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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23675

    It looks like...

    KP is Just A Guy (JAG) for right now. Not a popular statement with his hard core fans, but it is the truth for now. I'm not ruling out that he could get better, but I would not expect him to get close to the career Ben had. As many of us said going into his draft, his ceiling is Derek Carr/Kirk Cousin and he isn't close to that ceiling.

    Another likely unpopular statement...its not just Canada! KP is leaving plays on the field that he should make if he is an elite QB. Can't give KP anymore passes and blame everyone and everything else. If KP is "the guy" versus "a Guy" he needs to show he can lift the team.

    I remain hopeful because we have to. We aren't going to be in a position to draft a top QB anytime soon unless we get lucky like the 49ers and find a Purdy
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"
  • LAMBERT72
    Backup
    • Nov 2022
    • 111

    #2
    Originally posted by Oviedo
    KP is Just A Guy (JAG) for right now. Not a popular statement with his hard core fans, but it is the truth for now. I'm not ruling out that he could get better, but I would not expect him to get close to the career Ben had. As many of us said going into his draft, his ceiling is Derek Carr/Kirk Cousin and he isn't close to that ceiling.

    Another likely unpopular statement...its not just Canada! KP is leaving plays on the field that he should make if he is an elite QB. Can't give KP anymore passes and blame everyone and everything else. If KP is "the guy" versus "a Guy" he needs to show he can lift the team.

    I remain hopeful because we have to. We aren't going to be in a position to draft a top QB anytime soon unless we get lucky like the 49ers and find a Purdy
    Agree with the statement regarding KP.

    Not agree with the statement of Canada...
    His games plans are predictable, mediocre, inappropriate for a team like ours. Since he has been OC he has not demonstrated anything, absolutely nothing that makes him worthy of continuing to be our OC. It is also his obligation to adjust our game plan to our strengths (for this he must detect them). Furthermore, it is also up to him (although not only him) to develop KP and make him play with greater confidence. Not to mention the running game...

    Just my two cents.

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    • WindyCitySteel
      Legend
      • Nov 2011
      • 14645

      #3
      Doesn't even look like that, frankly. He's had at least 3 dropped INTs in two weeks. He looks like he doesn't belong on the field.

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      • NorthCoast
        Legend
        • Sep 2008
        • 25382

        #4
        I was thinking about this last night. Pickett is a film junkie, studies relentlessly according to reports. But there is also a real thing call 'test anxiety'. Come exam day some people just work themselves up to failure. There is also 'paralysis by analysis'. Too much info causing indecision. I don't know if KP has either of these, but the thought did come across my mind. It may simply be KP needing to work out what things should be focused on and what things he should filter out. That can only come with experience.

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        • Northern_Blitz
          Legend
          • Dec 2008
          • 23260

          #5
          Originally posted by Oviedo
          KP is Just A Guy (JAG) for right now.
          At this point, you might be over rating him with this comment.

          It's still early and maybe he becomes something. Other guys have turned it around. But most don't.

          He looks very bad so far this year. Remember when Ben said that it gets harder when they have an offseason to watch your tape?

          He has to show that he can win with the pass. Every team we play should sell out against the run and make Pickett beat them. Very little evidence he can so far.

          Hopefully he changes that soon.

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          • Northern_Blitz
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 23260

            #6
            Originally posted by NorthCoast
            I was thinking about this last night. Pickett is a film junkie, studies relentlessly according to reports. But there is also a real thing call 'test anxiety'. Come exam day some people just work themselves up to failure. There is also 'paralysis by analysis'. Too much info causing indecision. I don't know if KP has either of these, but the thought did come across my mind. It may simply be KP needing to work out what things should be focused on and what things he should filter out. That can only come with experience.
            It might just be that he can't process and execute. Studying can only get you so far. You need ability too.

            Hopefully he has it.

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            • Ghost
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 6188

              #7
              Fittipaldo:

              Quarterback: The Steelers won this game, but it?s fair to wonder how many more they can win with Pickett playing the way he is. Other than a couple of throws to George Pickens, including a 71-yard touchdown, there wasn?t much to like about his performance. He completed just 50% of his passes (15 for 30) for 222 yards with one touchdown and one interception. In addition to his inaccuracy, he?s making bad decisions. The Browns dropped another interception on the first play of the second half. And he refuses to take easy yards on scrambles when none of his receivers are open. This was a game the Steelers should have won by three touchdowns, but they had to eke out a four-point win because Pickett played poorly again.

              Grade: F

              KP has been graded an F 2 weeks in row. Team can't and won't win if he continues to play downright awful.
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              • Joel Buchsbaum
                Legend
                • Jan 2021
                • 7241

                #8
                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                I was thinking about this last night. Pickett is a film junkie, studies relentlessly according to reports. But there is also a real thing call 'test anxiety'. Come exam day some people just work themselves up to failure. There is also 'paralysis by analysis'. Too much info causing indecision. I don't know if KP has either of these, but the thought did come across my mind. It may simply be KP needing to work out what things should be focused on and what things he should filter out. That can only come with experience.
                Pickett is a nice guy. He speaks fairly well. But his football IQ and play, speak for themselves.

                A side note. Even the Yinzer fans who seldom question this team see the problems. I heard from the boos last night.

