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  • NorthCoast
    Legend
    • Sep 2008
    • 24990

    #31
    Seems the numbers are not there yet for Amazon prime. I can tell you a part of the missing audience are people like my folks who don't own a smart tv or streaming device and have no interest (or ability) to set it up. If the game was broadcast I guarantee my dad would be tuned in. So they will have to make up those numbers from somewhere else. And if the stream quality continues to suffer (regardless of why) they might start losing audience:

    More details emerge regarding Amazon’s Chargers-Chiefs rating
    Posted by Mike Florio on September 24, 2022, 10:53 AM EDT

    NFL: SEP 15 Chargers at Chiefs

    There’s no dispute that the NFL draws a live audience unlike any other product, wherever the NFL televises its games. This year’s unprecedented shift from broadcast TV to exclusive streaming on Thursday nights sparks natural curiosity regarding the actual number of people who can and will seek out the game — and purchase the ability to watch it on Amazon Prime Video.

    The first test came in the first game of the second week of the 2022 regular season. Chargers at Chiefs. Nielsen, retained by Amazon to create apples-to-apples numbers (ideally) between streaming and TV, said Thursday that 13 million had tuned in for the game played a week earlier.

    On Friday, Austin Karp of Sports Business Journal added some details. With roughly 602,000 viewing the game on local TV in L.A. and another 555,000 in Kansas City, the streaming-only audience was 11.84 million.

    There are other details that are relevant to a full understanding of the Week Two audience. An industry source has explained to PFT that factors such as “co-viewing” (viewer per household) and same-day viewing (the official term is “time-shifting,” which makes it sound a lot more interesting than it is) need to be scrutinized in order to better understand the reported numbers. If those calculations were, for example, significantly higher than usual, they would drive up the total viewership.

    The fact remains that the ceiling for a game like Chargers-Chiefs on a three-letter network would have been at least 20 million. Thus, there’s plenty of work to be done to get streaming to where TV was and still is.

    Also, it’s just one game. A very good game. What will the numbers be for less compelling games, especially as matchups that looked good in May inevitably look worse as the teams involved play more and more games?

    At some point, we’ll see the audience numbers for Steelers-Browns. The quarterback matchup, relative to Chargers-Chiefs, didn’t help. The buzz from Nielsen releasing better-than-expected numbers for Chargers-Chiefs may have given the Week Three game a boost.

    It’s an interesting story because the league has deliberately sacrificed short-term eyeballs (but not cash) in the name of getting ahead of long-term trends. How long will it take for the long-term trends to come to fruition? And can Amazon (and, inevitably, other streaming services) capture the same audience that traditional TV continues to enjoy?

    Like the shift from three or four over-the-air networks to cable, audience size will likely shrink during the shift from traditional TV to streaming. But live NFL action continues to defy the trend toward on-demand viewing. Ultimately, time will tell whether the TV audiences to which the NFL has become accustomed will be replicated through streaming.
    Last edited by NorthCoast; 09-28-2022, 07:02 AM.

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    • Northern_Blitz
      Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 22827

      #32
      Turns out, people will watch a thing less if you force them to pay for it vs. when it's free.

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 26618

        #33
        Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
        Turns out, people will watch a thing less if you force them to pay for it vs. when it's free.
        I think Prime, ESPN and NFLN know this already… lol.

        They don’t care.
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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 26618

          #34
          This Prime Vision channel is crazy. Its like watching Madden and also has the route trails on most downs.

          Also shows real time stats like how long the QB holds the ball before passing.
          Steelers 34
          Iggles 24

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          • Eich
            Legend
            • Jul 2010
            • 6583

            #35
            Stream quality is trash for me right now.

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            • Eich
              Legend
              • Jul 2010
              • 6583

              #36
              Restarted the app and the quality came back to very good

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              • Oviedo
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 23665

                #37
                Originally posted by Eich
                Stream quality is trash for me right now.
                Last week I found it is good on my computer but when I tried to watch it on my 85" it was a terrible picture
                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                • Eich
                  Legend
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 6583

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  Last week I found it is good on my computer but when I tried to watch it on my 85" it was a terrible picture
                  Watching now on my 70” via a 4k firestick and it’s very good. After restarting the app.

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                  • SteelBucks
                    Legend
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 8075

                    #39
                    Streaming is great for me tonight. A lot better than last week.

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 26618

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Eich
                      Watching now on my 70” via a 4k firestick and it’s very good. After restarting the app.
                      its even better if you go directly thru the TV if possible.

                      I have a 4K firestick but its even better on my TV app.
                      Steelers 34
                      Iggles 24

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                      • SteelerOfDeVille
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 8823

                        #41
                        those having trouble, pause it 10 seconds, then hit play. Just give it a little time to buffer for your TV (as it normally does on its own when you watch a movie).

                        I did that the first week and it's become my routine... no struggles at all
                        2013 MNF Executive Champion!

                        DeVille's final Mock
                        1.20 - Tailiese Fuaga, OT, Oregon St
                        2.51 - Zach Frazier, C, WVU
                        3.84 - Luke Mccaffery, WR, Rice
                        3.98 - Andru Phillips, CB, Kentucky
                        4.117 - Maason Smith, DT, LSU
                        6.178 - Travis Glover, OT, Ga State
                        6.195 - Dillon Johnson, RB, Washington

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                        • Rocky Mtn
                          Backup
                          • Jun 2022
                          • 492

                          #42
                          Mine has been smooth going every week so far. 77 inch.

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