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  • NorthCoast
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    • Sep 2008
    • 25596

    Nobody Celebrating Harris??

    4th straight 1000 yard season...

    And Aikman with the slam dunk.... ouch:

  • Mr.wizard
    Legend
    • May 2014
    • 6617

    #2
    Ya he throws shade at running backs today but guys like Emmit Smith played 16,17 game seasons, even though they played one or two less games they still carried the ball more than your average back today.

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    • hackjam
      Starter
      • Sep 2021
      • 861

      #3
      Originally posted by Mr.wizard
      Ya he throws shade at running backs today but guys like Emmit Smith played 16,17 game seasons, even though they played one or two less games they still carried the ball more than your average back today.
      It's also only a 3.7 yard/game difference. 1000/16 = 62.5. 1000/17 = 58.8. Now in the 12 game season... 83.3 ypg. That's a significant difference. But Troy and his boys weren't playing back then either...

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 26988

        #4
        Aikmen is lucky to be in the HOF with those pedestrian ass stats.
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • WindyCitySteel
          Legend
          • Nov 2011
          • 15025

          #5
          Originally posted by Mr.wizard
          Ya he throws shade at running backs today but guys like Emmit Smith played 16,17 game seasons, even though they played one or two less games they still carried the ball more than your average back today.
          16, not 17 for Emmitt, and he was going for 1500-1800 in his prime.

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          • NorthCoast
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            • Sep 2008
            • 25596

            #6
            Aikman is right. 16 RBs gained 1,000 or more yards rushing this season.
            Defenses are focused on stopping the pass. There are far fewer Casey Hamptons out there stuffing the run like 20 years ago. In fact, just 10 years ago there were only seven 1,000 yd rushers.

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 26988

              #7
              Originally posted by NorthCoast
              Aikman is right. 16 RBs gained 1,000 or more yards rushing this season.
              Defenses are focused on stopping the pass. There are far fewer Casey Hamptons out there stuffing the run like 20 years ago. In fact, just 10 years ago there were only seven 1,000 yd rushers.
              Aikmen is wrong. 4 straight 1,000 yard seasons is impressive. Especially when 3 of them were with Matt Canada. I don’t believe any of those other 15 RB’s have done this consecutively for 4 years.


              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • NorthCoast
                Legend
                • Sep 2008
                • 25596

                #8
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                Aikmen is wrong. 4 straight 1,000 yard seasons is impressive. Especially when 3 of them were with Matt Canada. I don’t believe any of those other 15 RB’s have done this consecutively for 4 years.

                When you have over 1000 carries it's less impressive. The only other RB that comes close to that many carries is Henry, and the one season Henry fell just short of 1000 yds he actually averaged over 100 yds per game. The last time Najee did that was... uh, never. Najee is durable. Great.

                Najee is not a RB DCs lose sleep over. Trust me.

                I've said it before, unless you are a RB that can contribute in both rushing and receiving in a big way, you don't get the big contract. If you want a modern offense, you draft a modern RB.

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                • WindyCitySteel
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                  • Nov 2011
                  • 15025

                  #9
                  Najee literally cracked 1000 in the 17th game 2 of 4 years. His 1200 high water mark would be Emmitt’s 10th best season.

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                  • Starlifter
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                    • May 2008
                    • 5012

                    #10
                    He is correct. 1000 yard seasons was a number teams cared about when they played 12 and 14 games a season. it became less relevant when they went to 16 - even more so at 17 games. It's a stat to reflect a RB consistently gaining over 100 yards a game - in other words, being a factor in the outcome that the defense had to account for.

                    I like Najee the person tremendously. But he is NOT a RB other teams have to go out of their way to account for.

                    Barely scraping by 1000 yards over 17 games is not a player having impact these days. It's a player (to his credit) staying healthy. That's about it.
                    2014 MNF EXEC CHAMPION!!!

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 26988

                      #11
                      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                      Najee literally cracked 1000 in the 17th game 2 of 4 years. His 1200 high water mark would be Emmitt’s 10th best season.
                      The difference between the Dallas OL with Emmitt and the Steelers OL with Najee is night and day.