                IMO, our problems are summed up as such. Tweedledum and Tweedledee coaching the offense. One picks who starts, the other calls the plays. With Harris as the #1 back, and Pickett being the quarterback. See any problems?
                Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                • Terrapin
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 2041

                  #9
                  Like I said last week, there really is nothing they can do about Pickett sucking this year. Trubisky isn't the QB of the future. So if you put him in, and maybe he gets us to 8 wins, that is the worst thing that can happen. If Pickett sucks and he's not our future, we'll win 4 or 5 games, which should get us a top 10 pick to draft our next QB.

                  But I agree, there's just something off with Pickett. He's playing scared, he's not accurate, and he's making horrible decisions. These are the things that were supposed to be his strengths.

                  He's reminding me of David Carr

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                  • Starlifter
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 5003

                    #10
                    In the glass is half full mindset - you typically want to see growth and progression in a QB’s second year. Based on his start, KP has nowhere to go but up. So growth and progression are a near certainty at this point…..
                    2014 MNF EXEC CHAMPION!!!

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                    • SteelerOfDeVille
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 8829

                      #11
                      time to cut Mason and go pick up Howell (who the pats* cut last night)
                      2013 MNF Executive Champion!

                      DeVille's final Mock
                      1.20 - Tailiese Fuaga, OT, Oregon St
                      2.51 - Zach Frazier, C, WVU
                      3.84 - Luke Mccaffery, WR, Rice
                      3.98 - Andru Phillips, CB, Kentucky
                      4.117 - Maason Smith, DT, LSU
                      6.178 - Travis Glover, OT, Ga State
                      6.195 - Dillon Johnson, RB, Washington

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                      • papillon
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 11320

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                        time to cut Mason and go pick up Howell (who the pats* cut last night)
                        Sadly, Mason Rudolph may be the best quarterback on the team right now. I know if they pull Pickett that Trubisky gets the start but we know how that ends up, we saw that last year. We haven't seen Rudolph in a live game in how long, maybe there's something there.

                        Pappy
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                        The 2024 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                        1.20 - Troy Fautanu, T, Washington
                        2.51 - Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia
                        3.84 - Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan
                        3.98 - Payton Wilson, LB, UNC
                        4.119 - Mason McCprmick, OG, S. Dakota St
                        7.178 - Logan Lee, DT, Iowa
                        7.195 -

                        "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                        • NorthCoast
                          Legend
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 25382

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ghost
                          Fittipaldo:

                          Quarterback: The Steelers won this game, but it?s fair to wonder how many more they can win with Pickett playing the way he is. Other than a couple of throws to George Pickens, including a 71-yard touchdown, there wasn?t much to like about his performance. He completed just 50% of his passes (15 for 30) for 222 yards with one touchdown and one interception. In addition to his inaccuracy, he?s making bad decisions. The Browns dropped another interception on the first play of the second half. And he refuses to take easy yards on scrambles when none of his receivers are open. This was a game the Steelers should have won by three touchdowns, but they had to eke out a four-point win because Pickett played poorly again.

                          Grade: F

                          KP has been graded an F 2 weeks in row. Team can't and won't win if he continues to play downright awful.
                          It's not just the two games this season. Look at his stats from the last two games last season, against division rivals.

                          vs BAL = 55% completion
                          vs CLE = 45% completion
                          vs CLE (2023) = 50% completion

                          One game is an anomaly. Two a hiccup. THREE is a trend.

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                          • LPMAN
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Sep 2021
                            • 1778

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Terrapin
                            Like I said last week, there really is nothing they can do about Pickett sucking this year. Trubisky isn't the QB of the future. So if you put him in, and maybe he gets us to 8 wins, that is the worst thing that can happen. If Pickett sucks and he's not our future, we'll win 4 or 5 games, which should get us a top 10 pick to draft our next QB.

                            But I agree, there's just something off with Pickett. He's playing scared, he's not accurate, and he's making horrible decisions. These are the things that were supposed to be his strengths.

                            He's reminding me of David Carr
                            That's loser mentality thinking. That's how Browns fans think. If Trubisky is the best QB on the roster then he should start. You should never root for the Steelers to lose with a worse player to get a higher pick. Maybe there's a backup QB on another team we could trade for that's the next Purdy. I'm not throwing in the towel on the season week 2.

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                            • Terrapin
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 2041

                              #15
                              Originally posted by LPMAN
                              That's loser mentality thinking. That's how Browns fans think. If Trubisky is the best QB on the roster then he should start. You should never root for the Steelers to lose with a worse player to get a higher pick. Maybe there's a backup QB on another team we could trade for that's the next Purdy. I'm not throwing in the towel on the season week 2.
                              Do you think Trubisky or Rudolph (both of whom were already given opportunities and failed) can lead this team to a deep playoff run? Do you think either of them can be our QB for the next 5-10 years?

                              If your answer is 'yes', then what you say is correct.
                              If your answer is 'no', then what you say is insane.

                              Despite what Tomlin and his jock sniffers have you believe, the goal of this (or any) franchise is/should not be mediocrity. I personally would rather have 2-3 down years, if it means having a legit shot for the next 10-15 years after (like when we were able to draft Ben).

                              Why people would rather go 9-7 every year is beyond me.

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