where he disavows any knowledge of previous comments.

        Joel, it's OK to just admit when you're wrong.

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        • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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          • May 2008
          • 9556

          #34
          Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
          Moreover, keeping Mason just sets you up for a QB controversy.

          If you're committed to Pickett, go with him. If he fails, you draft a new one sooner.

          I personally have no interest in 2-3 years of KP vs MR discussions. Either Pickett is the man, or you go get one in the '25 draft.

          I think most people are completely missing THIS point.
          I think that going into 2024, they are not committing to Pickett the same way they did last year. 2023 was a year that Kenny was set as the starter without legitimate competition. This season I see it as him entering as the incumbent, with the current title of QB1, but others will be given a chance to unseat KP if he can't hold them off.
          http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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          • hawaiiansteel
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            • May 2008
            • 34219

            #35
            Steelers expected to pursue QB Ryan Tannehill

            Pittsburgh expected to pursue the veteran quarterback

            By Jarrett Bailey Feb 11, 2024

            Steel Maniac's Time-Based Prediction: Lamar Jackson will be a bust and total flop in the NFL.

            What Actually Happened: Lamar Jackson became the youngest two-time NFL MVP winner ever.

            Gloat gloat gloat


            Boom........Knuckle up. Punk.

            My IT guy...
            Hahahahahahaha

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            • Joel Buchsbaum
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              • Jan 2021
              • 6971

              #36
              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
              Steelers expected to pursue QB Ryan Tannehill

              Pittsburgh expected to pursue the veteran quarterback

              By Jarrett Bailey Feb 11, 2024

              https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...fl-free-agency
              *)(@K No, no, no.
              Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

              Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

              *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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              • feltdizz
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                • May 2008
                • 26245

                #37
                Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                Steelers expected to pursue QB Ryan Tannehill

                Pittsburgh expected to pursue the veteran quarterback

                By Jarrett Bailey Feb 11, 2024

                https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...fl-free-agency
                not surprised at all by this rumor.
                Steelers 27
                Commanders 23

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                • Buzz
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                  • Dec 2017
                  • 7962

                  #38
                  If we're gonna go for old guys, might as well try for Drew Brees

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 26245

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Buzz
                    If we're gonna go for old guys, might as well try for Drew Brees
                    Drew cant lift his arm anymore.
                    Steelers 27
                    Commanders 23

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                    • Eich
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                      • Jul 2010
                      • 6468

                      #40
                      Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                      Steelers expected to pursue QB Ryan Tannehill
                      To be our next Charlie Batch, fine. But we need someone else to get us a playoff win.

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                      • Northern_Blitz
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 22441

                        #41
                        I wonder how much both the new rumors: "Mason wants to go to a new team" and "Steelers interested in bringing Tannehill" are just about the contract negotiation with Mason.

                        Both sides saying "look, we're willing to explore other options".

                        I still think it's better than a coin flip that Mason comes back. I think we'll give a contract with a high number for actually attainable salary. And I think our current QB situation means that he's got a better chance to get on the field here than most places. Especially since we're unlikely to draft a high pedigree QB this season.

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                        • brothervad
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1893

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                          I wonder how much both the new rumors: "Mason wants to go to a new team" and "Steelers interested in bringing Tannehill" are just about the contract negotiation with Mason.

                          Both sides saying "look, we're willing to explore other options".

                          I still think it's better than a coin flip that Mason comes back. I think we'll give a contract with a high number for actually attainable salary. And I think our current QB situation means that he's got a better chance to get on the field here than most places. Especially since we're unlikely to draft a high pedigree QB this season.
                          I think there are several things at play here...

                          As much as some of us feel that the Steeler brain trust are pretty error free...they did treat MR pretty much like garbage. Told him he was a starter, drafted KP, hired Mitch and then didn't even get a shot to earn the #1 spot in pre-season. People seem to forget he was on the circuit after Ben retired (Rich Eisen show, etc., etc.).

                          Yeah they guaranteed him money but I look at that as like most of us who are in the working world...they were willing to pay him and he did his service for that (At Will) contract. They didn't do him a favor they both negotiated a deal in good faith.

