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  • lloydroid
    Pro Bowler
    • Aug 2012
    • 2026

    What a loss could accomplish.

    Don't get me wrong, I will be rooting for the Steelers in this game. I can't help it. Now, that being said, I won't get upset or scream no matter what happens, because I realize the bigger picture here. But here is what a loss would accomplish.

    1. Higher draft pick. Don't think a few picks here or there matters? Take a look at the draft and pay attention to what the 10 or 11 pick compares to the late teen picks.

    [url]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2012/draft.htm[/url]

    [url]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2011/draft.htm[/url]

    It could be the difference between landing a JJ Watt instead of a Adrian Clayborn.

    [url]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2010/draft.htm[/url]

    It can make a huge difference. This game is meaningless. So the higher pick could be the difference between us getting a probowler vs. just a guy.

    2. A loss will shake this team to the core. I want them woke up. I want Tomlin to feel heat to get his act together. I now hate seeing him on the sidelines winding up his head set or whatever. The cool act is old and stale. The team sucks in the focus and discipline dept. and that is his job. If he loses this game, he is going to feel the heat from all directions, like when he is out to dinner or grocery store. He is going to get some fire from the Rooneys and he needs it. He clownish, fumbling, bumbling ways need to change. He needs a wake up call.

    3. A loss might just make Ben take this more seriously. He is still just a big kid. He is careless. He single-handily lost us key games that kept us out of the play offs - Cinci game, Dallas game, both games were lost because that moron was playing all foot loose and fancy free, throwing pics that lost the game.

    "Hey I'm big Toms' son, I screw things up, but it's ok...".

    Nothing impacts him. No worries. No accountability. And I, and most of the team, is just sick of it.

    4. The loss will reinforce that they need to find a way to get the rushing game going. They have been FAIL. They suck at rushing the ball. It's time to take it seriously.

    5. A loss will make them purge the team more and they need it. It is obvious that they have some poor characters players on this roster, and, even though I believe they will already be cleaning house, a loss to the Browns will make them clean deeper. And they need to.
  • BigRob
    Pro Bowler
    • Jul 2008
    • 1381

    #2
    Originally posted by lloydroid
    Don't get me wrong, I will be rooting for the Steelers in this game. I can't help it. Now, that being said, I won't get upset or scream no matter what happens, because I realize the bigger picture here. But here is what a loss would accomplish.

    1. Higher draft pick. Don't think a few picks here or there matters? Take a look at the draft and pay attention to what the 10 or 11 pick compares to the late teen picks.

    [URL]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2012/draft.htm[/URL]

    [URL]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2011/draft.htm[/URL]

    It could be the difference between landing a JJ Watt instead of a Adrian Clayborn.

    [URL]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2010/draft.htm[/URL]

    It can make a huge difference. This game is meaningless. So the higher pick could be the difference between us getting a probowler vs. just a guy.
    Would you really want a Gilmore, Poe, or Fletcher Cox over David Decastro in 2012? How about Rolando Mclain over Pouncey in 2010. I wouldn't.

    How about one pick after Adrian Clayborn, it was Phil Taylor. We sure could use a dominating tackle like Phil Taylor right now.

    Your point was pretty pointless.
    Last edited by BigRob; 12-28-2012, 04:31 PM.
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    • BigRob
      Pro Bowler
      • Jul 2008
      • 1381

      #3
      Originally posted by lloydroid
      Don't get me wrong, I will be rooting for the Steelers in this game. I can't help it. Now, that being said, I won't get upset or scream no matter what happens, because I realize the bigger picture here. But here is what a loss would accomplish.




      2. A loss will shake this team to the core. I want them woke up. I want Tomlin to feel heat to get his act together. I now hate seeing him on the sidelines winding up his head set or whatever. The cool act is old and stale. The team sucks in the focus and discipline dept. and that is his job. If he loses this game, he is going to feel the heat from all directions, like when he is out to dinner or grocery store. He is going to get some fire from the Rooneys and he needs it. He clownish, fumbling, bumbling ways need to change. He needs a wake up call.
      You don't think missing the playoffs is enough of a wake-up call? Did you not see Polamalu's comments? This point sucks too.
      Here comes the BOOM!
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      • BigRob
        Pro Bowler
        • Jul 2008
        • 1381

        #4
        Originally posted by lloydroid

        3. A loss might just make Ben take this more seriously. He is still just a big kid. He is careless. He single-handily lost us key games that kept us out of the play offs - Cinci game, Dallas game, both games were lost because that moron was playing all foot loose and fancy free, throwing pics that lost the game.

        "Hey I'm big Toms' son, I screw things up, but it's ok...".

        Nothing impacts him. No worries. No accountability. And I, and most of the team, is just sick of it.

        4. The loss will reinforce that they need to find a way to get the rushing game going. They have been FAIL. They suck at rushing the ball. It's time to take it seriously.

        5. A loss will make them purge the team more and they need it. It is obvious that they have some poor characters players on this roster, and, even though I believe they will already be cleaning house, a loss to the Browns will make them clean deeper. And they need to.
        Ben already is pretty damn competitive. Again, you don't think missing the Playoffs pisses Ben off? He wants to win more Super Bowls than Bradshaw. That is his standard of excellence.

        The Rooney's have already stated the running game needs work. I think they will try to fix this again regardless of the Browns game.

        A loss to the Browns is not going to affect how they handle this roster. They are too clear headed to let one game make that difference. Missing the playoffs already accomplished this.

        Great post though.
        Here comes the BOOM!
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        • lloydroid
          Pro Bowler
          • Aug 2012
          • 2026

          #5
          Originally posted by BigRob
          Would you really want a Gilmore, Poe, or Fletcher Cox over David Decastro in 2012? How about Rolando Mclain over Pouncey in 2010. I wouldn't.

