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  • NorthCoast
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    • Sep 2008
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    QB Pressures

    Wilson was the 4th most pressured QB in the league. Is this a sign of how bad the OL was?

    [url=https://flic.kr/p/2qFwXys][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/2qFwXys]QB Pressure Rates (1)[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/191750946@N04/]R W[/url], on Flickr

    And before you say he holds the ball too long, NGS says he had the 16th longest average time to throw this season. I take this as meaning the OL was bad.

    Interesting enough though, Fields held the ball the 4th longest in the league but was pressured less than Wilson. Was he simply bailing early?
  • Eich
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    • Jul 2010
    • 6843

    #2
    The O-Line was definitely bad.

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    • Joel Buchsbaum
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      • Jan 2021
      • 7377

      #3
      Wilson's play ticks me off. If his Primay man isn't open he turns in to turtle and gets sacked. Not always his OL's problem.

      He does down easily and has limited pocket mobility.

      I think he plays like and old QB who will be 37 next year.
      Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 01-16-2025, 03:26 PM.
      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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      • Northern_Blitz
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        • Dec 2008
        • 23538

        #4
        I think it's both.

        The OL play was bad.

        And I agree with Joel that Wilson seems lost if his primary is covered. Doesn't seem to go through progressions (I'm assuming we have progressions now that Canada is gone).

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        • Eich
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          • Jul 2010
          • 6843

          #5
          I think Wilson quickly got to the point, where if his primary was covered, he knew pressure was coming before he could really look at 2 & 3. But he did make some dumb decisions at bad times.

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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
            • 26993

            #6
            Wilson played better competition but I also think teams sag a bit against Fields because he is a danger if he breaks the pocket.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • hawaiiansteel
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              • May 2008
              • 34764

              #7
              Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
              Wilson's play ticks me off. If his Primay man isn't open he turns in to turtle and get sacked. Not always his OL's problem.

              He does down easily and has limited pocket mobility.

              I think he plays like and old QB who will be 37 next year.
              I don't think we re-sign Wilson.

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              • Chadman
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                • May 2008
                • 6522

                #8
                Could be that the secondary targets were not very good at getting open...
                The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                Light up the darkness.

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                • NorthCoast
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                  • Sep 2008
                  • 25614

                  #9
                  Sean Payton said last season with Wilson at QB 'was misery'....

                  I don't think Tomlin would label it that way, but I also don't hear him giving Wilson accolades..

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                  • Eich
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                    • Jul 2010
                    • 6843

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NorthCoast
                    Sean Payton said last season with Wilson at QB 'was misery'....

                    I don't think Tomlin would label it that way, but I also don't hear him giving Wilson accolades..
                    Well, he was giving Wilson and himself accolades not long after he made the switch from Fields.

                    "That's why I'm highly-compensated".

                    I feel like Tomlin is mostly a smug prick anymore.

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                    • feltdizz
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                      • May 2008
                      • 26993

                      #11
                      Originally posted by NorthCoast
                      Sean Payton said last season with Wilson at QB 'was misery'....

                      I don't think Tomlin would label it that way, but I also don't hear him giving Wilson accolades..
                      maybe it was misery because Wilson refused to take a pay cut when asked in Denver? lol
                      Steelers 27
                      Rats 16

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                      • whatever
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                        • Sep 2019
                        • 5467

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel

                        I don't think we re-sign Wilson.
                        I think him and tomlin are buddies. I think tomlin knows Wilson is his best shot at .500 and will push to get him signed
                        How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                        • whatever
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                          • Sep 2019
                          • 5467

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Eich

                          Well, he was giving Wilson and himself accolades not long after he made the switch from Fields.

                          "That's why I'm highly-compensated".

                          I feel like Tomlin is mostly a smug prick anymore.
                          Tomlin always has been but is getting worse.
                          How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                          • NorthCoast
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                            • Sep 2008
                            • 25614

                            #14
                            Originally posted by feltdizz

                            maybe it was misery because Wilson refused to take a pay cut when asked in Denver? lol
                            yea, that one probably stuck in Payton's craw.... LOL... ('I'm paying this guy how much??')

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                            • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                              • May 2008
                              • 9915

                              #15
                              Originally posted by NorthCoast
                              Sean Payton said last season with Wilson at QB 'was misery'....

                              I don't think Tomlin would label it that way, but I also don't hear him giving Wilson accolades..
                              Payton started complaining about Wilson before he even arrived at his first training camp. It was clear from the start that he didn't want Wilson. I would not take anything he says about having him as QB too seriously.
                              http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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