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PFT on NBCSN: Greg Schiano, Bucs/Steelers camp updates

The Buccaneers have no shortage of storylines heading into the 2013 season. There’s cornerback Darrelle Revis‘ arrival, quarterback Josh Freeman’s impending free agency and the quest to turn defensive end Da’Quan Bowers into an every-down player, for starters, and that’s plenty to talk about when we check in with the B...

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Former Steeler Greg Lloyd Has Strong Feelings About Today’s NFL And Players

PITTSBURGH, UNITED STATES: Cleveland Browns quaterback Vinny Testaverde (R) eludes the pass rush from the Pittsburgh Steelers Greg Lloyd, 18 December 1994, during the second half of their NFL game...</p>
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Steelers re-sign long snapper Greg Warren

The Pittsburgh Steelers have re-signed veteran long-snapper Greg Warren to a one-year contract, the team announced today. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.Warren has spent his entire ......

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NFL Films’ Greg Cosell Breaks down Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger


It's been written here the success of Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger often comes due to his ability to extend plays well past their normal point of death and find something off-schedule in which to keep chains moving.

NFL Films' Greg Cosell, one of the best analysts alive, has an excellent piece of analysis on Roethlisberger's overall game that not only refutes some of that theory (warning: he doesn't use the words "offensive" or "line" next to each other at all), he says Roethlisberger has improved greatly as a passer from his Super Bowl-winning second season.

As most things from Cosell, it's well-written and informative. One of my favorite stances he has is on the notion of the "winning" quarterback. Cosell largely feels that trait is arbitrary, citing Patriots QB Tom Brady as an example. Brady is far better a quarterback from 2007 to today, but has no Super Bowl rings. He has three from 2001-2006.

Cosell asks whether Brady is still a "winner." It's a great question, and one I feel should be asked any time the topic comes up. Clearly, he's won before, and judging by his 2007 output - probably the best individual passing season in league history - his team may not have earned the ring, but certainly, he played at a high level.

Cosell isn't comparing Roethlisberger to Brady, but he is saying much of the same thing. The first of Roethlisberger's two Super Bowl championships came amid one of the worst games he's ever played.

The argument could easily be made that it was the worst performance by a winning quarterback in Super Bowl history. That was seen as irrelevant. The Steelers won and Roethlisberger was the quarterback - case closed.

I'd venture a guess most of us are comfortable with the last part of that statement. Not to take anything away from Roethlisberger, but he didn't play well at all in that game, despite playing very well in the three playoff games before it in 2005. He ratcheted things up a notch in 2008 when he played well in all three playoff games, en route to his second championship.

All the while, we're praising Roethlisberger for those off-schedule plays, for "making something happen" when he's out there. Cosell doesn't quite see it that way.

The best way to portray Roethlisberger at that point in his career (2009) was this: When his pre-snap read was correct, he was outstanding, delivering with rhythm, timing and accuracy. When the picture was a little cloudy and muddied, his predisposition was to rely on his instincts. Roethlisberger was more of a reactionary quarterback, responding to (and countering) the defense after the snap with his strength, exceptional movement ability and extraordinary downfield vision on the run.

Gradually over time, Roethlisberger has gotten better and better. He's more aware before the snap of the ball, and he's more disciplined in the pocket. While he still has the ability to impress with his idiosyncratic combination of physicality and movement, his game is now less arbitrary, less random, more structured, and therefore more consistent. This is rarely acknowledged, however, because there has been no clear quantifiable means by which to measure the progress. The Steelers still win and Roethlisberger still makes plays. As I said earlier, case closed. End of discussion.

That misses the point entirely. One part of Roethlisberger's improvement for which he does not get enough credit is his ability to make throws consistently from the pocket. It sounds strange to say that, because that's the essence of NFL quarterbacking: delivering from the pocket. Yet the continued emphasis on his distinctive style has led many to disregard his pocket passing.

Color me guilty. For my useless part, I was not out-and-out impressed with Roethlisberger's throws from the pocket last season, and I've questioned not just his arm strength, but his arm health. Cosell sees it a little differently, though.

I charted all 60 of Roethlisberger's pass plays of 20 yards or more in 2011. Only five of them came outside the pocket. Time and again, Roethlisberger exhibited one of the most essential attributes necessary to play at a consistently high level: the ability to stand in the pocket in the face of pressure and deliver the ball with accuracy. That's an element of his play that often gets overlooked. It shouldn't.

Roethlisberger has a natural ability to throw with just the right amount of touch. Does he have a strong arm? Yes. But I would contend that he is more of a finesse passer with power than a pure arm-strength passer. The difference may be subtle, but it's significant. It's one reason he has the ability to throw from different platforms, without his feet always being set and on balance. Overall, few quarterbacks in the NFL have Roethlisberger's throwing skill set.

He definitely shines a different light on the Steelers' franchise passer. With his point of view in mind, it's interesting to think about the direction of Roethlisberger's career, and how, perhaps, his maturity as a player is melding with the best protection he's had since that first Super Bowl championship year, and wonder how far away he is from the gaudy numbers being produced by some of this quarterback brethren.

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Greg Cosell Says Play Of Ben Roethlisberger Has Become More Structured & Less Random

The great film guru Greg Cosell posted on Tuesday about Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and the changes he has seen in his game from 2007 to last season.

Cosell notes first the escapability of Roethlisberger, which he has become so well known for over the years. Cosell describes the Steelers signal caller as "just plain ol’ country strong" and I think any Steeler fan can relate very well to that description.

