So, how did drafting pickett set us back?

[whatever]

People seem to use ‘missing on a qb pick in the first round or first couple rounds will set us back’ excuse for not taking a chance on one.
how were we set back?

[papillon]

I would say that the Steelers were losers on both ends of the deal by drafting Pickett. They missed out on the opportunity of drafting a player that could contribute (3 pro-bowl players selected after Pickett in R1) and they had to deal with the fact that they weren't getting the expected production from Pickett, so much so that they traded him. The Chiefs drafted 2 guys in round 1 (not pro-bowl players) that are starters for their defense in the same draft as Pickett. The Steelers lost "opportunity" and didn't make the team better, sort of a double whammy.

Pappy

["BuzzNuter"]

The only thing that drafting Pickett in the 1st round did was, it wasted that 1st rd pick in 2022. We kept him for 2 years and maybe missed on picking a QB in 2023. It isn't like we haven't missed on 1st round picks. Our worst pick that set us back was Bush. We gave up our 2nd and 3rd the next year to get him.

Giving up 1st round picks to move up is what sets you back. If we do that to move up and draft a QB and then he's a bust, that would set us back. We won't do that, hopefully. Our defensive Braintrust missed on Bush, who do we have that can judge QB talent? There must be statistics that give odds on QBS taken in the 1st and subsequent success. I would guess that the odds of success of 1st round QBS is probably the lowest.

Remember the Rooney's are racetrack people and I'm sure they consider the odds when making decisions. We aren't moving up to take a QB especially after wasting the Pickett pick. I have an alternate theory about the Pickett pick but it is simply my theory and no longer relevant to the discussion.

[whatever]

I would say that the Steelers were losers on both ends of the deal by drafting Pickett. They missed out on the opportunity of drafting a player that could contribute (3 pro-bowl players selected after Pickett in R1) and they had to deal with the fact that they weren't getting the expected production from Pickett, so much so that they traded him. The Chiefs drafted 2 guys in round 1 (not pro-bowl players) that are starters for their defense in the same draft as Pickett. The Steelers lost "opportunity" and didn't make the team better, sort of a double whammy.

Pappy

Big picture is the overall record didn’t change. We didn’t go into a multi year downhill spiral(like many say we will).
hindsight is always 20/20. You can go back and find great players that we passed on every draft, not just after missing on a qb.
steelers frequently don’t get expected production from drafted players but rarely do the give up on them so early.
same can be said about FA. Plenty of talent we don’t even try to get.
chiefs are just a much better organization than our also.

[WindyCitySteel]

The Minkah trade is what set us back. See what Rudolph has, if he fails there are plenty of QBs in the draft in 2020.

[whatever]

The Minkah trade is what set us back. See what Rudolph has, if he fails there are plenty of QBs in the draft in 2020.

Great point.

[papillon]

Big picture is the overall record didn’t change. We didn’t go into a multi year downhill spiral(like many say we will).
hindsight is always 20/20. You can go back and find great players that we passed on every draft, not just after missing on a qb.
steelers frequently don’t get expected production from drafted players but rarely do the give up on them so early.
same can be said about FA. Plenty of talent we don’t even try to get.
chiefs are just a much better organization than our also.

I would say that the Steelers are in a 3 year downward spiral of getting their a$$es kicked in the playoffs. Maybe a few better players elsewhere and a steady but not great quarterback gets a "W" in one of the games or at least be competitive. I know the whole 7 years w/o a playoff win thing and Pickett wasn't part of the 1st 4 years. I'm not saying drafting Pickett was an egregious error. However, I feel like he was drafted because the Steelers didn't want to miss on a "Dan Marino" situation again. It was obvious that Pickett was not Marino for crying out loud. I 100% believe Pickett would have been there in 3rd round. Just my opinion.

Pappy

[Joel Buchsbaum]

I would say that the Steelers were losers on both ends of the deal by drafting Pickett. They missed out on the opportunity of drafting a player that could contribute (3 pro-bowl players selected after Pickett in R1) and they had to deal with the fact that they weren't getting the expected production from Pickett, so much so that they traded him. The Chiefs drafted 2 guys in round 1 (not pro-bowl players) that are starters for their defense in the same draft as Pickett. The Steelers lost "opportunity" and didn't make the team better, sort of a double whammy.

Pappy

We screwed the pooch with the Pickett selection. Way to waste your first round pick for only two years of bad service. Some of us smelled the stench very early. For me that was draft day.


The lack or arm on film, the tiny hands, the low IQ, and he really was not that accurate. A one year wonder in college.

