Will the Steelers put 2 + 2 together?

[pfelix73]

Tomlin can play who I suggested and Canada can use the 2 TE set more often. I see a powerhouse run game with this formation. Make is easy for our game manager QB. Moore did have a bad game, and it wasn't Bosa he was up against for most of the game. Start Jones. What is the status on Chucks?

They said with the extra day, he should be good to go, but you never know. I would’ve put Jones over at RT for some practice. Might be telling if the guy can only play on left side. I differ with you on what you said a few posts ago about playing on both sides. I was a LT too, And I hated the right side. But if you get Jones early on to practice over there, he may adjust to it. Or maybe not. I wasn’t as good on that side as I was on the left. May have something to do with me being left handed. dont know. I also disagree that Moore had a bad game. Not from the film I watched. But hey. The coaches must agree with me.

[pfelix73]

Has anybody considered that SF had the number one overall defense but the 20th pass defense?

I would suggest the plan for "this game" was NEVER ground and pound. Now did we PLAN to run so little? No. But early on it was clear we could not run effectively with consistency against the Niners. That and the DEFENSE letting us get buried forced our hand to the extreme.

But I would suggest the PLAN for this game, with Bosa coming in late, Kenny excelling in preseason and the Niners 20th pass defense, we INTENDED to lean on the pass game more than typical.

I know SOME PEOPLE think we stubbornly do what we do with not regard to the opponent.

I promise you if we ran into brick walls all game THOSE SAME PEOPLE would be the ones reminding us of how middling the Niners pass defense was last season and blame Tomlins stubbornness for the loss.

NO STRATEGY WOULD HAVE WON THIS POORLY EXECUTED GAME.

If the QUALITY of Kenny and our pass game looked anything close to the hothanded guy we saw in preseason and we could actually make a stop, this game is entirely different INCLUDING more run attempts.

Bottom line, what we see THIS WEEK is more likely what would represent the personality of our offense.

Poorly executed? Can’t execute when the damn plays, formations, blocking schemes are flawed. First 5 drives- the OL WS trying to block 6 sometimes 7 defenders. Cannot execute on that. Should’ve made adjustments/ audibles out of said plays.

But yeah, you’re right about the 9ers defense. It sure is solid, especially the front 7.

[Captain Lemming]

Poorly executed? Can’t execute when the damn plays, formations, blocking schemes are flawed. First 5 drives- the OL WS trying to block 6 sometimes 7 defenders. Cannot execute on that. Should’ve made adjustments/ audibles out of said plays.

But yeah, you’re right about the 9ers defense. It sure is solid, especially the front 7.

You CAN execute on that. You just criticized the 2 tight end set we used a ton. That equals more blockers before a delayed route if we pass out of that.

Could we improve schematically? Sure. Is THAT why we lost? Nope.

If ONE GUY can defeat a SEAMALU AND COLE double team, get the runner the problem ain’t scheme. AND is Kenny issimply MISSING receivers when he has time I would suggest an execution problem was the biggest problem.

[NorthCoast]

No no no....

Wrong.

What they need to do is to leave the OL as it was. Moore did not have a bad game. Do not buy in to the PFF crap. Read how they come up with their grades. Its a joke.

They also need to go with more 4 WR formations. I had the chance to go back and rewatch the game and slowed it down. When they went 4 WR's or 3 and 1 TE, the 9ers D actually backed off the 9 guys in the box crap. They had to. Did any of you go back and rewatch the game? The 5 initial series in the 1st half? Wholly crap. The OL played admirably compared to what the D brought. Kenny has to do better. Canada has to do more to help out the OL. Sometimes 5 were blocking 6 or 7. Kenny missed Harris on a 3rd down in the 3rd Q which would have been a TD. Naj could've strolled in from the 20 yd line. On 1st series, Kenny missed a wide open Robinson, and then was sacked. Sack was on KP8, not Moore. Canadas offense is way too predictable. The WR routes are... well.. not complicated. On the 4th down play in the 3rd Q, there were 2 WRS and a TE all in same vicinity together. Pass failed.

It might be time for Sullivan to call a game. Problem is, same formations and schemes would still be there. From what it sounds, during that 95 yard TD drive, they simplified the play calling. Hmm.

You then have to ask the question why is an NFL QB missing guys in a simple offense? Either off target or just not even seeing them. This is worrisome but I'm still going with Wk1 jitters. QB probably didn't sleep a wink. Although the other part of me wonders whether he is a slow processor.

