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  • WindyCitySteel
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    • Nov 2011
    • 14059

    #16
    Originally posted by NorthCoast
    You're welcome to your opinion but not every starter was 'poor' or 'overpaid'.
    Same PFF graded him at 66.9, five points down from his 2021 season, 2.5 lower than the much-maligned Trai Turner's 2021 grade for the Steelers.

    Is that what you thought you paid for?

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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23597

      #17
      Will the complaining about ignoring the OL continue? This is a solid move.

      Doing what they do...position themselves for max flexibility in the draft

      I could now actually see a WR at #17 or #32, but still think CB, DL and ILB biggest needs
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • Oviedo
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 23597

        #18
        Originally posted by NorthCoast
        This is the Weidl effect 100%. I mean, first Herbig, then Holcomb, now Seumao. All players he is familiar with from the NFC. You simply cannot complain about the Steelers giving OL attention it needed.

        Steelers becoming Eagles West.
        I said before that Weidl may be our very best off season move
        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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        • Oviedo
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 23597

          #19
          Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
          Daniels,Dotson, Herbig n now Seumalo should be a heated competition to watch. Depth for sure.
          Is Dotson really even an option????

          Worse player on the OL last year
          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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          • Prowler
            Pro Bowler
            • Apr 2010
            • 1665

            #20
            I'll give management credit for trying to improve the OL. Of course we'll have too see how it works out. If we can draft an OT with the first pick, and C John Michael Schmitz with the second we could one of the best o-lines in the NFL. Adios to both Dotson and Green.

            Sumo, welcome to the Steel City.








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            • Oviedo
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 23597

              #21
              Originally posted by Prowler
              I'll give management credit for trying to improve the OL. Of course we'll have too see how it works out. If we can draft an OT with the first pick, and C John Michael Schmitz with the second we could one of the best o-lines in the NFL. Adios to both Dotson and Green.

              Sumo, welcome to the Steel City.
              I think there is ZERO chance they draftC John Michael Schmitz with the second pick after making the moves they did in free agency. I think there is a very real possibility that Daniels goes to Center and Herbig and Samo are the starting Guards. daniels came out of college as a Center
              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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              • Steel Maniac
                Banned
                • Apr 2017
                • 19472

                #22
                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                This is the Weidl effect 100%. I mean, first Herbig, then Holcomb, now Seumao. All players he is familiar with from the NFC. You simply cannot complain about the Steelers giving OL attention it needed.

                Steelers becoming Eagles West.
                Stepping back, I too see the plan of quality depth on the line. Good idea. Weidl definitely showing his influence already. If these additions are true depth upgrades, we could be on to something.

                Oviedo could be right in that this may allow then to go into another direction at #17 other than O-line. I hope not but but that now could be the plan.

                Need solid talent on the offensive side of the ball in those trenches. I don’t think they will go O-line with more than one pick now. Bummer.

                My mock in April will be very different than what it would have been in February.

                They are trying to fix things on that O-line. From the backend and hopefully to the front.

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                • hawaiiansteel
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 34201

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  I think there is ZERO chance they draftC John Michael Schmitz with the second pick after making the moves they did in free agency.
                  agreed, we have addressed our IOL through free agency.

                  I still wouldn't rule out drafting an OT early, however.
                  Steel Maniac's Time-Based Prediction: Lamar Jackson will be a bust and total flop in the NFL.

                  What Actually Happened: Lamar Jackson became the youngest two-time NFL MVP winner ever.

                  Gloat gloat gloat


                  Boom........Knuckle up. Punk.

                  My IT guy...
                  Hahahahahahaha

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                  • whisper
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2020
                    • 9423

                    #24
                    Originally posted by SteelBucks
                    Started all 20 games for the Eagles last season and only allowed one sack. Dominant run blocker.

                    Khan and Weidl working late night!
                    I'm just curious how this pans out. Supposely we had one obvious OG spot of need. We have now signed two OGs right? LG was the problem spot, with Dotson - who some claimed in here was the best OG in his draft class - failing to man the spot. Now this guy and Herbig? Where does Daniel play?

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                    • Prowler
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 1665

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      I think there is ZERO chance they draftC John Michael Schmitz with the second pick after making the moves they did in free agency. I think there is a very real possibility that Daniels goes to Center and Herbig and Samo are the starting Guards. daniels came out of college as a Center
                      I don't believe there is zero chance that we draft Schmitz, but I do agree with you that it isn't likely. I was merely stating my preferred option to draft Schmitz. Nevertheless, I'm glad management is making changes on the o-line and at ILB.








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                      • NJ-STEELER
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 12563

                        #26
                        I think they’re happy with cole at center.
                        Daniels hasn’t played much of any center in the pros. I doubt they try him there.

