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  • whisper
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    • Mar 2020
    • 9423

    Upgrade at S?



    Byard is good. If we can afford him, it would upgrade the secondary. I am starting to like what I am seeing with the new GM group.
  • Oviedo
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    • May 2008
    • 23698

    #2
    I still believe that Edmunds will be back and that isn't bad
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • LAMBERT72
      Backup
      • Nov 2022
      • 113

      #3
      At this poing we need a safety, a solid safety badly... Jordan Battle at 3rd round?

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      • Captain Lemming
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        • Jun 2008
        • 15963

        #4
        Originally posted by whisper
        https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news...ds-kevin-byard

        Byard is good. If we can afford him, it would upgrade the secondary. I am starting to like what I am seeing with the new GM group.
        Sure I’d love to have him over Edmonds.

        But if he became available it would be because he refused a pay cut to start with. He ain’t gonna want what this article suggests. Will he get “less” than his current deal in a weak market? Sure.

        Will we be able to snag him at the range this article suggests? Not a chance.

        Too many teams who could use ONE elite safety for us to hoard TWO.
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        In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

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        • Captain Lemming
          Legend
          • Jun 2008
          • 15963

          #5
          Originally posted by LAMBERT72
          At this poing we need a safety, a solid safety badly... Jordan Battle at 3rd round?
          Kazee IS a “solid” safety, as is Edmonds.
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          In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

          TCFCLTC-
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          • Blitzer
            Pro Bowler
            • Nov 2022
            • 1069

            #6
            They upgraded at safety when Kazee was signed. now get Edmunds back for depth

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            • whisper
              Legend
              • Mar 2020
              • 9423

              #7
              Originally posted by LAMBERT72
              At this poing we need a safety, a solid safety badly... Jordan Battle at 3rd round?
              3rd round a tad early to me. OT, DL, CB, LB 1st.

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              • whisper
                Legend
                • Mar 2020
                • 9423

                #8
                Originally posted by Blitzer
                They upgraded at safety when Kazee was signed. now get Edmunds back for depth
                Only if he comes cheap.

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                • Oviedo
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 23698

                  #9
                  How about John Johnson who was released by the Browns?
                  "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                  • Joel Buchsbaum
                    Legend
                    • Jan 2021
                    • 7362

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                    Kazee IS a “solid” safety, as is Edmonds.
                    We don't really need to upgrade the Safety spot as much as other units. We have a legit star player in his prime and two other guys who can play well enough to make the unit not a primary need in the 2023 draft and free agency.
                    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                    • crushedspirit
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Feb 2021
                      • 2175

                      #11
                      Pump the brakes a bit on Kazee, a player who I wanted them to re-sign. He played limited snaps last season, and the last time he was a starter in Dallas, he was bad.

                      Safety is not a primary need, but not a position I would be happy to hand over to Damontae and call it a day without some backup plan.

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                      • Oviedo
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 23698

                        #12
                        Originally posted by crushedspirit
                        Pump the brakes a bit on Kazee, a player who I wanted them to re-sign. He played limited snaps last season, and the last time he was a starter in Dallas, he was bad.

                        Safety is not a primary need, but not a position I would be happy to hand over to Damontae and call it a day without some backup plan.
                        Totally agree. Kazee is no where as effective as Edmunds. He is an add on..not the main guy

                        Need to bring Edmunds back
                        Last edited by Oviedo; 03-20-2023, 05:35 PM.
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                        • Captain Lemming
                          Legend
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 15963

                          #13
                          Originally posted by crushedspirit
                          Pump the brakes a bit on Kazee, a player who I wanted them to re-sign. He played limited snaps last season, and the last time he was a starter in Dallas, he was bad.
                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          Totally agree. Kazee is no where as effective as Edmunds. He is an add on..not the main guy

                          Need to bring Edmunds back
                          2021 “Cowboy” starter Kazee allowed a 85 QB when targeted.

                          If THAT is bad what is a 116 QB rating when Edmonds was targeted last season.
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                          In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                          TCFCLTC-
                          The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                          • Captain Lemming
                            Legend
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 15963

                            #14
                            As I look the disparity is worse than I thought.

                            Kazee has-
                            14 picks
                            7 forced fumbles
                            In his career .

                            Edmonds has
                            5 picks and
                            ZERO forced fumbles.

                            That is FOUR Kazee turnovers for every ONE Edmonds has.

                            Kazee has over 1000 fewer career snaps than Edmonds.
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                            In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                            TCFCLTC-
                            The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                            • Captain Lemming
                              Legend
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 15963

                              #15
                              Steelers never gave up more than 16 points in any the 4 Kazee starts. He is no Minkah or TJ but….

                              Just MAYBE we give the guy who had a when targeted QB rate of 45 A LITTLE credit for that?
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                              In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                              TCFCLTC-
                              The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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