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  • Joel Buchsbaum
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    • Jan 2021
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    1st 2025 mock draft, pre combine


    Steeler 2025 mock draft, pre combine. 1-12-25 Things will change as players play in the post season bowl games, work out, and interview. But as of right now here is how I see it. We need some good news.


    Round 1. QB McCord. Threw for an insane 4,479 yards in 13 games. He averaged 367.6 yards a game and threw for 34 TD's. His team averaged 34.1 points a game. And he did it by throwing the ball to average college receivers, with a so-so grond game. Neither the RB or TE were good receivers nor could they hit big plays in the passing dept. It was all his throwing it 7+ yards down the field to WR's.. McCord is not a "check down " type of QB. He has a had a sudden rush to being very good. He last five games were strong, and his release is special. An arm talent.


    Round 2. RB Sampson. A speedy back who must be accounted for every play. He is explosive, very fast, can executive cut back runs and catches the ball well. He can beat the front seven to the corner. DANGEROUS. While not a workhouse type in the NFL he is a good back who can carry the ball 15 times a game. Teams must account for his speed. The type of back that prevents jamming the middle as the safeties better play wide and the linebackers need to watch the outer gap responsibility. A little bit of a reach, just wait until he works out.



    Round 3. WR Lacy. A good receiver who can get open, beat press coverage, and has good hands and runs good routes. A red zone threat. He is ideally suited for the #2 WR role. A smart player. Not a burner there is a lot to like. And we need such a player.


    Round 4 S / nickel defender Styles A big safety ( 6'4" 235 lbs ) capable of covering the TE while adding to the run. He is very deployable in the nickle and dime situations.


    Round 5 RT. Dellinger. A power player, solid in pass protection. A swiss army knife type and battle tested in the SEC. He has many good traits.


    Round 7 FB Bredeson. We need a sub package guy who can lead block well. Very well. As such he is worth a 7th round pick and a welcome addition to our Jumbo package.


    Round 7 S. Sanders Not a workout guy, but a guy who can contribute as a dime defender or a special team ace. Has NFL bloodlines.


    * I will add a wishlist of free agents for CB and offseason moves for the coaches and players at a later date.


    - JB
    Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 01-12-2025, 07:12 AM.
    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***
  • Northern_Blitz
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    • Dec 2008
    • 23538

    #2
    I don't know NCAA players.

    But I would really hope we get some high pedigree DL help.

    Seems like Cam is the only good run defender on the line. And how likely is it that he can stay at this level / remain healthy.

    QB seems like a wasted pick to me.

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    • Joel Buchsbaum
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      • Jan 2021
      • 7377

      #3
      Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
      I don't know NCAA players.

      But I would really hope we get some high pedigree DL help.

      Seems like Cam is the only good run defender on the line. And how likely is it that he can stay at this level / remain healthy.

      QB seems like a wasted pick to me.
      No, you don't. But I have a sense of who will be good in the NFL. You like #'s right? Joe Burrow threw for more yards in 2019, @ LSU and he had great WR's ( Jefferson ). This guy does not . His Running game and OL are medicore. His WR's are medicore. But his passing ability is not. Hmmmm....

      The Steelers need a QB. I will wait until the players work out, and list final mock just before the draft.






      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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      • Iron City Inc.
        Hall of Famer
        • Jun 2013
        • 3142

        #4
        We' should be picking 20 or 21 depending on the results of today.
        Just way to early to speculate on who to take but appreciate Joel's efforts. Needs are plenty. Since DL has been mentioned there appears to be good depth early for DL. Back end of round 1 may be DL heavy. For sure an option for us.
        Some real talent at rb in this draft but with backs being devalued a bit I would not select a back early.
        Still have faith in Khan and we'll need his crew to deliver big time come April.

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        • Blitzer
          Pro Bowler
          • Nov 2022
          • 1069

          #5
          Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
          Steeler 2025 mock draft, pre combine. 1-12-25 Things will change as players play in the post season bowl games, work out, and interview. But as of right now here is how I see it. We need some good news.