                      Steelers 27
                      Rats 16

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 26988

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Starlifter
                        He is correct. 1000 yard seasons was a number teams cared about when they played 12 and 14 games a season. it became less relevant when they went to 16 - even more so at 17 games. It's a stat to reflect a RB consistently gaining over 100 yards a game - in other words, being a factor in the outcome that the defense had to account for.

                        I like Najee the person tremendously. But he is NOT a RB other teams have to go out of their way to account for.

                        Barely scraping by 1000 yards over 17 games is not a player having impact these days. It's a player (to his credit) staying healthy. That's about it.
                        Aikmen passed for over 20 TD’s once in his career. That is the last dude who should shrug at stats.

                        Again, folks act like we had the hogs in front of Najee. Dude scraped by because half the time he is hit in the backfield or at the LOS.

                        Najee isn’t a scat back, he is a bruiser but our FO refuses to address the real issue which is the OL. Sure, we drafted some guys and hopefully they gel one day but the blocking scheme is wack af.
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 26988

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NorthCoast

                          When you have over 1000 carries it's less impressive. The only other RB that comes close to that many carries is Henry, and the one season Henry fell just short of 1000 yds he actually averaged over 100 yds per game. The last time Najee did that was... uh, never. Najee is durable. Great.

                          Najee is not a RB DCs lose sleep over. Trust me.

                          I've said it before, unless you are a RB that can contribute in both rushing and receiving in a big way, you don't get the big contract. If you want a modern offense, you draft a modern RB.
                          Derrick Henry has 19 receptions for 193 yards this year. You just have to BLOCK for RB’s like Henry and Najee. When Henry gets hit behind the LOS he goes nowhere.

                          Barkley caught 33 balls this year. That isn’t a lot.

                          I know Najee isn’t on their level but your premise isn’t true in regards to having to run and catch. This is why teams have 3rd down
                          backs. The days of bell cow RB’s who do it all are over.

                          I know its hard but you all fail to
                          admit the obvious. The blocking is terrible and the playcalling is predictable. Everyone knows its run run pass. When Warren and Patterson were put and Najee was in on passing and running plays we saw the impact.

                          How many play action passes did we have with Najee last game? I don’t remember any. Are offense has been far too predictable and unless we have a solid OL running into run blitzes aint the way. Why didn’t Warren get a hard yard last game? Hit behind the LOS.
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • Northern_Blitz
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                            • Dec 2008
                            • 23528

                            #14
                            Originally posted by WindyCitySteel

                            16, not 17 for Emmitt, and he was going for 1500-1800 in his prime.
                            This.

                            If you're healthy and play all the games, 1,000 means that you're around average.

                            Harris is both very healthy and around average.

                            It is an accomplishment to do it so many years in a row. But it's about him being very durable. Not about him being especially good (note: he isn't bad, just somewhere around average).

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                            • hackjam
                              Starter
                              • Sep 2021
                              • 861

                              #15
                              Originally posted by feltdizz

                              Derrick Henry has 19 receptions for 193 yards this year. You just have to BLOCK for RB’s like Henry and Najee. When Henry gets hit behind the LOS he goes nowhere.

                              Barkley caught 33 balls this year. That isn’t a lot.

                              I know Najee isn’t on their level but your premise isn’t true in regards to having to run and catch. This is why teams have 3rd down
                              backs. The days of bell cow RB’s who do it all are over.

                              I know its hard but you all fail to
                              admit the obvious. The blocking is terrible and the playcalling is predictable. Everyone knows its run run pass. When Warren and Patterson were put and Najee was in on passing and running plays we saw the impact.

                              How many play action passes did we have with Najee last game? I don’t remember any. Are offense has been far too predictable and unless we have a solid OL running into run blitzes aint the way. Why didn’t Warren get a hard yard last game? Hit behind the LOS.
                              Najee's biggest problem is his vision IMO. He's not Trent Richardson bad but he's certainly not Le'veon Bell either. Bad blocking in front of him, yes. Predictable offense, yes. But we see the dude miss the play several times a game.

                              When everything plays out exactly the way it's supposed to in the playbook, Najee looks all world. When it doesn't, he looks super average.

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