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  • WindyCitySteel
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    • Nov 2011
    • 15035

    #16
    Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
    Revis, the pick right before Timmons, started his HOF career day 1

    why are you drafting players 15th overall if he’s not going to start ?
    To eventually take over for aging stars at the end of their careers? If you're relying on day one impact starters from the draft, you're doing it wrong.

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    • NJ-STEELER
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      • May 2008
      • 12563

      #17
      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
      To eventually take over for aging stars at the end of their careers? If you're relying on day one impact starters from the draft, you're doing it wrong.

      the owner of the team disagrees with you.


      this isn’t the 70s anymore. If they’re not starting quickly. You’re being left behind,
      especially with the rookie salary caps in place.

      not starting for 2 years because the great Larry Foote is in front of you ?
      c’mon

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      • whisper
        Legend
        • Mar 2020
        • 9423

        #18
        Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
        It's an hyperbolic myth that defensive players had to wait 3-4 years under LeBeau to contribute.

        In 2004 Colclough played some as a rookie, Ike played some as a 2nd year CB, Troy started his HOF arc under LeBeau in his 2nd year.

        In 2005 McFadden played as a rookie CB.

        In 2007 Timmons and Woodley played as rooks, Woodley was a fulltime starter by his 2nd season.

        Oh, did you just mean 3-4 DL? Oh, that's...not any different.

        Ziggy played as a rookie, started his 2nd year. Tuitt started 4 games as a rookie, full time starter his 2nd year.

        Heyward took a little longer - he's the outlier.
        Your spot differences mean squat and you know it. Defenders played little as rookies in LeBeau's system, almost none. If you knew our history better you'd realize that.

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        • whisper
          Legend
          • Mar 2020
          • 9423

          #19
          Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
          the owner of the team disagrees with you.


          this isn’t the 70s anymore. If they’re not starting quickly. You’re being left behind,
          especially with the rookie salary caps in place.

          not starting for 2 years because the great Larry Foote is in front of you ?
          c’mon
          Bingo, bango, play it on your banjo.

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          • WindyCitySteel
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            • Nov 2011
            • 15035

            #20
            Originally posted by whisper
            Your spot differences mean squat and you know it. Defenders played little as rookies in LeBeau's system, almost none. If you knew our history better you'd realize that.
            They didn't wait "3-4 years" as you said, and LeBeau's defenses were always top notch. If he threw rookies in on day one and the D faltered, same people would blame him.

            PPG rankings, 2004 - 2014:

            1, 3, 11, 2, 1, 12, 1, 1, 6, 14, 18

            Slip at the end came as the talent got old and....wait for it....

            Rookies had to be inserted into the lineup right away.

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            • whisper
              Legend
              • Mar 2020
              • 9423

              #21
              Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
              They didn't wait "3-4 years" as you said, and LeBeau's defenses were always top notch. If he threw rookies in on day one and the D faltered, same people would blame him.

              PPG rankings, 2004 - 2014:

              1, 3, 11, 2, 1, 12, 1, 1, 6, 14, 18

              Slip at the end came as the talent got old and....wait for it....

              Rookies had to be inserted into the lineup right away.

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              • Captain Lemming
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                • Jun 2008
                • 15963

                #22
                Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                Lack of starts doesn't mean they didn't play. You've heard of subpackages, I presume?

                You know who starts rookies on opening day? ****ty teams.
                Just like I get in the mail from my bank-
                Money statement bro
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                In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                TCFCLTC-
                The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                • Captain Lemming
                  Legend
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 15963

                  #23
                  Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                  the owner of the team disagrees with you.


                  this isn?t the 70s anymore. If they?re not starting quickly. You?re being left behind,
                  especially with the rookie salary caps in place.

                  not starting for 2 years because the great Larry Foote is in front of you ?
                  c?mon
                  We can just cut TJ or Minkah and draft their position in the first.

                  I have confidence we draft a starter if we do that.
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                  In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                  TCFCLTC-
                  The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                  • Captain Lemming
                    Legend
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 15963

                    #24
                    The desperate need to start rookies is how, Jarvis, Burns, Davis, and Bush happen.

                    I am willing to draft best available at a loaded position to let a future all pro like Cam ride the pine ON THE LEAGUES NUMBER ONE DEFENSE in scoring AND yardage any day over having to reach for need.
                    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 05-26-2023, 01:33 PM.
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                    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                    TCFCLTC-
                    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                    • whisper
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2020
                      • 9423

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                      The desperate need to start rookies is how, Jarvis, Burns, Davis, and Bush happen.

                      I am willing to draft best available at a loaded position to let a future all pro like Cam ride the pine ON THE LEAGUES NUMBER ONE DEFENSE in scoring AND yardage any day over having to reach for need.
                      I can see why you see things "unclearly." It's not an "either or" situation. Anyone who thinks in such a way gets hoodwinked easily.

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                      • Steel Maniac
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 19472

                        #26
                        Originally posted by whisper
                        I can see why you see things "unclearly." It's not an "either or" situation. Anyone who thinks in such a way gets hoodwinked easily.
                        hoodwinked.....hahahahahhahahahahaha.

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