Edmunds sends Tweet thanking Steelers

[Northern_Blitz]

He seems like a good guy. I wish him well. But as a first round pick, he was a disappointment. I had a third round game on him when he was drafted . He is not much better than Kazee who produces much more splash plays. We should NOT have a knee jerk reaction and waste a first or second round pick on a safety.

I think he's probably about what a reasonable expectation for a late 1st round would be.

Solid, but not spectacular. Consistent starter, but not probowl or all pro.

You want to hit on guys better than this (like we did with Watt). But my guess is that at least half of 28th OA picks do worse than TE.

This is why I hate the "he was a 1st round pick" tag. The difference in value from 1.1 to 1.32 is probably similar to the difference in value from 1.32 to the end of the draft. It's not reasonable to compare a top 5 pick to the last few picks of the 1st round.

[Northern_Blitz]

well, it also does the help when some of those people work hard to discount these players because they want a star at the position.

If the argument is "he's not Troy", I think we all agree.

But I don't think anyone will ever be like Troy again. At least not in my lifetime.

[NJ-STEELER]

Where did we draft Chris hope? 3rd round.

About the sane type of production.

Unfortunately, that’s were edmunds should have been drafted.
also I bet he wouldn’t be pricing himself off the Steelers right now either if was selected there.

[NorthCoast]

I distinctly remember missing him being on the field for 3rd & 10 on the first drive of the Bills game.

Yep. Sometimes the worth of a player is clear when they are not playing.

[crushedspirit]

He just signed with the Eagles on a 1 yr contract

[NorthCoast]

He just signed with the Eagles on a 1 yr contract

I am sure that is what the Steelers offered and probably for less money. Edmunds probably wanted a multiyear deal but no one was biting.

[Captain Lemming]

Your entire analysis MO is doing a quick lookup of counting stats on profootballreference, or parroting combine measurements. This is why it's hard to take said analysis seriously.

Agreed. Just a year ago some of us were foolish enough to use silly “counting stats” (122 tackles) over the geniuses at pff whose metrics gave Edmonds a higher pff score than Minkah in 2021.

How time has proved those “counting stats” wrong.

[Oviedo]

Agreed. Just a year ago some of us were foolish enough to use silly “counting stats” over the geniuses at pff whose metrics gave Edmonds a higher pff score than Minkah in 2021.

PFF is the altar at which Fantasy Football nerds pray

[Captain Lemming]

PFF is the altar at which Fantasy Football nerds pray

Nah, I respectfully disagree. They are kinda the opposite. FF uses the “counting stats” that pff proponents despise.

I would suggest that the intent has merit, counting stats CAN be a result of factors that do not reflect 100 percent how well someone in actually playing.

However, they overcompensate in a way that misses some real meaning in counting stats.

[Steel Maniac]

Eagles signed S Terrell Edmunds, formerly of the Steelers, to a one-year contract.

Edmunds is likely to take over the role vacated by C.J. Gardner-Johnson after he left for the Lions on a one-year contract. A former first-round pick by the Steelers in 2018, Edmunds has appeared in 15 or more games through his first five seasons in the league but has struggled at times in pass coverage. He allowed a career-high four receiving touchdowns last season while opposing receivers have converted 67.2 percent of their targets into receptions when facing him.
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[Buzz]

Eagles signed S Terrell Edmunds, formerly of the Steelers, to a one-year contract.

Edmunds is likely to take over the role vacated by C.J. Gardner-Johnson after he left for the Lions on a one-year contract. A former first-round pick by the Steelers in 2018, Edmunds has appeared in 15 or more games through his first five seasons in the league but has struggled at times in pass coverage. He allowed a career-high four receiving touchdowns last season while opposing receivers have converted 67.2 percent of their targets into receptions when facing him.
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Well, we nabbed a couple of their guys, guess it's to be expected
He'd become a solid player in our D-backfield
hope we kind find someone as good to replace him

[WindyCitySteel]

PFF is the altar at which Fantasy Football nerds pray

Actually it's the opposite. ESPN.com is the alter at which FFL nerds pray, FFL isn't based on counting stats at all.

Example: Purdy throws a 0-yard out that Deebo houses for 80 yards, Pickett throws a perfect dime 50 yards downfield that DJ drops. ESPN/passer rating will grade Purdy higher, PFF will grade Pickett higher.

PFF is of course correct.

Passer rating is incorrectly 100% credited to the QB, whereas it should be called "Passing Game Rating", where QB, WR, OL, play calling, luck all play into it.

[Captain Lemming]

Actually it's the opposite. ESPN.com is the alter at which FFL nerds pray, FFL isn't based on counting stats at all.

Example: Purdy throws a 0-yard out that Deebo houses for 80 yards, Pickett throws a perfect dime 50 yards downfield that DJ drops. ESPN/passer rating will grade Purdy higher, PFF will grade Pickett higher.

PFF is of course correct.

Passer rating is incorrectly 100% credited to the QB, whereas it should be called "Passing Game Rating", where QB, WR, OL, play calling, luck all play into it.

Yes this is correct.

I would suggest however, that pff errs on the extreme in dismissing counting stats and that the judging individual plays can also lose context.

Now back to THIS subject which was a safety not QB.

The “counting” stat that Minkah led all secondary players in tackles in 2021 is dismissed because the front 7 did not do its job. There is “some” merit to that fact.

But with that in mind, this ignores the fact that Edmonds WHO HAD THAT SAME ADVANTAGE, and who had a higher score than Minkah was 21st in tackles. Why?

Minkah not only had WAY MORE tackles he ALLOWED FEWER receptions than higher pff scoring Edmonds.

Do you honestly believe that not only was Minkah one of the worst playing safeties in the league, he played worse than Edmonds?

[WindyCitySteel]

Yes this is correct.

I would suggest however, that pff errs on the extreme in dismissing counting stats and that the judging individual plays can also lose context.

Now back to THIS subject which was a safety not QB.

The “counting” stat that Minkah led all secondary players in tackles in 2021 is dismissed because the front 7 did not do its job. There is “some” merit to that fact.

But with that in mind, this ignores the fact that Edmonds WHO HAD THAT SAME ADVANTAGE, and who had a higher score than Minkah was 21st in tackles. Why?

Minkah not only had WAY MORE tackles he ALLOWED FEWER receptions than higher pff scoring Edmonds.

Do you honestly believe that not only was Minkah one of the worst playing safeties in the league, he played worse than Edmonds?

I did not watch multiple angles of every play on All-22 by both players, so I can't answer. Is it possible that Minkah got beat a lot but receivers dropped balls or the QB sailed them? Or didn't even look the receiver's way?

[NJ-STEELER]

170 1 year contract in free agency thus far