                          Honestly, do you think he should trust them that there will be a "fair" competition after two years of being #3 when it was clear he was at least better than Mitch.

                          I think if I were in his shoes, I too would look for clean start where I would at least have more faith that when they promised a fair competition...there would be an actual chance.

                          Secondly, I kind of parrot the opinion Andrew Filliponi has (a rarity)...

                          if they are sincere about KP, you really can't bring MR back. It would be extremely difficult to have an "open" competition and focus on making KP the franchise QB. (There words not mine).

                          Also, if they sign a Fields,Tannehill, Wilson - it's a signal they aren't really focussed on making KP a #1...

                          It will be telling what they do offseason.

                          Brothervad

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                          • Northern_Blitz
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 22441

                            #43
                            Originally posted by brothervad
                            I think there are several things at play here...

                            As much as some of us feel that the Steeler brain trust are pretty error free...they did treat MR pretty much like garbage. Told him he was a starter, drafted KP, hired Mitch and then didn't even get a shot to earn the #1 spot in pre-season. People seem to forget he was on the circuit after Ben retired (Rich Eisen show, etc., etc.).

                            Yeah they guaranteed him money but I look at that as like most of us who are in the working world...they were willing to pay him and he did his service for that (At Will) contract. They didn't do him a favor they both negotiated a deal in good faith.

                            Honestly, do you think he should trust them that there will be a "fair" competition after two years of being #3 when it was clear he was at least better than Mitch.

                            I think if I were in his shoes, I too would look for clean start where I would at least have more faith that when they promised a fair competition...there would be an actual chance.

                            Secondly, I kind of parrot the opinion Andrew Filliponi has (a rarity)...

                            if they are sincere about KP, you really can't bring MR back. It would be extremely difficult to have an "open" competition and focus on making KP the franchise QB. (There words not mine).

                            Also, if they sign a Fields,Tannehill, Wilson - it's a signal they aren't really focussed on making KP a #1...

                            It will be telling what they do offseason.

                            Brothervad
                            I'm sure he's legitimately open to going to other teams.

                            But I tend to think that we'll offer him more because we know there's a good chance he'd end up our starter by the end of the year.

                            Which is also why I think he'd want to stay.

                            Re: previously treated.

                            I could see this going either way...depending on how things were communicated to him.

                            I'm sure he was aware that QB was a strong possibility in UFA. And I don't think it was a surprise that we brought in a UFA either.

                            Was he told that he'd get a legit shot in camp? I don't know. If so, I could see him being pissed about how he was treated.

                            But he also got to test what other teams though of him last year. And if it weren't for the Steelers, it sounds like he'd be selling commercial real estate or whatever. So he might also be grateful for the opportunity.

                            Maybe most importantly, we didn't put Kenny in when he was healthy. Instead, we kept going back to Rudolph. Because he showed that he was the better player. I'd imagine that means a lot too.

                            And since he's already been "screwed" once by a team drafting another QB (and bringing one in), I wonder if he'd be more gun shy about going to another team. Unlike last time, I think it's pretty unlikely that we use a 1st round pick on a QB this year. So he'd have at least one year to show what he has (if he thinks he can win the job...which he already won once).

                            I won't begrudge him if he chooses to leave (just like I didn't begrudge Bell). But I think staying would mean he gets close to his top offer and maybe his best chance to play.

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                            • hawaiiansteel
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 34219

                              #44
                              Steel Maniac's Time-Based Prediction: Lamar Jackson will be a bust and total flop in the NFL.

                              What Actually Happened: Lamar Jackson became the youngest two-time NFL MVP winner ever.

                              Gloat gloat gloat


                              Boom........Knuckle up. Punk.

                              My IT guy...
                              Hahahahahahaha

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                              • feltdizz
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 26245

                                #45
                                lmao at fresh start. The man just tried the market last year and came back to the place that “screwed him over”

                                He played well in 2 games. Played a total of four. That’s 4 more games than he would’ve player anywhere else last year.

                                Maybe we are clearing all this cap room to get him $20 mill per season
                                Steelers 27
                                Commanders 23

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