Cosell goes on to say that during his film study of Roethlisberger in January of 2009, which encompassed all of his throws from the 2007 and 2008 seasons, that he Read more [...]

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Steelers and Bengals Drafts Discussed on Yahoo Sports’ Shutdown Corner Podcast with Doug Farrar and Greg Cosell


Yahoo Shutdown Corner editor Doug Farrar had draft guru Greg Cosell on his podcast Thursday, talking about the early projections of the 2012 draft classes of the AFC North.

They both rightfully lavished heavy praise on the draft class of the Cincinnati Bengals, both this year and last year. The Bengals' trade-down move behind Pittsburgh to select Wisconsin OG Kevin Zeitler while the Steelers selected Stanford OG David DeCastro, a move that could end up being one of the better debates in football; who would you rather have? The mauler (Zeitler) or the technician (DeCastro)?

Cosell on A.J. Green: 'I think he's well on his way to being a top 5 receiver in this league. He seems like a much smoother and quicker athlete than someone who's 6-foot-4.'

Cosell on the Bengals CB Dre Kirkpatrick: "He did not consistently play to his physical attributes, but his physical skill set is definitely there. I've heard people talk about transitioning him to safety, I don't know why they'd want to do that."

(NOTE: Kirkpatrick recently signed a four-year contract with Cincinnati)

"I really like Mike Zimmer as a defensive coach. I think a number of these (younger) guys will get a chance to contribute."

This is the part that scares me about Cincinnati. They have drafted very well, and even better for them, they've taken guys who can play right away. Is Kirkpatrick very dissimilar to Browns CB Joe Haden? Both of them will be outstanding cornerbacks in the league

Cosell on the future argument of Zeitler vs. DeCastro: "I'm in the minority here, but personally, I thought Zeitler was a little bit more complete than DeCastro. I think Zeitler is a better athlete than DeCastro is. I thought he had more scheme versatility. I thought Zeitler fits great in a zone scheme, and I'm not sure DeCastro does. Given what the Bengals want their guards to do, I think Zeitler is the better choice, and I think he would have been the better choice if both would have been available."

It's worth noting Farrar notes his "man crush" with DeCastro. He also noted he didn't see a great level of strength with DeCastro in comparison to Zeitler.

Steel City Insider publisher Jim Wexell has also noted Zeitler's strength and power as well. DeCastro is more of a technician, and the highest and best use for each of them is a dime vs. 10 cents. If Zeitler bludgeons people and DeCastro simply outplays people, they're both likely to get the job done the vast majority of the time.

Cosell on Steelers RB Chris Rainey: "I love this pick for them. It's funny how things change in given years, and where people get drafted -- I like Rainey more than Dexter McCluster, and McCluster was a second-round pick of the Chiefs [in the 2910 NFL draft]. The reason he's a fifth-round pick? He is what he is. He's not a feature back, but you design 12 to 15 plays [around him], whatever you choose -- but this guy can score from anywhere on the field."

Well put, if you're a supporter of Rainey. He's not going to be a feature back (probably), but is Darren Sproles a feature back? He's a highly effective player, and that's certainly a high ceiling to expect from the rookie, but drawing up a certain amount of plays designed to get Rainey the ball in space is a smart idea. The amount of touches he'll get - something we've discussed on BTSC a few times - remains to be seen, but plain and simple, speed kills.

Source: Behind the Steel Curtain

Former Steelers LB Greg Lloyd Sounds Off On Direction of Offensive NFL


Many Steelers fans have been waiting for former LB Greg Lloyd to weigh in on the NFL's current direction of offensive emphasis and general "safety" initiatives.

The wait is over.

Lloyd, speaking to WXIX-TV in Cincinnati while at Bengals coach Marvin Lewis's charity golf tournament (Lewis was Lloyd's position coach in Pittsburgh), minced no words over the matter, which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who remembers Lloyd from his "I Wasn't Hired For My Disposition" t-shirts.

He played up the recent scoring increases the NFL has seen in comments about the state of the league.

I don't want to see a game where the damn score is 75 to one or 75 to two, all this passing and passing. I want to see somebody hit a quarterback, ... that is what people come to see. And at the end of the day if he gets hurt, so be it.

It's unclear whether NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell will seek to fine Lloyd for his comments, but no doubt, someone's going to try to reach out to Lloyd, typically media-reclusive, to ask him about bounties. No mention of that question is in the report.

What is, though, is Lloyd's typical bravado and wit, calling out Goodell for what he feels is a watering down of the game he played at a high level throughout the 1990s, as well as a lack of effort, in his eyes, to have protected players during his time.

This is not PBS, it's not the public channel that you go watch. It's the National Football League, it's a violent freaking game. The point of it is that if the NFL and the league would get behind and start taking care of their older players and taking care of guys, they wouldn't have these issues. As opposed to saying, 'Hey, go out there, do it hard, then bang we're done with you.'

Source: Behind the Steel Curtain

Greg Lloyd: If QBs get hurt, so be it–but care for them in retirement

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Former Steelers linebacker Greg Lloyd says he’s sick of seeing the way the NFL is changing to a league that makes protecting the quarterback paramount. “I don’t want to see a game where the damn score is 75-1 or 75-2, all this passing and passing,” Lloyd said on WXIX-TV in Cincinnati, via NFL.com. “I want…

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