-JB

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Pickett became Fields…. So, basically it didn’t.

Poor drafting in the trenches set the team back… And they're fixing that.

Some of us wanted Creed Humphrey… Some of us wanted Landon Dickerson… Both are playing next weekend.

Many of us expected Quinn Meinerz instead of Kendrick Green… Another miss that would have completely changed perspective on that draft.

One thing I see them doing completely right is fixing that. If you want your team to be like the Eagles, you have to have hogs like the Eagles to dominate the LOS.

I wouldn't be surprised if they take 2 D-lineman in the first 4 rounds

[whatever]

Pickett became Fields…. So, basically it didn’t.

Poor drafting in the trenches set the team back… And they're fixing that.

Some of us wanted Creed Humphrey… Some of us wanted Landon Dickerson… Both are playing next weekend.

Many of us expected Quinn Meinerz instead of Kendrick Green… Another miss that would have completely changed perspective on that draft.

One thing I see them doing completely right is fixing that. If you want your team to be like the Eagles, you have to have hogs like the Eagles to dominate the LOS.

I wouldn't be surprised if they take 2 D-lineman in the first 4 rounds

I don’t think that’s what they are trying to be.
even if they fix the lines, they still are lacking a qb, rb, wr, OC, HC and owner with an offensive philosophy.

[NorthCoast]

Just gotta live and learn from the decision.....

Kenny Pickett Tagged with Undesirable Label By ESPN Analyst
Story by Brendan Howe, Steelers Now • 16m • 2 min readKenny Pickett was an iffy first-round draft choice at the time.

Compared to some of his peers, ESPN’s Matt Miller sees the former Pitt quarterback as an indictment on the Pittsburgh Steelers’ NFL Draft decisions.

Miller ranked each of the 19 passers taken in the first round since 2020. He also included Colorado’s Shedeur Sanders and Miami’s Cam Ward, who will likely go as high this April. Pickett was at the foot of that list, which was put together using a poll of scouts, decision-makers, and analysts. The only criteria used were pre-draft grades.

“The opinions on Pickett were mixed when asking evaluators to grade his game,” Miller wrote Saturday. “He ended up being the only quarterback taken in the first round of a weak 2022 class, and the only one drafted in the first 73 picks (the best 2022 QB, Purdy, was selected with the final pick of the draft). Pickett threw 42 touchdown passes during his final season at Pitt, but he also lacked arm strength.

“He completed only 63% of his throws and threw nine interceptions over 13 games as a rookie. Pickett wasn’t able to establish himself as the long-term answer in Pittsburgh, losing his starting job in 2023 before getting traded to the Eagles in 2024.”

Revisiting why the Steelers took Kenny Pickett
As Miller mentioned, Kenny Pickett’s class of signal-callers was noticeably lacking. The Steelers selected Pickett at No. 20 overall, and the next quarterback was taken in the third round. Outgoing general manager Kevin Colbert wanted an immediate replacement for the recently retired Ben Roethlisberger.

“I think that obviously it’s disappointing that Kenny didn’t work out to be our long-term quarterback here,” Steelers president Art Rooney II said in January. “I’m not sure there’s a lot to be learned from that. We just have to look at the next opportunity and make sure we do a good job evaluating it.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/kenny-pickett-tagged-with-undesirable-label-by-espn-analyst/ar-AA1A5UMT?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=b742d2f188a1457ad3949acab3cd6d47&ei=10

["BuzzNuter"]

When you examine this pick in the context of the Steelers situation and history you can understand the reason we picked him. At least I do.

He was in our house for what 3 years. We knew him. All Pitt fans and Alumni will admit he was a hero his last year. This was a unique situation in football. What other team has a college team sharing their facilities? Historically can you remember the 1983 draft. It was just resurrected.

We passed on Dan Marino, the biggest draft mistake in Steeler history. I said when we drafted Kenny that Art II had to do so. He couldn't risk another f UP even how slim the odds of Kenny's success were. Think about it, what is a waste of a 1st round bust in a 90 year run when you cover your family's a**.

[whatever]

Steelers need to draft a qb in the first round this year

[WindyCitySteel]

Steelers need to draft a qb in the first round this year

That means trade up for one of the top two or likely reach at 1.21. I’d consider trading down, grab one in the 2nd.

[hawaiiansteel]

That means trade up for one of the top two or likely reach at 1.21. I’d consider trading down, grab one in the 2nd.

Exactly.

Pick up another 2nd and/or 3rd round draft pick instead of just foolishly selecting a guy like Kenny Pickett who should never have been taken in the first round.