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  • NorthCoast
    Legend
    • Sep 2008
    • 25853

    "Nothing To Be Learned" From KP Pick

    Welp, if there is nothing to be learned, then I guess history could very well repeat itself. Arggghh.....

    Pittsburgh Steelers president Art Rooney II doesn't think there's anything to learn from the draft miss of quarterback Kenny Pickett.


    Rooney: Nothing for Steelers to Learn from Kenny Pickett Draft Miss

    Alan Saunders
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    Updated: Jan 27, 2025
    Steelers Eagles Kenny Pickett
    Former Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Kenny Pickett with the Philadelphia Eagles on Dec. 15, 2024. -- Ed Thompson / Steelers Now
    The Pittsburgh Steelers are getting ready for the 2025 NFL Draft, where they might once again be interested in the quarterback position, after a swing and a miss on Kenny Pickett in the first round of the 2022 NFL Draft. But president Art Rooney II says the organization doesn’t have anything to learn from its last go-around at drafting a quarterback.

    Pickett is headed to the Super Bowl as the backup quarterback of the Philadelphia Eagles. The Steelers traded him there in March, following Pickett’s request, which came after the Steelers signed Russell Wilson.

    The Steelers had high hopes for Pickett when they kept the Pitt product on the South Side with their first first-round selection used on a quarterback since Ben Roethlisberger.

    Pickett showed some promise as a rookie in 2022, but failed to take a step forward in 2023. After a late-season ankle injury, he lost his job to veteran backup quarterback Mason Rudolph, and seemed to lose the faith of the leaders of the team’s locker room, as well, as veteran defenders Cam Heyward, T.J. Watt and Minkah Fitzpatrick were part of the collective that set out to recruit Wilson to the Steelers once he hit free agency.

    Pickett’s failure to grow on the field combined with the team’s continued reliance on failed offensive coordinator Matt Canada. Pickett got just one game without Canada as his playcaller before his injury. Canada still has not found another job since being fired by the Steelers mid-season in 2023.

    In addition to not putting their first-round draft pick in an Xs and Os position to succeed, the Steelers seem to have mis-read Pickett’s personality, as well. The quarterback ruffled feathers when he refused to dress as an emergency backup at Seattle toward the end of the 2023 season — something both Wilson and Justin Fields did at times in 2024.

    That personality fit came despite Pickett playing his college career in the same facility as the Steelers at Pitt. If anyone should have been able to know if he was the proper fit for the Steelers locker room, it was the Pittsburgh front office.

    Despite those dual failures, Rooney said on Monday that he doesn’t think there’s a lesson to be learned from the Steelers draft miss on Pickett.

    “I think that obviously it’s disappointing that Kenny didn’t work out to be our long term quarterback here,” Rooney said. “I’m not sure there’s a lot to be learned from that. We just have to look at the next opportunity and make sure we do a good job evaluating it the next time around.”

    Rooney said the Steelers will likely be looking to the draft at the quarterback again in the 2025 and 2026 NFL Draft classes
  • Northern_Blitz
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 23809

    #2
    I think the thing to learn is that most QBs fail. But you still have to try.

    Same thing we're learning from the Russ / Fields experiment.

    I also think they learned that if you don't love a QB, don't trade up for him. Although I wonder if the second part of that is something like: If you wouldn't trade up a for a QB, maybe don't pick him?

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    • WindyCitySteel
      Legend
      • Nov 2011
      • 15351

      #3
      Was just coming here to post the same thing. Shouldn’t have drafted him, then failed in his development. There’s no way they take a QB in the first again, right?

      Right?

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      • NorthCoast
        Legend
        • Sep 2008
        • 25853

        #4
        More status quo:

        [url=https://flic.kr/p/2qHEGPU][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/2qHEGPU]Screenshot 2025-01-28 072639[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/191750946@N04/]R W[/url], on Flickr

        Sure would like to hear Rooney's thoughts on what exactly is the problem. Apparently, it's not coaching (Tomlin and coordinators returning), it's not the org. Must be the players...obviously.

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        • Eich
          Legend
          • Jul 2010
          • 6896

          #5
          Hopefully they learned that you don't draft a QB in round 1 and pair him with the worst & most unproven coordinator in the league.

          It sure is not a very exciting time to be a Steelers fan. All there is to hope for is some gradual improvement in player selections. Maybe you strike gold and find a way not to get an epic & humiliating beatdown in the wildcard round. And maybe someday, stumble onto a QB that can put the team on his shoulders in the 4th quarter.

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          • whatever
            Legend
            • Sep 2019
            • 5573

            #6
            You guys realize all these coordinators and drafted players have the same non losing seasons as tomlin?
            How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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            • T.Ferguson
              Pro Bowler
              • Sep 2021
              • 2374

              #7
              Does Rooney actually watch the games is my question because it's pretty obvious why. Starts with this man named Matt Canada followed by another man named Mike Tomlin although it wouldn't surprise me if Rooney was behind his hiring in the first place or had some sort of hand in it.

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              • Northern_Blitz
                Legend
                • Dec 2008
                • 23809

                #8
                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                More status quo:

                [url=https://flic.kr/p/2qHEGPU][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/2qHEGPU]Screenshot 2025-01-28 072639[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/191750946@N04/]R W[/url], on Flickr

                Sure would like to hear Rooney's thoughts on what exactly is the problem. Apparently, it's not coaching (Tomlin and coordinators returning), it's not the org. Must be the players...obviously.
                Lack of QB is the biggest problem.

                The rest of the issues (and there's certainly other things we can fix IMO) are 2nd or 3rd order problems.

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                • whatever
                  Legend
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 5573

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Northern_Blitz

                  Lack of QB is the biggest problem.

                  The rest of the issues (and there's certainly other things we can fix IMO) are 2nd or 3rd order problems.
                  Organizational Philosophy is the biggest problem.
                  the rest of the issues don’t matter
                  How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                  • hawaiiansteel
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 34991

                    #10
                    Hopefully we learned that we shouldn't draft Jalen Milroe.

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                    • WindyCitySteel
                      Legend
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 15351

                      #11
                      Originally posted by whatever

                      Organizational Philosophy is the biggest problem.
                      the rest of the issues don’t matter
                      Yup, it’s that philosophy that has them trying all of these QBs in the same offense that avoids intermediate to deep middle and has no imagination.

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                      • whatever
                        Legend
                        • Sep 2019
                        • 5573

                        #12
                        Originally posted by WindyCitySteel

                        Yup, it’s that philosophy that has them trying all of these QBs in the same offense that avoids intermediate to deep middle and has no imagination.
                        indeed.
                        10 years of great drafts haven’t improved this team.
                        How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27077

                          #13
                          could've said they learned to not let Colbert draft anymore but that isn't how we role.
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 34991

                            #14
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            could've said they learned to not let Colbert draft anymore but that isn't how we role.
                            Colbert wouldn't be able to identify a good QB prospect if Joe Montana came over and introduced himself.

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                            • Northern_Blitz
                              Legend
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 23809

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              Hopefully we learned that we shouldn't draft Jalen Milroe.

                              I don't know how much hand size actually matters.

                              But I generally don't like it when a potentially negative physical metric is outside the distribution of all starters in the NFL.

                              IIRC, Green's arms were shorter than every starting center (maybe even every starting iOL)? Is that the reason he was on the ground all the time? I don't know.

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