                        guessing herbig is the back up on the interior cone game day.
                        we’ll see if they’re done with the tackle position.
                        one more guy there and this can turn from a negative play unit for the last few years into a positive one.

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                        • whisper
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2020
                          • 9423

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                          Yes the depth and the starters in many cases were poor or overpaid. The Steelers have 11.28 million in cap " dead money " and we pissed away draft picks for players we cut next year. This stinks.

                          At least we appear to have better cap management this year. This is not so say I am sold on Khan being the GM. Let's see who he drafts and how the players pan out.


                          Odd are, he and Weidl will out-perform the arrogant/lazy Colbert/Cool Shades pairing. They had been really shlting the bed recently.

                          21 1 Najee Harris 24 RB - If we're being honest, he hasn't turned out as a 1st round RB. He just hasn't.
                          2 Pat Freiermuth 55 TE - Not bad, but hasn't really flowered yet.
                          3 Kendrick Green 87 OL - A poor pick,no matter how you slice it. Colbert picked the wrong guy to be cocky about.
                          4 Dan Moore 128 OL - Bad pick, no matter how much they tried to force feed him as starting LT. Just not good.
                          4 Buddy Johnson 140 LB - no.
                          5 Isaiahh Loudermilk 156 DE - Meh
                          6 Quincy Roche 216 DL - no.
                          7 Tre Norwood 245 DB - no.
                          7 Pressley Harvin III 254 P - A Cool Shades FAIL.

                          2020
                          2 Chase Claypool - A failed pick, big time. May re-coop after foolish Bears' trade, but he was a poor pick.
                          3 Alex Highsmith - Finally, a hit.
                          4 Anthony McFarland Jr. 124 RB - A FAIL MD pick.
                          4 Kevin Dotson 135 G - FAIL pick (even though some in here claimed he was the best OG in the draft).
                          6 Antoine Brooks Jr. 198 S - A MD pick, FAIL again.
                          7 Carlos Davis 232 DT - no.

                          2019
                          1 Devin Bush Jr. 10 LB - Colossal FAIL, no matter how you look at it.
                          3 Diontae Johnson - An "OK" pick, no AB
                          3 Justin Layne 83 CB - FAIL
                          4 Benny Snell Jr. 122 RB - Not the worst, not great.
                          5 Zach Gentry 141 TE - OK
                          6 Sutton Smith 175 DE - no.
                          6 Isaiah Buggs 192 DT - no.
                          6 Ulysees Gilbert 207 LB - no.
                          7 Derwin Gray 219 T - Yaaaaaaaaay, another MD pick is wasted.

                          2018 1 Terrell Edmunds - mostly wasted 1st round pick, go VA schools!
                          2 James Washington - Mostly wasted
                          3 Mason Rudolph 76 QB - Mostly srved his purpose as a #2 QB. Not the "1st round talent" they bragged of.
                          3 Chukwuma Okorafor 92 T - Decent enough for a 3rd.
                          5 Marcus Allen 148 S - OK for 5th
                          5 Jaylen Samuels 165 TE - no.
                          7 Joshua Frazier 246 DT - no.

                          2017
                          1 T.J. Watt 30 OLB - Biggest hit they've had
                          2 JuJu Smith-Schuster 62 WR - Nice pick
                          3 Cameron Sutton 94 CB - decent hit, couldn't keep
                          3 James Conner 105 RB - decent
                          4 Joshua Dobbs 135 QB - meh
                          5 Brian Allen 173 DB - no.
                          6 Colin Holba 213 LS
                          7 Keion Adams 248 OLB - no

                          2016
                          1 Artie Burns 25 CB -Terrible 1st round miss
                          2 Sean Davis 58 CB - Another MD bust pick. No one noticing a Cool Shades trend here?
                          3 Javon Hargrave 89 DT - Solid
                          4 Jerald Hawkins 123 T - no.
                          6 Travis Feeney 220 OLB - no.
                          7 Demarcus Ayers 229 WR 2016 - no
                          7 Tyler Matakevich 246 OLB 2022 - I Like him

                          2015
                          1 Bud Dupree 22 OLB - Near miss. Not a bust, but...
                          2 Senquez Golson 56 CB - A waste.
                          3 Sammie Coates 87 WR - Showed some promise but...
                          4 Doran Grant 121 CB - no
                          5 Jesse James 160 TE - OK value
                          6 Leterrius Walton 199 DT - no
                          6 Anthony Chickillo 212 DE - no
                          7 Gerod Holliman 239 S- no

                          Not really much to brag about. Show me a span of the Cowher era with such bleak drafting.