          Round 1. QB McCord. Threw for an insane 4,479 yards in 13 games. He averaged 367.6 yards a game and threw for 34 TD's. His team averaged 34.1 points a game. And he did it by throwing the ball to average college receivers, with a so-so grond game. Neither the RB or TE were good receivers nor could they hit big plays in the passing dept. It was all his throwing it 7+ yards down the field to WR's.. McCord is not a "check down " type of QB. He has a had a sudden rush to being very good. He last five games were strong, and his release is special. An arm talent.


          Round 2. RB Sampson. A speedy back who must be accounted for every play. He is explosive, very fast, can executive cut back runs and catches the ball well. He can beat the front seven to the corner. DANGEROUS. While not a workhouse type in the NFL he is a good back who can carry the ball 15 times a game. Teams must account for his speed. The type of back that prevents jamming the middle as the safeties better play wide and the linebackers need to watch the outer gap responsibility. A little bit of a reach, just wait until he works out.



          Round 3. WR Lacy. A good receiver who can get open, beat press coverage, and has good hands and runs good routes. A red zone threat. He is ideally suited for the #2 WR role. A smart player. Not a burner there is a lot to like. And we need such a player.


          Round 4 S / nickel defender Styles A big safety ( 6'4" 235 lbs ) capable of covering the TE while adding to the run. He is very deployable in the nickle and dime situations.


          Round 5 RT. Dellinger. A power player, solid in pass protection. A swiss army knife type and battle tested in the SEC. He has many good traits.


          Round 7 FB Bredeson. We need a sub package guy who can lead block well. Very well. As such he is worth a 7th round pick and a welcome addition to our Jumbo package.


          Round 7 S. Sanders Not a workout guy, but a guy who can contribute as a dime defender or a special team ace. Has NFL bloodlines.


          * I will add a wishlist of free agents for CB and offseason moves for the coaches and players at a later date.


          - JB
          nice draft. but need DL somewhere early

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          • hawaiiansteel
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            • May 2008
            • 34764

            #6
            Originally posted by Blitzer

            nice draft. but need DL somewhere early
            Agreed.

            The Ravens just ran for 299 yards against us last night.

            This mock draft is ignoring one of our biggest needs on the DL with Cam Heyward going to be yet another year older next season.

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            • Northern_Blitz
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              • Dec 2008
              • 23538

              #7
              Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum

              No, you don't. But I have a sense of who will be good in the NFL. You like #'s right? Joe Burrow threw for more yards in 2019, @ LSU and he had great WR's ( Jefferson ). This guy does not . His Running game and OL are medicore. His WR's are medicore. But his passing ability is not. Hmmmm....

              The Steelers need a QB. I will wait until the players work out, and list final mock just before the draft.





              Didn't Tee Martin throw for more yards than Peyton Manning or something?

              I don't think college QB stats mean anything. I don't think anyone knows how to scout QBs for the NFL. Not sure it's even possible.

              Edited to add. Here are the top 10 QB seasons by yards per wikipedia
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_D...assing_leaders
              1. Bailey Zappe (5967)
              2. BJ Symons (5833)
              3. Graham Harrell (5705)
              4. Case Keenum (5671)
              5. Joe Burrow (5671)
              6. Case Keenum (5631)
              7. Anthony Gordon (5579)
              8. Colt Brennan (5549)
              9. Ty Detmer (518
              10. David Klinger (5140)
              Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 01-12-2025, 02:30 PM.

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              • Joel Buchsbaum
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                • Jan 2021
                • 7377

                #8
                Originally posted by Northern_Blitz

                Didn't Tee Martin throw for more yards than Peyton Manning or something?

                I don't think college QB stats mean anything. I don't think anyone knows how to scout QBs for the NFL. Not sure it's even possible.

