Spending In FA Does Not = Wins

[Northern_Blitz]

Moral of the story: Bad franchises who try to buy a championship will fail, but good teams/franchises can find the missing piece or two to put them over the top. The Steelers should act like the latter.

My guess is that most "good franchises" don't play this game very much because it's a game with a negative expected value. I think we're in that camp. Sounds like we were willing to pay Brown Jr. (who I think may be a good bet in UFA), but he decided to go to a contender instead. And then when we didn't get him, we didn't just go spend a lot of money on a T to spend a lot of money on a T.

The "bad franchises" are the ones who think they that can successfully play this game over the medium term and win.

[whisper]

Awwww, no more bingo bango banjo affirmation posts when I post something you agree with? Sad...

Oh no, bingo, bango still exist, just not every time.

[Captain Lemming]

Awwww, no more bingo bango banjo affirmation posts when I post something you agree with? Sad...

You waver too much in your allegiance to team negativity therefore you are a traitor. Don’t you know it’s all or nothing for those guys.

[whisper]

Exactly, you need to look at the entire set. Not just the ones you like for your argument.

And even the one he picked isn't great because we had the same record they did.

Same record, but they not only won their div. and made the playoffs, they WON a playoff game. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Wrong bucko. Bad example.

[Captain Lemming]

Moral of the story: Bad franchises who try to buy a championship will fail, but good teams/franchises can find the missing piece or two to put them over the top. The Steelers should act like the latter.

I don’t entirely disagree with this. But I think the foundation has to be solid drafts. We have too many needs for adding a high dollar free agent to work because of poor drafts 2018-2020.

Bottom line, without drafting well you cannot contend depending on free agency to overcome bad drafts.

I think that in a year or two if we draft well, we CAN make a splash signing or two to put us over the top with a couple years on Kenny’s deal.

[NorthCoast]

Same record, but they not only won their div. and made the playoffs, they WON a playoff game. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Wrong bucko. Bad example.

So if the Steelers spent what JAX spent in FA and ended up with 9 wins would you say it was money well spent??

[WindyCitySteel]

So if the Steelers spent what JAX spent in FA and ended up with 9 wins would you say it was money well spent??

The Jags were +6 in wins over the year before. So yeah, if the Steelers spent that much for no improvement in win total, that would be bad.

[feltdizz]

The Jags were +6 in wins over the year before. So yeah, if the Steelers spent that much for no improvement in win total, that would be bad.

chances you would applaud winning 6+ games to improve to 9 wins are extremely low.

[Northern_Blitz]

So if the Steelers spent what JAX spent in FA and ended up with 9 wins would you say it was money well spent??

No...he would say Tomlin is the worst coach ever and we should fire him.

[Northern_Blitz]

chances you would applaud winning 6+ games to improve to 9 wins are extremely low.

Imagine what this place would look like after a 3 win season...

I usually use this gif.

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I don’t entirely disagree with this. But I think the foundation has to be solid drafts. We have too many needs for adding a high dollar free agent to work because of poor drafts 2018-2020.

Bottom line, without drafting well you cannot contend depending on free agency to overcome bad drafts.

I think that in a year or two if we draft well, we CAN make a splash signing or two to put us over the top with a couple years on Kenny’s deal.

Did you criticize those 3 drafts after they were completed?

[whisper]

So if the Steelers spent what JAX spent in FA and ended up with 9 wins would you say it was money well spent??

IF we only won a total of 3 games the season before and we not only won our division but also won a playoff game, hell yea. Boom, shalackalacka boom.

[WindyCitySteel]

chances you would applaud winning 6+ games to improve to 9 wins are extremely low.

Sorry, not true. Chances you and others would celebrate going from 9-7-1 to 9-8 as a monumental coaching accomplishment by Tomlin, however, are 100%.

[Northern_Blitz]

Sorry, not true. Chances you and others would celebrate going from 9-7-1 to 9-8 as a monumental coaching accomplishment by Tomlin, however, are 100%.

I thought you liked PFF for the context?

I also think celebrate is a strong word. Maybe thought it was reasonable and above expectations.

Jax is one year ahead of us in their rebuild. And I think everyone agrees they got a better QB than we did. They were coming off a 3 win season at this point in their rebuild.

[whisper]

I thought you liked PFF for the context?

I also think celebrate is a strong word. Maybe thought it was reasonable and above expectations.

Jax is one year ahead of us in their rebuild. And I think everyone agrees they got a better QB than we did. They were coming off a 3 win season at this point in their rebuild.

Let's not get it twisted: The OP said spending FA $ does not = more wins. I gave a real life example of where Jax spent the most FA $ and also won 6 more games, won the div., AND won in the playoff as well, period, end of story, cannot be disputed or denied. In their case, spending more FA $ did = more wins. Period. That is all. That is a fact.