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  • SteelerOfDeVille
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 8823

    Originally posted by Mr.wizard
    Najee so far at 37.5% success rate and Warren at 33% success rate. Small sample size.
    Honestly, not good for either, but it also explains why Naj is in more.

    Warren certainly had a couple of nice catches and a decent run all within a few minutes of each other - I think that influenced some perceptions... But he, too, was stuffed at or behind the LOS for most of his carries.
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    • T.Ferguson
      Pro Bowler
      • Sep 2021
      • 2221

      I like Warren a lot but keep in mind got almost half his yards last night on one play where the Browns defender who was covering him was picked on the play leaving him wide open. He also had 6 carries for only 20 yards, Harris had 10 carries for 43 yards.

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      • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 9653

        Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
        I don't think he's show the ability to put it in a place where guys can catch it and then run.

        But I'd like to see data
        There was one play where Pickens was wide open and Pickett completely missed the throw , putting it too far out in front. On replay, I think Aikman pointed out that Pickens slowed his route down and Pickett led him, not expecting him to slow down. Who really knows? One way or another, I know that Pickett is not playing well, that can't be the case on every missed connection.
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        • brothervad
          Pro Bowler
          • Dec 2008
          • 1894

          Originally posted by T.Ferguson
          I like Warren a lot but keep in mind got almost half his yards last night on one play where the Browns defender who was covering him was picked on the play leaving him wide open. He also had 6 carries for only 20 yards, Harris had 10 carries for 43 yards.
          Yeah but NH got almost 50% of his yards last night on 1 carry (longest 21 yds on a total of 43) that means his 9 for 22 is 2.44 ypc. so they were pretty much the same since Warren's average removing his long run was 2.4 ypc (5 for 12).

          So neither is getting enough carries, but neither is doing the offense any favors by placing them in constant second and third and longs.

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          • T.Ferguson
            Pro Bowler
            • Sep 2021
            • 2221

            Originally posted by brothervad
            Yeah but NH got almost 50% of his yards last night on 1 carry (longest 21 yds on a total of 43) that means his 9 for 22 is 2.44 ypc. so they were pretty much the same since Warren's average removing his long run was 2.4 ypc (5 for 12).

            So neither is getting enough carries, but neither is doing the offense any favors by placing them in constant second and third and longs.
            I don't think the RBs are the problem, to put it another way I think if Chubb, for example, was in this offense production wouldn't be much different.

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            • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 9653

              Originally posted by brothervad
              Yeah but NH got almost 50% of his yards last night on 1 carry (longest 21 yds on a total of 43) that means his 9 for 22 is 2.44 ypc.
              Not only that, his next carry was for 17 yards - on a beautiful effort by him. Other than those two, it was 8 carries for 5 yards (.625y/c). Tough sledding for both of them up front. Cleveland employed a 5 man DL with a lot of speed up near the line. There were two plays in particular that I thought did a great job of beating that. One was the screen to Warren where he went for 30 yards and the first first down. The other was a handoff to Warren where he immediately reversed field to the left for (I think) about 8 yards.

              We can talk about the impotent running game all we want, but I think that the QB has to hit a few passes in a row before anyone is going to back away and give the backs some room to run.
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              • SteelerOfDeVille
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 8823

                Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                There was one play where Pickens was wide open and Pickett completely missed the throw , putting it too far out in front. On replay, I think Aikman pointed out that Pickens slowed his route down and Pickett led him, not expecting him to slow down. Who really knows? One way or another, I know that Pickett is not playing well, that can't be the case on every missed connection.
                That's a miscommunication that we're all piling on to the bad night.

                Had Pickens kept running? That is a well placed ball where he could actually run after the catch

                I was really surprised that Aikman didn't call attention to the WR slowing - he's generally good, but he had a couple of weird moments.

                Like when TJ got the touchdown, I think it was him that said "that sack gave him the record for the Steelers".... he didn't even get THAT sack, Highsmith did - moreover, he had already gotten the record earlier in the game.
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                DeVille's final Mock
                1.20 - Tailiese Fuaga, OT, Oregon St
                2.51 - Zach Frazier, C, WVU
                3.84 - Luke Mccaffery, WR, Rice
                3.98 - Andru Phillips, CB, Kentucky
                4.117 - Maason Smith, DT, LSU
                6.178 - Travis Glover, OT, Ga State
                6.195 - Dillon Johnson, RB, Washington

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