          How about one pick after Adrian Clayborn, it was Phil Taylor. We sure could use a dominating tackle like Phil Taylor right now.

          Your point was pretty pointless.
          Anyone can cherry pick, and you only addressed one point while I made several, so, lame, pointless response that is meaningless. Way to go.

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          • RuthlessBurgher
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 33208

            #6
            By my count, BigRob addresses all 5 of your points, not just one.
            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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            • NorthCoast
              Legend
              • Sep 2008
              • 24568

              #7
              let me help you out with this one:

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              • lloydroid
                Pro Bowler
                • Aug 2012
                • 2026

                #8
                Originally posted by BigRob
                Ben already is pretty damn competitive. Again, you don't think missing the Playoffs pisses Ben off? He wants to win more Super Bowls than Bradshaw. That is his standard of excellence.
                Wow. You really don't get it. Talk is cheap. Daunte Culpepper said he wanted to be the best QB to ever play the game, then he quickly got lazy, got fat and got kicked out of the league due to pure laziness. But hey, he _said_ he wanted to be the best ever, so that's all we need to know; he _said_ he wanted to be the best ever. Ben is no different. Big deal, he wants to win 5 rings, and then he goes out and throws game-losing pics, playing with carelessness. But hey, he _said_ he wanted to win 5 rings, so we should ignore that he plays so loosey goosey. Let's not go by what we actually see, in terms of reality; instead, let's go by what Ben says and take that to the bank. MMmm K? That sounds like a super plan. Way to go. Let's base things on what people say. Did Daunte Culpepper become the best QB to ever play the game yet?

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                • BigRob
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1381

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lloydroid
                  Anyone can cherry pick, and you only addressed one point while I made several, so, lame, pointless response that is meaningless. Way to go.
                  Damn, I swear you are two people with one account. Or you have multiple personalities.
                  Here comes the BOOM!
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                  • squidkid
                    Legend
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 5847

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lloydroid
                    Don't get me wrong, I will be rooting for the Steelers in this game. I can't help it. Now, that being said, I won't get upset or scream no matter what happens, because I realize the bigger picture here. But here is what a loss would accomplish.

                    1. Higher draft pick. Don't think a few picks here or there matters? Take a look at the draft and pay attention to what the 10 or 11 pick compares to the late teen picks.

                    [URL]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2012/draft.htm[/URL]

                    [URL]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2011/draft.htm[/URL]

                    It could be the difference between landing a JJ Watt instead of a Adrian Clayborn.

                    [URL]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2010/draft.htm[/URL]

                    It can make a huge difference. This game is meaningless. So the higher pick could be the difference between us getting a probowler vs. just a guy.

                    2. A loss will shake this team to the core. I want them woke up. I want Tomlin to feel heat to get his act together. I now hate seeing him on the sidelines winding up his head set or whatever. The cool act is old and stale. The team sucks in the focus and discipline dept. and that is his job. If he loses this game, he is going to feel the heat from all directions, like when he is out to dinner or grocery store. He is going to get some fire from the Rooneys and he needs it. He clownish, fumbling, bumbling ways need to change. He needs a wake up call.

                    3. A loss might just make Ben take this more seriously. He is still just a big kid. He is careless. He single-handily lost us key games that kept us out of the play offs - Cinci game, Dallas game, both games were lost because that moron was playing all foot loose and fancy free, throwing pics that lost the game.

                    "Hey I'm big Toms' son, I screw things up, but it's ok...".

                    Nothing impacts him. No worries. No accountability. And I, and most of the team, is just sick of it.

                    4. The loss will reinforce that they need to find a way to get the rushing game going. They have been FAIL. They suck at rushing the ball. It's time to take it seriously.

                    5. A loss will make them purge the team more and they need it. It is obvious that they have some poor characters players on this roster, and, even though I believe they will already be cleaning house, a loss to the Browns will make them clean deeper. And they need to.
                    '

                    all great points.
                    steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                    • lloydroid
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 2026

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                      By my count, BigRob addresses all 5 of your points, not just one.
                      In posts after the initial post, and I destroyed his assertions later as well. Be well. Have a nice day.

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                      • BigRob
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1381

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lloydroid
                        Wow. You really don't get it. Talk is cheap. Daunte Culpepper said he wanted to be the best QB to ever play the game, then he quickly got lazy, got fat and got kicked out of the league due to pure laziness. But hey, he _said_ he wanted to be the best ever, so that's all we need to know; he _said_ he wanted to be the best ever. Ben is no different. Big deal, he wants to win 5 rings, and then he goes out and throws game-losing pics, playing with carelessness. But hey, he _said_ he wanted to win 5 rings, so we should ignore that he plays so loosey goosey. Let's not go by what we actually see, in terms of reality; instead, let's go by what Ben says and take that to the bank. MMmm K? That sounds like a super plan. Way to go. Let's base things on what people say. Did Daunte Culpepper become the best QB to ever play the game yet?
                        Ben's a bonehead, but did you really just compare a potential hall-of-famer to Daunte Culpepper? You make my point of your idiocy quite well on your own.
                        Here comes the BOOM!
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                        • BigRob
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 1381

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lloydroid
                          I destroyed his assertions later as well
                          Have fun at school when Christmas break is over.
                          Here comes the BOOM!
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                          • lloydroid
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 2026

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BigRob
                            Damn, I swear you are two people with one account. Or you have multiple personalities.
                            Be specific in your assertions instead of making vague, fuzzy semi-congruent points.

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                            • lloydroid
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 2026

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigRob
                              Have fun at school when Christmas break is over.
                              You are now involved in ad hominem attacks. According to board rules, this is unacceptable.

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