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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23732

    Bizarro Steelers

    From ESPN. Botomline--offense leads the way.

    [url]http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13266548/bizarro-steelers-need-win-offense-nfl[/url]
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"
  • Jooser
    Legend
    • Jul 2008
    • 5081

    #2
    Seems I dreamt of this....hmmm

    ​2019 MNFE CHAMPION

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    • Djfan
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 5184

      #3
      They had to prioritize offense. The new rules make a defensive dominant team less than what it was a decade ago.
      Steel City Mafia
      So Cal Boss (Ret)
      [URL]http://www.anewsong.com[/URL]

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      • RuthlessBurgher
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 33208

        #4
        Originally posted by Djfan
        The new rules make a defensive dominant team less than what it was a decade ago.
        Is that why Seattle would be two time defending champs if their coach just made the easiest decision that even your grandmother would have made...handed the ball to Skittles on the goal line? And why the previous Super Bowl before that featured Baltimore vs. San Fran? Dominant defense is just as important as ever.
        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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        • Iron City Inc.
          Hall of Famer
          • Jun 2013
          • 3175

          #5
          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
          Is that why Seattle would be two time defending champs if their coach just made the easiest decision that even your grandmother would have made...handed the ball to Skittles on the goal line? And why the previous Super Bowl before that featured Baltimore vs. San Fran? Dominant defense is just as important as ever.
          I agree it's just that a dominant D in the 70's gave up 10 pts a game and today a dominant D gives up 20 points a game.

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          • Djfan
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 5184

            #6
            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
            Is that why Seattle would be two time defending champs if their coach just made the easiest decision that even your grandmother would have made...handed the ball to Skittles on the goal line? And why the previous Super Bowl before that featured Baltimore vs. San Fran? Dominant defense is just as important as ever.
            Ruth,

            Did I say that defense is irrelevant? No. Just less important.
            Steel City Mafia
            So Cal Boss (Ret)
            [URL]http://www.anewsong.com[/URL]

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            • RuthlessBurgher
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 33208

              #7
              The most important aspect is a franchise QB. The second most important is defense. Franchise QB + Defense wins championships. If you lack either of those two things, you are ultimately more pretender than true contender.
              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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              • NorthCoast
                Legend
                • Sep 2008
                • 25953

                #8
                it seems if you prevent your opponent from scoring more points than your team you will win a lot of games.

                the way i look at it, there are two ways to accomplish that, but the more consistent way has favored strong D over strong O. Most good offenses rely on a great QB and at least one other great offensive weapon (these days it seems to favor a WR). Lose one of the two, and the offense completely changes. my opinion, a defense can handle more missing playmakers and still perform better than an offense missing key guys.

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                • SanAntonioSteelerFan
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 8361

                  #9
                  So, the real question is ... do people think we have a SB-caliber defense this year?

                  (Offense - clearly so, IMO. Defense ... well, I'm asking your opinion because I'm not sure! I somehow think it comes down to Cortez Allen. And that is a scary thought ...).
                  Last edited by SanAntonioSteelerFan; 07-22-2015, 12:23 PM.


                  We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

                  HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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                  • RuthlessBurgher
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 33208

                    #10
                    I want Cortez to succeed as much as the next guy. We really could use a big, skilled corner to deal with some of the behemoth wideouts this league has to offer these days, and Cortez is our only CB over 6' right now. However, if it doesn't happen, then I don't think we are in dire straits with Will Gay as our #1, Antwan Blake as our #2, Senquez Golson as our #3, and Doran Grant as our #4, even if all of those guys are listed as either 5'9" or 5'10". Gay is solid and coming off his best season as a pro, I like Blake more than most (really like his feistiness and attitude back there), and the two rooks look promising.

                    I'm a little bit more worried about our safeties, since we are counting on Mike Mitchell and Shamarko Thomas to start (both huge question marks right now) with Will Allen the only bona fide depth behind them (and Will Allen is only a year younger than Troy Polamalu who we released because he got too old). Robert Golden and Ross Ventrone are pretty much only special team contributors at this point, and Gerod Holliman may never play in any actual NFL games if he doesn't get his tackling issues straightened out.

                    If Cortez does work out at corner, and we are able to start Tez and Gay with Blake and Golson contributing in nickel and dime situations, might they try Doran Grant out at safety with fellow Buckeye alum Will Allen as his tutor?
                    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                    • NorthCoast
                      Legend
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 25953

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                      I want Cortez to succeed as much as the next guy. We really could use a big, skilled corner to deal with some of the behemoth wideouts this league has to offer these days, and Cortez is our only CB over 6' right now. However, if it doesn't happen, then I don't think we are in dire straits with Will Gay as our #1, Antwan Blake as our #2, Senquez Golson as our #3, and Doran Grant as our #4, even if all of those guys are listed as either 5'9" or 5'10". Gay is solid and coming off his best season as a pro, I like Blake more than most (really like his feistiness and attitude back there), and the two rooks look promising.

                      I'm a little bit more worried about our safeties, since we are counting on Mike Mitchell and Shamarko Thomas to start (both huge question marks right now) with Will Allen the only bona fide depth behind them (and Will Allen is only a year younger than Troy Polamalu who we released because he got too old). Robert Golden and Ross Ventrone are pretty much only special team contributors at this point, and Gerod Holliman may never play in any actual NFL games if he doesn't get his tackling issues straightened out.

                      If Cortez does work out at corner, and we are able to start Tez and Gay with Blake and Golson contributing in nickel and dime situations, might they try Doran Grant out at safety with fellow Buckeye alum Will Allen as his tutor?
                      not in dire straits but in my mind huge questions; one proven vet and a collection of rookies and unproven talent. the way i see it, the Steelers had better hope for some Lake effect this season....

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                      • Jooser
                        Legend
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 5081

                        #12
                        I think we will ratchet up pressure on the QB this year with Heyward, Bud, Shazier and Timmy and in doing so we'll help out the secondary a bit. The secondary is indeed worrisome, however I think the BIG improvement we will see this year comes via the front 7. I think the secondary will still be burned from time to time, but with a brutish pass rush re-established, they will look better than they really are. You only have to look at past Steelers defenses and the Ravens D as of late to see this model unfold. Still, the secondary needs one solid "splash" play maker to emerge this season to put everything together.

                        This Bud's for you.... !!! (ya heard it here first folks)

                        -joos
                        Last edited by Jooser; 07-24-2015, 08:17 AM.
                        ​2019 MNFE CHAMPION

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                        • papillon
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 11334

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jooser
                          Seems I dreamt of this....hmmm


                          Wasn't this guy's face part of the "Lesion of Doom?"

                          Pappy
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                          The 2024 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

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                          2.51 - Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia
                          3.84 - Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan
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                          • Jooser
                            Legend
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 5081

                            #14
                            Originally posted by papillon
                            Wasn't this guy's face part of the "Lesion of Doom?"

                            Pappy
                            No, I think it was the Legion of Doom.
                            ​2019 MNFE CHAMPION

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                            • RuthlessBurgher
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jooser
                              No, I think it was the Legion of Doom.
                              Bizarro Superman was in the Legion of Doom. But years ago, there was a Brady-Bunch like jpeg called the Lesions of Doom created by someone here (FlaSteel, I think?), with a different villain in each box instead of Greg, Marcia, etc. (instead it was Lex Luthor, Solomon Grundy, etc.) except the names were replaced with different posters (HHH, Smartmonies, etc.).
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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