Contextual look at Pickett's deep ball accuracy

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  • Eich
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    • Jul 2010
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    #76
    Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
    You might be right, I don't know if Lamar would have reached his full potential in Pittsburgh, but he was on his 2nd MVP season pace before getting hurt this year. Dude's a star.
    No question he's a star. A super athlete. I just don't think he will be remembered as a top QB nor do I think he will win a ring with his style. But his style could evolve. I've seen him throw some really pretty passes at times. He could go all Nick Foles / Joe Flacco some season and just be in-the-zone/on fire in the passing game. He'd be frightening if he could find that in his game.

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    • Steel Maniac
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      • Apr 2017
      • 19472

      #77
      Originally posted by Eich
      No question he's a star. A super athlete. I just don't think he will be remembered as a top QB nor do I think he will win a ring with his style. But his style could evolve. I've seen him throw some really pretty passes at times. He could go all Nick Foles / Joe Flacco some season and just be in-the-zone/on fire in the passing game. He'd be frightening if he could find that in his game.
      Please go look at the particulars of the ravens playoff loses. We’ll talk about each one after you do.

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      • Steel Maniac
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        • Apr 2017
        • 19472

        #78
        Originally posted by Steel Maniac
        Please go look at the particulars of the ravens playoff loses. We’ll talk about each one after you do.
        The Lamar Jackson discussion were moved over to the NFL forums box. If I want to talk about Lamar, it will be over there.

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        • Steel Maniac
          Banned
          • Apr 2017
          • 19472

          #79
          Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
          He's got you dead to rights, SM.

          As a neutral observer I'm a Lamar fan, was pissed when the Steelers passed on him for Edmunds. Don't know that he would have had the same success here, though, but you never know.
          Windy,
          If you want to question me on a point, please do so. I can factually support what I say. But do not bring in ( invite) hawaain/ lemmings quotes into something you’re asking me about. I have both his personas on permanent ignore.

          If you want to bring him into discussion you’re having with me , then it is a discussion you can have with him alone. I’m automatically out.
          Last edited by Steel Maniac; 03-12-2023, 01:04 AM.

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          • hawaiiansteel
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            • May 2008
            • 35314

            #80
            Originally posted by Steel Maniac
            But do not bring in ( invite) hawaain/ lemmings quotes into something you’re asking me about. I have both his personas on permanent ignore
            so you still continue to spread this lie around in every thread you post in, huh?

            since you're so sure about this, why won't you accept the bet I offered you?

            we all know why...

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            • NJ-STEELER
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              • May 2008
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              #81
              Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
              You might be right, I don't know if Lamar would have reached his full potential in Pittsburgh, but he was on his 2nd MVP season pace before getting hurt this year. Dude's a star.
              say what?

              guy choked away the Miami and giants game while he was “healthy”

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              • NJ-STEELER
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                • May 2008
                • 12563

                #82
                Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                You might be right, I don't know if Lamar would have reached his full potential in Pittsburgh, but he was on his 2nd MVP season pace before getting hurt this year. Dude's a star.
                At the time he went out.
                Josh Allen was the clear front runner for mvp

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                • WindyCitySteel
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                  • Nov 2011
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                  #83
                  Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                  say what?

                  guy choked away the Miami and giants game while he was “healthy”
                  If Ben had a game like he had against Miami, you'd blame the defense for "choking it away".

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                  • NJ-STEELER
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                    • May 2008
                    • 12563

                    #84
                    Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                    If Ben had a game like he had against Miami, you'd blame the defense for "choking it away".
                    So lamaar and harbaugh didn’t screw the defense by giving Miami only half the field to score on one drive?

                    if you, and others, give him the credit when he breaks a big run. As you should ( I agree)

                    then why wouldn’t he be the main blame when he tries to go for it on 4th down and gets stopped ??
                    they tried to do just that near midfield on 4th and short. Too obnoxious to think Miami can stop them there and score quickly
                    harbaugh outsmarting himself again with “analytics”

                    sorry, can’t have it both ways

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                    • hawaiiansteel
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                      • May 2008
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                      #85
                      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                      He's got you dead to rights, SM.

                      As a neutral observer I'm a Lamar fan, was pissed when the Steelers passed on him for Edmunds. Don't know that he would have had the same success here, though, but you never know.
                      Originally posted by Eich
                      He does

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                      • Steel Maniac
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                        • Apr 2017
                        • 19472

                        #86
                        Originally posted by crushedspirit
                        Curious how different studies can show vastly different numbers. ADJ% according to PFF on 20+ is 42.6% for Pickett on 47 attempts.
                        Yep… . That’s why you have to give more credence to the “ eye ball test” on certain things.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
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                          • May 2008
                          • 35314

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                          And...if you look at what Huntley did the previous year in several starts, he looked just as adequte as LJ.

                          So yeah...I don't think there's much drop off from LJ to Hundley.
                          LJ ahead of Baker, huh? wonder where Huntley would be in his year's redraft?

                          gloat gloat gloat

                          Redrafting the 2018 NFL Draft

                          As we redraft 2018, trades that were agreed to before the start of the draft will stay in place. But deals that took place during the draft itself will not be included.

                          1) Cleveland Browns: Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming

                          Original Pick: QB Baker Mayfield


                          The Cleveland Browns will stick with a quarterback in our alternate reality, but they’ll make the easy decision to choose Josh Allen over Baker Mayfield. Allen came off the board seventh in the actual draft, but he’s been the best overall player from the 2018 class.

                          Over the last three seasons, Allen has helped the Bills to a 37-12 record while averaging 4,411 yards passing and 36 touchdowns per season.

                          He finished second in MVP voting in 2020 and third in 2022.

                          A one-man wrecking crew, Allen has averaged 617 rushing yards and 7.6 rushing scores per season over his five-year career. He would have given the Browns their best quarterback in recent memory.

                          2) New York Giants: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville

                          Original Pick: RB Saquon Barkley


                          While Allen has posted a more consistent career thus far, Lamar Jackson has hit higher highs. He won the MVP award in 2019, his first season as a full-time starter. That year, Jackson set the NFL quarterback rushing record by posting 1,206 yards on the ground.

                          Jackson has missed time with injuries in recent years, but he’s a unique, dynamic threat that would have helped the New York Giants as they transitioned from Eli Manning. He could have helped New York prevent its dreadful run from 2018-21 when the club won just 19 games over a four-season span.

                          Now that five years have passed since the 2018 NFL Draft, it's time to reassess. Let's redraft the 2018 class and find new teams for Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and others.

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