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                          • WindyCitySteel
                            Legend
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 14059

                            #28
                            Originally posted by whisper
                            Odd are, he and Weidl will out-perform the arrogant/lazy Colbert/Cool Shades pairing. They had been really shlting the bed recently.

                            21 1 Najee Harris 24 RB - If we're being honest, he hasn't turned out as a 1st round RB. He just hasn't.
                            2 Pat Freiermuth 55 TE - Not bad, but hasn't really flowered yet.
                            3 Kendrick Green 87 OL - A poor pick,no matter how you slice it. Colbert picked the wrong guy to be cocky about.
                            4 Dan Moore 128 OL - Bad pick, no matter how much they tried to force feed him as starting LT. Just not good.
                            4 Buddy Johnson 140 LB - no.
                            5 Isaiahh Loudermilk 156 DE - Meh
                            6 Quincy Roche 216 DL - no.
                            7 Tre Norwood 245 DB - no.
                            7 Pressley Harvin III 254 P - A Cool Shades FAIL.

                            2020
                            2 Chase Claypool - A failed pick, big time. May re-coop after foolish Bears' trade, but he was a poor pick.
                            3 Alex Highsmith - Finally, a hit.
                            4 Anthony McFarland Jr. 124 RB - A FAIL MD pick.
                            4 Kevin Dotson 135 G - FAIL pick (even though some in here claimed he was the best OG in the draft).
                            6 Antoine Brooks Jr. 198 S - A MD pick, FAIL again.
                            7 Carlos Davis 232 DT - no.

                            2019
                            1 Devin Bush Jr. 10 LB - Colossal FAIL, no matter how you look at it.
                            3 Diontae Johnson - An "OK" pick, no AB
                            3 Justin Layne 83 CB - FAIL
                            4 Benny Snell Jr. 122 RB - Not the worst, not great.
                            5 Zach Gentry 141 TE - OK
                            6 Sutton Smith 175 DE - no.
                            6 Isaiah Buggs 192 DT - no.
                            6 Ulysees Gilbert 207 LB - no.
                            7 Derwin Gray 219 T - Yaaaaaaaaay, another MD pick is wasted.

                            2018 1 Terrell Edmunds - mostly wasted 1st round pick, go VA schools!
                            2 James Washington - Mostly wasted
                            3 Mason Rudolph 76 QB - Mostly srved his purpose as a #2 QB. Not the "1st round talent" they bragged of.
                            3 Chukwuma Okorafor 92 T - Decent enough for a 3rd.
                            5 Marcus Allen 148 S - OK for 5th
                            5 Jaylen Samuels 165 TE - no.
                            7 Joshua Frazier 246 DT - no.

                            2017
                            1 T.J. Watt 30 OLB - Biggest hit they've had
                            2 JuJu Smith-Schuster 62 WR - Nice pick
                            3 Cameron Sutton 94 CB - decent hit, couldn't keep
                            3 James Conner 105 RB - decent
                            4 Joshua Dobbs 135 QB - meh
                            5 Brian Allen 173 DB - no.
                            6 Colin Holba 213 LS
                            7 Keion Adams 248 OLB - no

                            2016
                            1 Artie Burns 25 CB -Terrible 1st round miss
                            2 Sean Davis 58 CB - Another MD bust pick. No one noticing a Cool Shades trend here?
                            3 Javon Hargrave 89 DT - Solid
                            4 Jerald Hawkins 123 T - no.
                            6 Travis Feeney 220 OLB - no.
                            7 Demarcus Ayers 229 WR 2016 - no
                            7 Tyler Matakevich 246 OLB 2022 - I Like him

                            2015
                            1 Bud Dupree 22 OLB - Near miss. Not a bust, but...
                            2 Senquez Golson 56 CB - A waste.
                            3 Sammie Coates 87 WR - Showed some promise but...
                            4 Doran Grant 121 CB - no
                            5 Jesse James 160 TE - OK value
                            6 Leterrius Walton 199 DT - no
                            6 Anthony Chickillo 212 DE - no
                            7 Gerod Holliman 239 S- no

                            Not really much to brag about. Show me a span of the Cowher era with such bleak drafting.
                            This is why I'm not as down on the Rams' methodology as much as others. Is there anyone on that list other than Watt you wouldn't trade for a proven player?

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                            • whisper
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2020
                              • 9423

                              #29
                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              agreed, we have addressed our IOL through free agency.

                              I still wouldn't rule out drafting an OT early, however.
                              They HAVE TO draft OT early, HAVE TO. Or else all these signings will be a waste of time.

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                              • SteelBucks
                                Legend
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 8075

                                #30
                                Originally posted by whisper
                                They HAVE TO draft OT early, HAVE TO. Or else all these signings will be a waste of time.
                                IMO they take one at 17 if someone falls to them. Will definitely take one by 32.

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