                Edited to add. Here are the top 10 QB seasons by yards per wikipedia
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_D...assing_leaders
                1. Bailey Zappe (5967)
                2. BJ Symons (5833)
                3. Graham Harrell (5705)
                4. Case Keenum (5671)
                5. Joe Burrow (5671)
                6. Case Keenum (5631)
                7. Anthony Gordon (5579)
                8. Colt Brennan (5549)
                9. Ty Detmer (518
                10. David Klinger (5140)


                The games played can vary in a college season. Most of those guys were dink and dunk QB's. McCord is a down the field thrower with a high Yards per attempt.
                Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                • Flasteel
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 3887

                  #9
                  I don't want to pretend I know a lot about college players - particularly before digesting an ounce of pre-draft information. But McCord is a guy who seems to be barely cracking the top 10 in nearly all of the sites I've visited. Why in the world would you want to pick a QB in the first round who is being projected as a 4th rounder? Perhaps he'll rise on boards throughout the process, but it seems highly unlikely he'll rise that much.

                  This looks like an extremely weak QB class to me. Not a good year for a team to be looking for their franchise guy. I don't see a rookie or free agent target that represents an upgrade over Wilson and Fields.
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                  • hawaiiansteel
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                    • May 2008
                    • 34764

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Flasteel
                    I don't want to pretend I know a lot about college players - particularly before digesting an ounce of pre-draft information. But McCord is a guy who seems to be barely cracking the top 10 in nearly all of the sites I've visited. Why in the world would you want to pick a QB in the first round who is being projected as a 4th rounder? Perhaps he'll rise on boards throughout the process, but it seems highly unlikely he'll rise that much.

                    This looks like an extremely weak QB class to me. Not a good year for a team to be looking for their franchise guy. I don't see a rookie or free agent target that represents an upgrade over Wilson and Fields.
                    My sentiments exactly.

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                    • Sword
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 2043

                      #11
                      we should not be picking a QB in the first 3 rounds this coming draft…way to many other important needs!

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                      • Joel Buchsbaum
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                        • Jan 2021
                        • 7377

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Flasteel
                        I don't want to pretend I know a lot about college players - particularly before digesting an ounce of pre-draft information. But McCord is a guy who seems to be barely cracking the top 10 in nearly all of the sites I've visited. Why in the world would you want to pick a QB in the first round who is being projected as a 4th rounder? Perhaps he'll rise on boards throughout the process, but it seems highly unlikely he'll rise that much.

                        This looks like an extremely weak QB class to me. Not a good year for a team to be looking for their franchise guy. I don't see a rookie or free agent target that represents an upgrade over Wilson and Fields.

                        No, you don't and most of those websites are slow to get the real news. I see McCord is rising to #5 QB and climbing on in my opinion the best football draft site out there. The writers and scouts at NFL buzz are excellent. Personally I see him as #2 or #3 as of 1-13-25


                        Quarterback s prospect rankings for the 2025 NFL Draft. Breakdowns of the best Quarterback prospects and averages of other scouting reports.
                        Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                        Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                        *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                        • fordfixer
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                          • May 2008
                          • 10850

                          #13
                          How would any of these picks help us maintain the standard of a non-losing season and a one and done in the playoffs? The standard is the standard after all

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                          • Buzz
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                            • Dec 2017
                            • 8190

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                            I don't know NCAA players.

                            But I would really hope we get some high pedigree DL help.

                            Seems like Cam is the only good run defender on the line. And how likely is it that he can stay at this level / remain healthy.
                            I'm with you on this. We obviously need players for our offense, but we also need some DL talent. Loudermilk and Leal never really panned out. We can't afford to miss on this need again.

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                            • Flasteel
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 3887

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum


                              No, you don't and most of those websites are slow to get the real news. I see McCord is rising to #5 QB and climbing on in my opinion the best football draft site out there. The writers and scouts at NFL buzz are excellent. Personally I see him as #2 or #3 as of 1-13-25


                              https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/positions/QB/1/2025
                              Yes, and you deserve your own college scouting network, of course. The best football draft site out there in your opinion has him rated as a 4th rounder. You are advocating we spend our top pick on him. Do the math.
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