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  • NJ-STEELER
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 12563

    #31
    Terry might have the best deep ball of all time.

    The thing just flew out his hands without (what seemed) much effort

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    • Starlifter
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 5007

      #32
      I'm old enough to recall watching Bradshaw. I still remember screaming when Stallworth caught that bomb in the Super Bowl. I agree it's not fair to compare Terry and Ben as the era's they played in were dramatically different. But from a pure physical standpoint - Terry hands down had the better deep ball. The way he flicked it, economy of motion, power, accuracy - it was something to see. But the truth is, splitting hairs between those two is like trying to decide who was the better artist - michaelangelo or Davinci.

      The last 50 years of Steeler football has been largely spectacular because of those two. I never take it for granted....
      2014 MNF EXEC CHAMPION!!!

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      • WindyCitySteel
        Legend
        • Nov 2011
        • 14782

        #33
        Originally posted by Starlifter
        I'm old enough to recall watching Bradshaw. I still remember screaming when Stallworth caught that bomb in the Super Bowl. I agree it's not fair to compare Terry and Ben as the era's they played in were dramatically different. But from a pure physical standpoint - Terry hands down had the better deep ball. The way he flicked it, economy of motion, power, accuracy - it was something to see. But the truth is, splitting hairs between those two is like trying to decide who was the better artist - michaelangelo or Davinci.

        The last 50 years of Steeler football has been largely spectacular because of those two. I never take it for granted....
        Very well said. The original TB12 is criminally underrated by NFL types, the man simply came up big when he had to.

        14-5 in the playoffs. 'nuff said.

        If he played in this sissified era, he'd be Josh Allen who can win in the playoffs.
        Last edited by WindyCitySteel; 07-25-2023, 07:53 AM.

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        • hawaiiansteel
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 34619

          #34
          Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
          Very well said. The original TB12 is criminally underrated by NFL types, the man simply came up big when he had to.

          14-5 in the playoffs. 'null said.

          If he played in this sissified era, he'd be Josh Allen who can win in the playoffs.
          I love TB, so this isn't meant as a criticism.

          but Terry was helped tremendously by the team around him. in the Super Bowl against the Vikings he went 9-14 for only 96 yds passing.

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          • Captain Lemming
            Legend
            • Jun 2008
            • 15961

            #35
            Originally posted by Polamalubeast
            Vick was not a good examples,since he was washed and he did not know the system and he had so few pratice with us....AB was fine with Landry Jones
            AB was not special with Jones either. I would suggest he leaned Bryants direction more than Ben.
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            • NJ-STEELER
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 12563

              #36
              Trying to remember the exact thing Terry said on those nfl films shows when bill had subbed in hanratty ( or was it giliium? )

              “ you may lose with me, but you’ll never win without me”


              and by the way. Those other 70s teams were pretty friggin good too.
              while Terry had a great team around him.

              so did staubach, griese, stabler, tark,

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              • Polamalubeast
                Backup
                • Jul 2023
                • 301

                #37
                Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                AB was not special with Jones either. I would suggest he leaned Bryants direction more than Ben.
                AB had only 2 games with Landry Jones as starter and for a full game(vs KC in 2015 and pats in 2016).AB had 2 100 yards games in his 2 games and Landry Jones was very far to be a average QB

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                • WindyCitySteel
                  Legend
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 14782

                  #38
                  Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                  I love TB, so this isn't meant as a criticism.

                  but Terry was helped tremendously by the team around him. in the Super Bowl against the Vikings he went 9-14 for only 96 yds passing.
                  Light year's better than Ben's performance in XL. That was the game plan in the mid-70s, run, play D, hit some plays in the passing game.

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                  • WindyCitySteel
                    Legend
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 14782

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Polamalubeast
                    AB had only 2 games with Landry Jones as starter and for a full game(vs KC in 2015 and pats in 2016).AB had 2 100 yards games in his 2 games and Landry Jones was very far to be a average QB
                    Yup -- 6 catches, 124 yards and 7 for 106.

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                    • Polamalubeast
                      Backup
                      • Jul 2023
                      • 301

                      #40
                      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                      Light year's better than Ben's performance in XL. That was the game plan in the mid-70s, run, play D, hit some plays in the passing game.
                      For Bradshaw, he was one of the worst QB in the 1974 season in the NFL....Of course he was much better after that but it was often a struggle for him in his first 5 seasons

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                      • Captain Lemming
                        Legend
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 15961

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Polamalubeast
                        For Bradshaw, he was one of the worst QB in the 1974 season in the NFL....Of course he was much better after that but it was often a struggle for him in his first 5 seasons
                        Im old enough to remember watching Bradshaw.

                        I think Bradshaw is a tale of two QBs. Young Terry was absolute garbage. He was 100 percent about his gifts and just terrible at reading defenses. Even as a kid I remember thinking… why did he do THAT? That pass was so stupid. All the time.

                        Dont get any sense he was the greatest student of the game.

                        He grew into greatness through years of trial and error. LOTS OF error, experience.

                        His deep ball was beautiful indeed, Always was clutch.

                        By the time he retired, he was as elite as they come.

                        My opinion? Few were as gifted but in todays NFL he would never be given the time to become great.
                        Last edited by Captain Lemming; 07-25-2023, 10:30 AM.
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                        In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                        TCFCLTC-
                        The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                        • Dwinsgames
                          Backup
                          • Aug 2021
                          • 428

                          #42
                          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                          I love TB, so this isn't meant as a criticism.

                          but Terry was helped tremendously by the team around him. in the Super Bowl against the Vikings he went 9-14 for only 96 yds passing.

                          while true , back then 1) you didn't throw a lot.. 2) when your def gives up about 100 yards the entire game you do not have much of a reason to throw the ball much and that defensive performance vs the vikes was about as perfect as you can get don't you think?

                          /cheers
                          @dwinsgames on twitter .... Kenny Pickett is who I thought he was ....

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                          • Steel Maniac
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 19472

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Dwinsgames
                            while true , back then 1) you didn't throw a lot.. 2) when your def gives up about 100 yards the entire game you do not have much of a reason to throw the ball much and that defensive performance vs the vikes was about as perfect as you can get don't you think?

                            /cheers
                            It was Terry who saved us in the Super Bowl against the Rams wasn't it? The defense got served up by Vince Ferragamo?? That bomb to Stallworth that saved us was thrown by Terry wasn't it? That second super bowl we played against Dallas that was a shoot out, that was Terry who was the QB wasn't it? Terry won some Super Bowls for us with his arm. This notion that Terry was just along for the ride has been greatly exaggerated.

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                            • NJ-STEELER
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 12563

                              #44
                              TERRY was mvp for both SB 13 & 14.

                              even in the 2nd SB he had sone amazing throws to Swann ( MVP)

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                              • Dwinsgames
                                Backup
                                • Aug 2021
                                • 428

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                                It was Terry who saved us in the Super Bowl against the Rams wasn't it? The defense got served up by Vince Ferragamo?? That bomb to Stallworth that saved us was thrown by Terry wasn't it? That second super bowl we played against Dallas that was a shoot out, that was Terry who was the QB wasn't it? Terry won some Super Bowls for us with his arm. This notion that Terry was just along for the ride has been greatly exaggerated.
                                where did I ever elude to the bold ? in fact I was the guy who first brought up Terry in this thread ..it is my belief that he is/was /might always be the greatest qb in steelers history ...since the goal every year is to WIN the SB and Terry did it 4 times in 6 years with ZERO defeats he may never be unseated ?? perfection is hard to beat 4-0 is perfection
                                @dwinsgames on twitter .... Kenny Pickett is who I thought he was ....

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