Mike Webster --> Dermontti Dawson --? Maurkice Pouncey

[Crash]

Can't blame Pouncey for the crap surface he plays on half the year. Blame ownership for making their players put up with it.

[ikestops85]

Can't blame Pouncey for the crap surface he plays on half the year. Blame ownership for making their players put up with it.

Another misconception in your mind. The players have been asked time and time again and they always vote to play on the grass ... not the field turf.

[Slapstick]

Another misconception in your mind. The players have been asked time and time again and they always vote to play on the grass ... not the field turf.

Where was Willie Parker playing when he broke his leg?

Where did Rashard tear his ACL?

Where did Casey tear his ACL?

What about Max?

[Crash]

Another misconception in your mind. The players have been asked time and time again and they always vote to play on the grass ... not the field turf.

That's what they SAY.

Then the player votes come out, and the Steelers players vote their OWN SURFACE at the worst field in the league.

[Crash]

Where was Willie Parker playing when he broke his leg?

Where did Rashard tear his ACL?

Where did Casey tear his ACL?

What about Max?

Exactly.

All except ONE of those, was on GRASS.

Grass isn't the cure all people think it is.

You have all this speed on offense, and come December and January their own field slows it down.

[Slapstick]

Exactly.

All except ONE of those, was on GRASS.

Grass isn't the cure all people think it is.

You have all this speed on offense, and come December and January their own field slows it down.

You missed the point:

How many were on the "muck" of Heinz Field?

[Crash]

You missed the point:

How many were on the "muck" of Heinz Field?

Plenty.

Ben twice, Polamalu twice, Pouncey twice.

That's just three players off the top.

Btw, Hampton according to fans who were there, may have been hurt during the traditional pre game wrestling match with Ike Taylor and others in Denver, which would have NOTHING to do with the game, and could also explain Taylor's piss poor effort.

[Slapstick]

[URL]http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/04/30/football-knee-injuries-likelier-on-artificial-turf-than-grass/[/URL]

[Crash]

Wonderful.

I'm sure Pouncey, Ben, and Polamalu agree.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Our field definitely impacts the effectiveness of the kicking game in a negative fashion, but I don't see a huge correlation to greater injuries, home vs. away, for us. I could see more pulled muscles (such as hamstring injuries) on sloppy grass surfaces if the grass suddenly gives out beneath your feet, but the more serious injuries involving ligament tears (such as ACL injuries) would be more likely to occur when your cleats are planted in artificial turf which does not give, and your body gets twisted in an awkward direction. I would think concussions that occur when helmets hit the turf would be more likely on artificial surfaces as opposed to grass as well.

[phillyesq]

Can't blame Pouncey for the crap surface he plays on half the year. Blame ownership for making their players put up with it.

You've watched every Steelers game since who knows when. Which of the 3 centers did you prefer -- I'd prefer to read that than a rehashing of the field arguments.

[Crash]

Dawson's the best in Steelers history and it's not even worth debating.

[hawaiiansteel]

Dawson's the best in Steelers history and it's not even worth debating.

I agree, with Mike Webster second.

Maurkice Pouncey may one day deserve to be in this conversation, but not yet...

[NorthCoast]

Can't blame Pouncey for the crap surface he plays on half the year. Blame ownership for making their players put up with it.

if there were any sound statistics that point to grass leading to more injuries don't think for one minute the NFL wouldn't mandate a switch to turf, especially in this day and age of 'player safety'.

[phillyesq]

Dawson's the best in Steelers history and it's not even worth debating.

He is certainly the best I've seen, but I didn't see Webster (except maybe a few years at the end).