[Chucktownsteeler]

Pickett had a terrible game, I think he admitted as much. I am not sure it would have mattered much, the entire team stunk and the defense was toothless. The game plan Canada brings just isn't going to cut it against upper echelon teams.

[feltdizz]

You then have to ask the question why is an NFL QB missing guys in a simple offense? Either off target or just not even seeing them. This is worrisome but I'm still going with Wk1 jitters. QB probably didn't sleep a wink. Although the other part of me wonders whether he is a slow processor.

One thing I didn’t account for was an early sack being enough to throw Kenny off his game.

Was it the hit? Was it seeing Najee get destroyed? It was like as soon as we saw Najee get hit the whole offense got scared.

[feltdizz]

Pickett had a terrible game, I think he admitted as much. I am not sure it would have mattered much, the entire team stunk and the defense was toothless. The game plan Canada brings just isn't going to cut it against upper echelon teams.

I really wonder how bad the game plan would’ve been if Kenny completed those easy throws.

[Chucktownsteeler]

I really wonder how bad the game plan would’ve been if Kenny completed those easy throws.

IMHO it wouldn't have mattered. The 49ers were the better team.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

IMHO it wouldn't have mattered. The 49ers were the better team.

I have a solution. Play Washington and Jones, and interest Warren for wide runs making the 49ers defend the entire field. Ya think!. IMO this type of offense can work. Tweedledum and Tweedledee better figure it out. They making big bucks. You know who I am referring to. How deep does this rabbits hole go?

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[feltdizz]

I have a solution. Play Washington and Jones, and interest Warren for wide runs making the 49ers defend the entire field. Ya think!. IMO this type of offense can work. Tweedledum and Tweedledee better figure it out. They making big bucks. You know who I am referring to. How deep does this rabbits hole go?

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I said play Washington and Jones and go max protect in the game thread on Sunday and your response was: "Washington has already been on the field. Are you watching?"

maybe it's because I didn't include Warren in the equation.

We should'v went max protect in the second half.

[Mr.wizard]

I have a solution. Play Washington and Jones, and interest Warren for wide runs making the 49ers defend the entire field. Ya think!. IMO this type of offense can work. Tweedledum and Tweedledee better figure it out. They making big bucks. You know who I am referring to. How deep does this rabbits hole go?

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Running wide against the 49ers defense is almost certainly not a winning formula and the only back that got outside during that game was Najee. Warren got the ball, he had 3 carries for 6yds and 5 catches for 12 yards.

[Chucktownsteeler]

I have a solution. Play Washington and Jones, and interest Warren for wide runs making the 49ers defend the entire field. Ya think!. IMO this type of offense can work. Tweedledum and Tweedledee better figure it out. They making big bucks. You know who I am referring to. How deep does this rabbits hole go?

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I said earlier: Play Jones at LT. Period.

[Blitzer]

I think the 49ers are the best team the Steelers play all year. Our young team got derailed from the get go.

Going into this Browns game, the need to go back to what they did best last year towards the end. long sustained drives. Run the ball with both RBS. keep our Def off the field and in return keep Chubb off the field.

Washington clearly deserves more playing time. Protect KP and all will be good

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Running wide against the 49ers defense is almost certainly not a winning formula and the only back that got outside during that game was Najee. Warren got the ball, he had 3 carries for 6yds and 5 catches for 12 yards.

Did we even try? And run plays with Jones, Washington, and Warren on the field at the same time out of the two TE set? No, we did not. I said make them defend the entire field and stop us. In addition the 2 TE set makes it harder to rush from the edge. Not only can Jones and Washington block in the running game and are capable of moving their man backward, but both players can block on the move well. In case you missed it, the OL created next to no holes last Sunday. Do you understand what I am saying, " coach Wizard " ?

You must love the coaching of Tweedledee and Tweedledum .

[Mr.wizard]

Did we even try? And run plays with Jones, Washington, and Warren on the field at the same time out of the two TE set? No, we did not. I said make them defend the entire field and stop us. In addition the 2 TE set makes it harder to rush from the edge. Not only can Jones and Washington block in the running game and are capable of moving their man backward, but both players can block on the move well. In case you missed it, the OL created next to no holes last Sunday. Do you understand what I am saying, " coach Wizard " ?

You must love the coaching of Tweedledee and Tweedledum .

We didn't use Jones but Washington and Warren got like 40% of the snaps, and Washington was used primarily as a blocker. The issue with Warren wasn't room to run, he had the ball in space and couldn't do anything with it. If anything I see the Steelers going with more Najee to try and get on track.