Arthur Smith is the New OC

[NorthCoast]

I think this is more a hire for who we are vs. a hire for who we want to be.

I was hoping for a hire that signaled a bigger change than this, but I'm not surprised.

My understanding is that he really likes PA passing. Which is something we need to do a lot more of IMO.

I do prefer hiring a failed HC over hiring a failed OC.

It's the twilight of Tomlin's career. He wasn't going to make a sea change at this point just to placate the fans. I look at the positive; if he's good then the Steelers win. If he's bad, it's very likely the end of Tomlin's Steelers career. After all, how many strikes do you get when hiring coordinators?

[Northern_Blitz]

Yeah, Tomlin does not want a QB like Ben or Mahommes at this point, he wants someone more in the mold of Alex Smith who will manage the game, maybe make a splasher here and there and won't turn the ball over. It's a very outdated philosophy but here we are, it's also a philosophy that will get you to .500 ball which seems to be the most important thing for Tomlin now. Definitely won't win a SB.

Or he recognizes that playing like Kenny, Mitch, or Mason are HoF QBs is going to get us blown out.

I think our brand of football has been really boring for several years.

But I think it tends to get wins even with bad QB play.

And it's likely that we're not going to get a huge improvement in QB play next season.

[Northern_Blitz]

What is the "proper formula" to develop young QB's in the NFL?

Pick the right young QB.

[Oviedo]

I personally like the hire. I?ll now duck my head and sneak out of the room.

I like it to. Some clowns think they were going to hire someone who would require a complete make over of the team to fit a different system. That is a multi-year proposition.

This is a smart hire for someone who can get more out of what we have

[SteelBucks]

Tannehill??? The dude will be 36 next season and was never really that great. I'm so ready for the Tomlin era to be over oh man.

55 TD passes in two seasons with Smith isn?t good? Yes, he?s 36.

[Oviedo]

I now get the feeling that we won't ever find out how good KP could be in Pittsburgh, definitely not that kind of hire. I suspect Steelers will have another QB by 2025, maybe 2026. Basically just wasted seasons at this point going back to 2020.

I think the organization has a pretty good idea who Pickett is and I think the hiring of Smith says it all. They weren't going to hire an OC who would ask Pickett to do what he can't do

Like many of us said when he was drafted, he is more likely Ryan Tannehill, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins than he is Big Ben, Pat Mahommes

[T.Ferguson]

Or he recognizes that playing like Kenny, Mitch, or Mason are HoF QBs is going to get us blown out.

I think our brand of football has been really boring for several years.

But I think it tends to get wins even with bad QB play.

And it's likely that we're not going to get a huge improvement in QB play next season.

So why did the Steelers draft KP in the first round then? It makes no sense and it's not like KP was given an opportunity of running an offense that wasn't ultra conservative. Tomlin is simply an ultra conservative coach at this point and it stinks for various reasons.

[Northern_Blitz]

It's the twilight of Tomlin's career. He wasn't going to make a sea change at this point just to placate the fans. I look at the positive; if he's good then the Steelers win. If he's bad, it's very likely the end of Tomlin's Steelers career. After all, how many strikes do you get when hiring coordinators?

I'm glad that we got an outside guy that doesn't seem to be the ex-room mate of someone high up in the organization.

That seems to suggest that we picked him because we think he has a good plan for the offense.

I like that I hear that he has a QB friendly system that doesn't ask too much from them.

I like that he runs PA.

I like that he was an OC that was successful with sub-optimal QB play. Not a guy that had success because he coached Manning / Ben / Brady / Mahomes, etc.


I worry about the zone blocking. Especially outside zone? Was our bad zone blocking because we didn't have the best personnel, or is it because of how the OL coach was implementing it?

We'll see what happens...

[Northern_Blitz]

So why did the Steelers draft KP in the first round then? It makes no sense and it's not like KP was given an opportunity of running an offense that wasn't ultra conservative. Tomlin is simply an ultra conservative coach at this point and it stinks for various reasons.

Because they needed a QB and a guy who was expected to go early fell. I think it was a reasonable bet. But it hasn't paid out (yet).

If Kenny played well in a conservative offense, I think he would have been allowed to run a less conservative offense. He needs to show he can walk before they ask him to run IMO.

[NorthCoast]

I like it to. Some clowns think they were going to hire someone who would require a complete make over of the team to fit a different system. That is a multi-year proposition.

This is a smart hire for someone who can get more out of what we have

The current 'system' has produced blowout losses in the last half dozen playoffs. Don't you think it's time to revisit the 'system' they are building?

[T.Ferguson]

I think the organization has a pretty good idea who Pickett is and I think the hiring of Smith says it all. They weren't going to hire an OC who would ask Pickett to do what he can't do

Like many of us said when he was drafted, he is more likely Ryan Tannehill, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins than he is Big Ben, Pat Mahommes

I think the hiring has way more to do with Tomlin's overall philosophy now than it has to do with who the QB is. It basically ensures the offense will be a continuation of what we have been witnessing for some time. Sure, it may improve but it's still gonna be underwhelming most likely. And that 's ok with Tomlin and that's kind of the problem.

[WindyCitySteel]

Well, this is encouraging. PFF grades for Tannehill year by year. Best by far under Smith.

68, 80, 76, 68, 74, 45, 92, 90, 83, 75, 69

[BURGH86STEEL]

Pick the right young QB.

Who is the next????????????? Cleveland and Denver over paid their QBs. The Steelers have a process under the current ownership.

What more could the current ownership do that would had "guaranteed" more wins in the post season? Where do injuries fall into the equation? Where does poor play fall into the equation? Player mistakes? Bad luck?

[WindyCitySteel]

Who is the next????????????? Cleveland and Denver over paid their QBs. The Steelers have a process under the current ownership.

What more could the current ownership do that would had "guaranteed" more wins in the post season? Where do injuries fall into the equation? Where does poor play fall into the equation? Player mistakes? Bad luck?

Every team deals with all of that, the best overcome.

[Northern_Blitz]

Who is the next????????????? Cleveland and Denver over paid their QBs. The Steelers have a process under the current ownership.

What more could the current ownership do that would had "guaranteed" more wins in the post season? Where do injuries fall into the equation? Where does poor play fall into the equation? Player mistakes? Bad luck?

Not sure about the answers to these questions.

My answer was basically that the way to get an above average QB in the NFL is to hit the lottery. I think QBs are rarely "developed" in the NFL. At least not from below average to above average. In most cases, I think it's more of a "have it or not" kind of situation.